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CalifChick -> RE: Nuvaring- does it squick anyone else? (12/7/2008 11:54:34 AM)

I'm not sure what the point of posting a wikipedia article was (there are far more reliable sources of information and nothing in that article contradicted what I said as far as I could see), but as Aqua said, it's not illegal.


Cali




rozenwyn -> RE: Nuvaring- does it squick anyone else? (12/7/2008 12:08:11 PM)

the point behind the article was yes i may have been wrong about it  being illegal, but it also isn't available in the states unless you had the implant prior to the company discontinuing distribution in the states.~shrugs~ 




persephonee -> RE: Nuvaring- does it squick anyone else? (12/7/2008 12:16:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: OneMoreWaste

To my mind, the difference with Norplant and IUDs (do they still make those?) is that they're inserted and removed by doctors, and meant to be left for years on end. So they fall under the category of surgical appliances, like implants, organ transplants, and bionic limbs.

Geez, maybe it *is* just me [:-]


No its not just you...and thats all im going to say publicly.

cryptic on purpose
perse




AquaticSub -> RE: Nuvaring- does it squick anyone else? (12/7/2008 12:26:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rozenwyn

the point behind the article was yes i may have been wrong about it  being illegal, but it also isn't available in the states unless you had the implant prior to the company discontinuing distribution in the states.~shrugs~ 


No one said you could... just that it isn't actually illegal.




slaveluci -> RE: Nuvaring- does it squick anyone else? (12/7/2008 12:29:21 PM)

~FR~
It's definitely not just you or a "guy" thing.  I have always looked at such devices with major skepticism though I know they work for many.  Master and I especially get a laugh out of the synchronized swimming NuevaRing commercial.  It makes it sound sooooooo difficult to pop a tiny pill down the hatch every day.  Yeah, I know that can be so very grueling[8|].  If it's that hard to remember to swallow your meds everyday and take the one second out of your busy life it takes to do it everyday, you really really need to think about NuevaRing 'cuz having an offspring in your life is really gonna tax you[:D]..............luci




kittinSol -> RE: Nuvaring- does it squick anyone else? (12/7/2008 12:32:00 PM)

I got pregnant on it: 'nuff said.




AquaticSub -> RE: Nuvaring- does it squick anyone else? (12/7/2008 12:35:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slaveluci
If it's that hard to remember to swallow your meds everyday and take the one second out of your busy life it takes to do it everyday, you really really need to think about NuevaRing 'cuz having an offspring in your life is really gonna tax you[:D]..............luci


I've actually never been on the pill because I am notriously bad at remembering to take any medication for me. I was on the patch first, then the ring and now a three year implant. I doubt this will have any effect on my mothering skills as I'm quite capable of remembering things for others.

If a woman knows she had difficulty remembering pils (and I have known several who were otherwise quite intelligant capable women) I would think you would hail their efforts at finding a suitable birth control that works for them instead of risking a pregnancy at the wrong time in the life.

I do hate birth control commericals though - in particular I despised the "Let Freedom Ring" control commerical that Nuvaring put out at first but no more than that damn "Have a happy period thing".




penandknife -> RE: Nuvaring- does it squick anyone else? (12/7/2008 1:17:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rozenwyn

ok so the nuvaring doesn't  squick me out... especially as i won't use the pill or the depo shot since those both caused severe weight gain for me, last i knew when i was researching that norplant was illegal in the united states, yes the iud is still made (i have metal allergies) but another one to look into that is IUD like is the mirena does the same thing as the IUD but is made out of plastic instead of copper 


I've had the Mirena for going on six months now.  I started looking into IUDs because I had issues with previous birth control methods (horomone issues, forgetting to take the pill, and a partner who sabotaged it when he wanted another kid and I didn't).  I was origionally going to go with the copper IUD since it's non-horomone, but the nurse at the clinic was very open with me and described how she reacted to the Mirena quite candidly.  My sister has it as well, and she seconded a lot of it.

While the Mirena does have the horomone component, it is low-dose enough that even I don't have much side-effect from it (and I react very nastily to even the lowest doses of the Pill).  A lot of that is apparently due to the fact that the horomones are delivered straight to the uterus, rather than having to go through your entire bloodstream.  Also, because it's plastic, you don't have to worry about metal reactions, either.  I've also heard that the adaption period is a lot easier than with the copper IUDs, and that the post-adaption cramping and bleeding is much lighter than with the copper IUD (again, no personal experience there, just what I've heard).

On the downside, with IUDs you do have to take an exam, and they can only be inserted and removed by a medical practicioner.  The cramping on insertion was pretty damn bad, a lot like early labor was like -- and I was told I had it easier because I've already had two kids, so my cervix is a lot friendlier about getting prodded and shoved at.  My sister said it was really bad for her.  They tell you flat-out to take ibuprofin before you go in for the implant, and yeah.  Really good idea.  The cramping stopped by the end of the day for me, with occasional lighter, regular period-type cramps for the next couple of weeks.  The bleeding, however, goes on for a while.  It's not unheard of to have a three-month period once it's inserted, but the beautiful thing about the Mirena is that most of us stop having periods entirely after that.  I spot a bit on occasion, and that's all.  No cramping or anything!  Another complaint I've heard is that the strings are occasionally noticable during deep penetration. 

tl;dr:  Mirena is totally worth it, and I was a HUGE skeptic at first.




rozenwyn -> RE: Nuvaring- does it squick anyone else? (12/7/2008 1:45:40 PM)

thank you so much penandknife for the further information on the mirena, this makes me feel so much better armed for when i do go and take care of this little issue... and best to get the cramping over when i'm 2000 miles away from Master then when i'm under his roof for good... (last time i spent time with Him i had female time... and he felt so bad about the cramps he called in to work)




AquaticSub -> RE: Nuvaring- does it squick anyone else? (12/7/2008 2:35:14 PM)

BTW - if you are poly or any situation where you have mutiple male partners, be sure to mention to your doctor. I wanted the IUD as well but my doctor and I decided against it because it makes you slightly more likely to contract an STI if exposed. While I don't *plan* on being exposed to STIs, it's something to consider.




RainydayNE -> RE: Nuvaring- does it squick anyone else? (12/7/2008 2:59:57 PM)

the idea of nuvaring doesn't bother me
but i dont like hormones period and i wonder if it's noticable to a partner?
hormones make me freak out, but the idea of an implant makes me freak out, too =p
i've thought about IUDs (do you have to be a certain age/have had kids before you can get one?) and asked a few questions on another thread but nobody read it anymore after that =p





rozenwyn -> RE: Nuvaring- does it squick anyone else? (12/7/2008 3:20:03 PM)

i know with the mirena they suggest it for women who already atleast have a child, but i've never heard of an age limit know a girl last year who was 19 and got the iud.. so no i don't think that there is an age limit.




RainydayNE -> RE: Nuvaring- does it squick anyone else? (12/7/2008 3:24:02 PM)

then maybe it's just been the region i've lived in. =p




impishlilhellcat -> RE: Nuvaring- does it squick anyone else? (12/7/2008 3:24:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rozenwyn

Norplant discontinued in the United States By 1996, more than 50,000 women had filed lawsuits, including 70 class actions, against Wyeth and/or its subsidiaries, or doctors who prescribed Norplant.[7] Wyeth never lost a Norplant lawsuit.[8] On August 26, 1999, after winning 3 jury verdicts, 20 pretrial summary judgments and the dismissal of 14,000 claims, Wyeth offered out-of-court cash settlements of $1,500 each to about 36,000 women who contended that they had not been adequately warned about possible side effects of Norplant such as irregular menstrual bleeding, headaches, nausea and depression. Wyeth said that most of the plaintiffs experienced routine side effects described in Norplant's labeling information. Wyeth did not admit to any wrongdoing, saying the settlement offer "was purely a business decision," noting "our legal success has come at a steep price because lawsuits are time-consuming, expensive, and have a chilling effect on research," and that it would continue to offer Norplant and would defend "any and all new lawsuits aggressively."[9][10] About 32,000 women accepted the out-of-court $1,500 settlements. On August 14, 2002, Wyeth won partial summary judgment and dismissal of the claims of the 2,960 remaining plaintiffs who had not accepted Wyeth's out-of-court settlement offer.[11] In August 2000, Wyeth suspended shipments of Norplant in the United States because during regular quality assurance monitoring, representative samples of seven lots distributed beginning October 20, 1999 tested within product specifications, but at the lower end of the release rate specification for shelf life stability, raising concerns about those lots' contraceptive effectiveness. Wyeth recommended that women who had Norplant capsules from those lots implanted use backup contraception until they determined the clinical relevance of the atypically low levels of levonorgestrel release.[12] On July 26, 2002, Wyeth announced that data from investigations conducted in women with Norplant capsules from the suspect lots did not suggest less contraceptive effectiveness than that reported in clinical trials, and that therefore backup contraception could be safely discontinued. Wyeth also announced that due to limitations in product component supplies, they did not plan to resume marketing the six-capsule Norplant system in the United States.[link=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norplant#cite_note-12][/link]



Anyone can add info on wikipedia it does not have to be checked or even accurate.




impishlilhellcat -> RE: Nuvaring- does it squick anyone else? (12/7/2008 3:27:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rozenwyn

i know with the mirena they suggest it for women who already atleast have a child, but i've never heard of an age limit know a girl last year who was 19 and got the iud.. so no i don't think that there is an age limit.


If you want to use mirena you must have at least one child.




kittinSol -> RE: Nuvaring- does it squick anyone else? (12/7/2008 3:28:17 PM)

You must be a gynaecologist to be able to dish out such advice.




impishlilhellcat -> RE: Nuvaring- does it squick anyone else? (12/7/2008 3:32:24 PM)

Reading the information in the packet and on the mirena website will tell you the same thing so will the commercials. It's not something they hide. A lil research will work. WHatever happened to being accurately informed? And ACTUALLY a pharmacist will know much more about the medication than a gyno.




kittinSol -> RE: Nuvaring- does it squick anyone else? (12/7/2008 3:56:24 PM)

Then,  I wonder why you bother with healthcare professionals altogether, since you are so apt at doing the research yourself?




AquaticSub -> RE: Nuvaring- does it squick anyone else? (12/7/2008 4:18:00 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RainydayNE

the idea of nuvaring doesn't bother me
but i dont like hormones period and i wonder if it's noticable to a partner?
hormones make me freak out, but the idea of an implant makes me freak out, too =p
i've thought about IUDs (do you have to be a certain age/have had kids before you can get one?) and asked a few questions on another thread but nobody read it anymore after that =p




I don't believe there is an age restriction - and nor do you actually have to have a child. Until the mutiple partners thing came up the doctor was willing to give me one, but it's really pushed for married, monogamous people who already have a kid (probably so they don't catch shit from somebody).




Aileen1968 -> RE: Nuvaring- does it squick anyone else? (12/7/2008 4:30:25 PM)

I'm the odd woman out here because this would squick me out.  I nixed the idea of an IUD because of the thought of it remaining in my body.  I only used a diaphragm about three times because I had an anxiety attack each time.  If I remember correctly, you had to leave it in for about 8 hours after sex.  I would lay there in bed wide awake completely freaked because I would just want to take it out right then and there and I knew I couldn't.  And that thing was nasty when you finally could...
I suspect I'd have the same reaction to the nuvaring becasue just thinking about it is starting to freak me out. 




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