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RE: Having a Slave's Heart - 12/6/2008 7:22:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I had that exact thing happen to me.  Early on in my relationship to my Master I considered myself a sub that basically showed it during sessions and felt more like friends the rest of the time.  When he told me that I had a slave's heart I actually laughed.

Then I started to take a better look at myself.  I am willing to put him first in all things, to have basically no limits, to go through situations that would have horrified or disgusted me just a short time before, to not just accept but embrace that we live under a double standard when it comes to the rules of our roles, and to actually flourish under these circumstances. 

Yes, there are other relationships where I have given more than I have received.  I have sacrificed as a parent, a wife, an employee, a Domme - but never to the extent where I put so much trust into someone and allowed them to use my mind and body at their will.  I could not be a slave to just anyone; it took someone special to bring this out in me.  At this point in my life I feel that I am in the best role for me and am pleased to be living as a slave who loves her Master and would do virtually anything for him.


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RE: Having a Slave's Heart - 12/6/2008 7:26:37 AM   
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RE: Having a Slave's Heart - 12/6/2008 7:38:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SadysticJester

for the sake of arguement,lets say your talking to a sub..a person your trying to get to know and along the way you find that they lean towards slavery-vs-submissive,the more you explore this the more it may become apparent that slavery is what they are meant for..i say meant,,because some people have that desire inside of them and it may take someone special"quote/unquote". to bring this out of them.. it may also lead to misgivings inside of them as well because of the flood of thoughts...people are complex in every sense of the word.by finding the keys to unlock any one person is at best a hit and miss...mostly it has to do with trust,,,trust allows people to let themselves be guided to things they may have bottled up and wouldnt/couldnt bring out before(supposedly).this can go on and on..


Wow. i couldn't have said it better myself. Before i met Master i referred to myself as a sub. I didn't understand why someone would want to be a slave. I mean TPE? 24/7? No safe word? This did not sound like something that i would ever be comfortable with. However the first time i met Master i had to fight the urge not to kneel at his feet. (We didn't even know eachother) As we got to know eachother and he took me as his sub it soon became apparent to both of us that i deeply desired more. I felt an intense longing to be his slave. To be owned by him. No other Dominant has ever brought this out in me. I didn't even think it was possible. So if i have a "slaves heart" then it is only for my Master and i truly believe that i could never surrender on this level to anyone else. But i guess i don't have to worry about that because Master owns me body and mind , and he has no intention of letting me go. Ever.

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RE: Having a Slave's Heart - 12/6/2008 7:59:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think it is a term that helps to romanticize the idea of submission/slavery.  I have no issues with romance, in fact, I love romance.  If you like this term, embrace it and have fun with the romance of it all. 

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RE: Having a Slave's Heart - 12/6/2008 8:18:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Romance - bleck  . I'm more into everyday, reality kinds of things.
You know - washing dirty socks, cooking meals, showing my love and devotion by doing what he wants when he wants, as he wants. i relish his smiles, and his pinches and his coming up behind me and squeezing me. These things make me go gooey!

ooh   ........  gosh, ...... now i am sounding romantic  .....   hell!

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RE: Having a Slave's Heart - 12/6/2008 9:57:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		If someone I wasn't in a relationship with told me this, it would mean he was trying to get laid. It's the kind of thing an inexperienced dominant would say to get some play time, just a line.

The Man hasn't ever used such a line on me. Although he did say I was the first real submissive he'd known as opposed to bondage bottoms simply because I noticed the fact that he only drinks this one brand of mint tea and bought a box of it for his next visit.

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RE: Having a Slave's Heart - 12/6/2008 10:02:38 AM   
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If someone was to tell you that they felt you had "A Slave's Heart"
what that meant to you.

Not a whole hell of a lot.

My slave needs to have a human heart, a woman's body, and a general willingness to say "Yes Sir" when I bellow for coffee, chocolate, or beer. (She can say "Oh God YESSSS!!!!!" when I grunt for sex).


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RE: Having a Slave's Heart - 12/6/2008 10:18:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: califsue
If someone was to tell you that they felt you had "A Slave's Heart"
what that meant to you.


I've been told that, and i took it both as a considerable compliment and an insight. To me, what it meant was that when i love a woman, my love manifests itself as a deep, primal need to be her slave. I take it to mean that when I am in love with a woman, the only way my heart knows how to express that love is to submit to her.

"Mushy?" "Boring?" "Silly?" Yeah, whatever. To each their own, but for some us it's a valid descriptor. If it doesn't connect  with you, don't use it. And for those of you who find it so offensive that all you can think of to do is ridicule those who do find some meaning in it, go fuck yourself. K?






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RE: Having a Slave's Heart - 12/6/2008 10:27:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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ORIGINAL: Surrenderwithin
To me having a slaves heart means my heart misses a beat when my Master is displeased and the slightest way. It means my heart beats faster anytime I feel his gaze on me.... it means he is the very reason I wish for my heart to beat. Having a slave heart means to my service to him is the number one most important thing in my life and my world. He is my meaning, my reason, and why I exist. I believe serving him was my destiny and the very reason I was created. I have the heart of a slave and I believe that my heart would stop beating if I were to ever lose him and leap from my chest should he ever be gone.

And what about someone who feels exactly the same way about their partner?  Or child?  Or slave?

That's the problem- all the experiences you describe are experienced by all orientations.  There's nothing specifically "slavish" about it.

Remember- service does not equal submission.


I certainly see your point. However, I see it a little differently. I believe that there are many different kinds of love. The love you have for a spouse or a child or a friend are all different, but love nonetheless. Just because the love is different doesnt mean it is not as intense as another love. For me, I have never felt this way about anyone other than my Master. The dynamic we have and the experience we have shared over many years has lead me to feel this way. It is a product of what we have created together. Therefore that is what I see as my slaves heart. I acknowledge that people can feel that way about a child ( or any other relationship) however that doesnt apply to me. Perhaps one day, when I have a child, I may change my perspective. Then again, I am not sure that would make me see my slaves heart as different, but I would then be able to understand the love of a mother as well. I dont think that understanding would change my understanding of my slaveheart. I would see them as two seperate things that have the same emotion behind them, but the love itself would be expressed differently. The role of a slave and that of a mother are different and the love is expressed differently, with some commonality, and it all comes from the heart. I believe it more about the way the love is expressed more than the love or the way the emotion makes you feel.

Thank you for your feedback. I always respect your opinion and usually find that I think a great deal like you. I always appreciate a different perspective,
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RE: Having a Slave's Heart - 12/6/2008 10:28:16 AM   
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To me, if I were to say this (or, more accurately, to say "You have a servant's heart") I would mean that the person is clearly someone whose manner of being speaks to that sense of desiring to be, more than anything, the cherished servant... the servant who knows hir keepers well, and whose actions are measured by hir own desire to be that caliber of servant who is proud, dignified, servile, graceful, and profoundly yielding. From me, it would be the greatest of compliments.

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RE: Having a Slave's Heart - 12/6/2008 12:03:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: califsue

I am just curious for those who might want to share what
"Having a Slave's Heart" means to you. Now, I do know that
I may get the standard "It Depends" or "Whatever it means to your Master/Dom".
 
If someone was to tell you that they felt you had "A Slave's Heart"
what that meant to you.


To me, it's an entirely poetic term that conveys a sentiment but is not to be taken literally. Two hearts do not beat as one but it conveys a sentiment and a slave no more has a slave heart than they do a daughter heart, friend heart, lover heart, mother heart, son heart, father heart or any other role that they hold essential to their being.

This is not to say that the term should be abolished - I am a romantic at heart and enjoy poetic terms. However, if someone used it in their profile or e-mails to describe themselves to me I would probably assume that they are taking poetics too seriously.

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 12/6/2008 12:06:24 PM >

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RE: Having a Slave's Heart - 12/6/2008 1:11:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: califsue

I am just curious for those who might want to share what
"Having a Slave's Heart" means to you.

Well, since you asked what it means to me: To me and for me, it means that in my heart i feel that i was put here to serve another as their personal slave.  When i am alone and i close my eyes and see myself, i see a slave and, i am very comfortable and content with that.  To me, it means that i don't have to try to be a slave.  Being a slave is just what i am, at my very core.  To try to be anything else is to deny who i am.

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If someone was to tell you that they felt you had "A Slave's Heart" what that meant to you.

It wouldn't really mean anything to me because i am the only one who really knows what's in my heart.
 
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RE: Having a Slave's Heart - 12/6/2008 1:21:55 PM   
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Saying someone has a "slave heart" to me means that the core (heart, center) of who they are is a slave. This in turn would imply that said person (the one having a slave heart) did not self identify as a slave but their demeanor, actions, behaviors etc identified them as such to others. It is telling someone they truly don't know who they are, that at their core they are a slave. 

It is full of romance and intrigue etc and not based on solid communication and expectations but rather on projection and supposition.   How ever you percieve my submission is your right but don't impose a slave heart onto me. 


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RE: Having a Slave's Heart - 12/6/2008 1:26:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		To this day, I still can't figure out what it means to have a slave's heart. Do I wish to please Sir? Yes! How can you measure a degree of serving someone? How can you link it to submissive heart or a slave heart?

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RE: Having a Slave's Heart - 12/6/2008 5:18:25 PM   
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Perhaps it is just another version of "my girl is a slave, yours is just a submissive"?
 
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RE: Having a Slave's Heart - 12/6/2008 6:23:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Someone did say that to me.  I thought he was delusional.  I felt it was a form of manipulation for him because there is no way I have a slave anything.  Was that supposed to make me feel special and fall in line?  Or did it make him special for seeing it in me?  I thought he was special all right!



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RE: Having a Slave's Heart - 12/6/2008 6:35:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Reading through all responses we should assume that everyone has there own definition of the topic. As individuals we all see the different circumstances from our own point of view and neither one of us can really understand the aspects of the personality that reveals the inside of the soul that the subject here wishes to portrait. Thus we can safely presume that each one of us has his own translation and personal reasons on the matter, if i can make sense or not.....

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RE: Having a Slave's Heart - 12/7/2008 8:19:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		..if someone tells me that, i have a slave's heart, well i would admit that i have a slave's heart. coz its true. i will just keep quiet and understand that what that person says is true. guys or gals who, in their childhood or in their teenage years, went through seriously disturbing experiences, may have a slave's heart. 'a slave's heart' to me does mean of 'timid wimp guy who cannot take decisions about his own life correctly and who does depend on someone or the other at all stages of his life'.

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RE: Having a Slave's Heart - 12/7/2008 8:43:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		If someone I knew only superficially were to tell me I have a "slaves heart" (which btw a few have), I would view it as a line designed to make me feel compliant.  This does not work for me. 
If someone I knew as a friend were to tell me I have a slaves heart I would wonder what sort of favor they needed...
If someone I was fucking told me I have a slaves heart my reaction would depend on when he said it.  During sex? ..HELL YES.  During play?  HELL YES.  In the moment he looks over, says nothing but indicates with his eyes that I should stir his tea, ect.. yes..I would melt and agree. 
But if that same man were to say it in otherways.. like.. you will work on the weekend because yo have a slaves heart.  No freakin way.

Intent, is everything.  Strangers want to flip the cues that they have seen work well on some new subs.  When someone I only know online tells me that, I would hit the X in the corner.
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