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Serving an experienced Domme - 12/7/2008 8:58:36 AM   
slaveforuse83


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Thank you everyone in advance for your input and help,

Okay, I've never posted here before, but am not new to this website and read the forums frequently.

I'm 100% inexperienced in this lifestyle, and know how undesirable that is.  I want more than anything to find out how to serve a female properly, but need help on the best way to do this.
As I said, I read these forums regularly, and know that many sub-males are overly needy and not sincere.  I do not want this to be me, and I want to make sure that I act in a way that a Domme would value.

Here's my question:  I would really like to find a mature Female Dominant to serve and learn from, but I'm not interested in being an extremely long term slave to a woman that is not my age.
Is it unreasonable to want to serve an older woman for only a year or two to learn from?  It seems kind of sleazy to me and selfish, but was curious to know if this is at all common or if I'm overanalyzing the situation.

Like I said, I appreciate any help on the topic.
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RE: Serving an experienced Domme - 12/7/2008 9:20:32 AM   
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ANYTHING is possible, as long as you are open and honest up front, I see  no reason why that arrangement won't happen. It may take time and many of the older Dominas who took boys in to train are sadly no more---however, time and patience may pay off.

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RE: Serving an experienced Domme - 12/7/2008 9:20:54 AM   
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We all gotta start somewhere and learn from someone.  Just don't expect an experienced Domina to want to train you for 'free' or give you lots of hot sex.  It can't be a one way street.  You need to give back to the situation at least as much as you take.

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RE: Serving an experienced Domme - 12/7/2008 9:30:43 AM   
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It's really not that unheard of, if you are not especially looking at it from a sexual standpoint.  There are a lot of folks who will engage in service only type dynamics for this reason. 

It makes a lot of sense for you to see that you don't want to serve an older Dominant for the long term.  There might be a future for you where you would prefer to marry and have children and that might not be practical with an older Dominant in your opinion.  There is nothing wrong with that, as long as you are up front about it, which you appear to be doing here.

Don't be so hard on yourself about the "inexperience being undesirable" bit.  There are plenty with experience that aren't as desirable because they are more 'do me' types, rather than being eager to learn and serve.

Good luck.


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RE: Serving an experienced Domme - 12/7/2008 4:22:00 PM   
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For a few years? Probably not.

I've trained many folks whom I had no interest in beyond friendship. Training lasted 4 months or 14 formal sessions only. It was enough to help them get a taste of a wide range of things and start the self-reflection needed to figure out what they want and how they might get it.

No, I haven't trained anyone in a few years now. Too busy for that.

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RE: Serving an experienced Domme - 12/7/2008 4:40:59 PM   
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 As a Domme - it can be tiresome to hear from so many that want to "serve" , to "learn" , to gain all sorts of experience - and offer nothing in return , and no ultimate commitment .    You're asking for a year or two of training ?  Unless you're planning on being with a Pro - what exactly do you have to offer someone who might agree to take you on ?  Think about that .    Barter can work - but you need to have something that a Domme will value - besides your butt to beat on .

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RE: Serving an experienced Domme - 12/7/2008 4:56:11 PM   
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I think it is very wonderful when someone can offer some assitance to someone who really is sincere, but most seem to have a concept of training, service, etc. that doesn't jive with real life dominant's idea of things.  In person this is almost as previlant as it is online, I've found.  In certain circles it may not be as bad, but I am talking in every day settings and not so called lifestyle or bdsm events.

Many do not actually wish to learn to serve and are most often looking for the kinky or sexual kick of it all.  While there is nothing wrong with that unless they are socially inept, it isn't service or what I see as service.  A dominant can put a lot of work... hours, attention, focus and such to train someone and if they are only learning to get the cookies afterwards... noooooooooooooooo! lol  Every dominant wants something a bit different in service and training is typically specific to them, but there are some in-general things one could learn from someone who is willing to train someone in the things they are interested in.

Finding someone with the time, the incentive and all that is a different story.  Everyone most of the time needs to get something out of the situation.  There are some that will do it because they are generous that way and some who will do it to abuse and feel powerful... and I could go on.  Setting a stage of such a long period would be daunting to most I would think.  I sure wouldn't do it, even if I were to help or mentor someone along, which I have and may do again in the future... but not the near future! lol Yikes...

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RE: Serving an experienced Domme - 12/7/2008 5:16:15 PM   
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Thank you all for the different perspectives and advice.  I didn't realize that putting the time period that I did was so unrealistic.  I didn't mean to imply that this was my expectation, it was just a showing of how little I know about this sort of thing.

Thank you all again, I appreciate the help.

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RE: Serving an experienced Domme - 12/7/2008 5:53:02 PM   
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I haven't taken on a formal trainee in a bit.  The last one decided not to work with me after I had to explain that he and I were NOT dating, and that he was not to be on the hunt during the few months he would be working with me.  Guess I wanted too long of a commitment!

While it can be beneficial to work closely with one person, there is a lot to be said for having many experiences with many people.  Be open about what you are looking for.

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RE: Serving an experienced Domme - 12/8/2008 2:59:48 AM   
DelilahDeb


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OP: Not unrealistic, but something that you'll need to work at communicating.
For instance: I'm not interested in the sort of sub I have to micromanage—go there, do this, pick this up, etc. I have no objection to teaching a sub how I wish my toys cleaned, and instruct him that after a session (including any aftercare), he is to tidy and clean any toys and the areas that were used in the scene. And if we are only seeing each other every few months and he needs reminding about some details, that's fine. But I don't expect to have to tell him each time, and how to do it, and what comes next. I use this example because one of my regular subs has pleased me greatly (despite the time between his visits) by retaining such information and putting it to use without my needing to cue him. That's one kind of service. The same sub has major electrical and electronic skills, and has happily changed out some ancient outlets in my home, replaced the ballast in an overhead fluorescent light…that sort of thing.

Another sort of service is the purely mundane stuff: my "garden sub" has done most of the major work on my yard for the past several months. He has experience with it, seems to enjoy it (or at least enjoy assisting me by handling it), and we enjoy our play sessions as well, experimenting together at times with new toys or techniques.

I would very much enjoy connecting with a sub who *likes* to make engines purr and brakes take hold, but the people-factor comes first. The sub and I have to be mutually interesting on a personal level, be able to communicate with reasonable success, and have overlapping interests in the dungeon.

With your interest in a lifelong relationship down the road, you may wish to find someone who can use a skill or skills that you already have, and who has sufficient experience to train you in a mixture of styles; that is, for instance, I couldn't train you in a high protocol style because I don't work like that and have never bothered to learn it. I recognize a very few indicators of protocol (as when a domina arrives at a public dungeon with two leashed subs in tow and they kneel at her feet, silently, while she chats with others and awaits the third sub they're all expecting, before she leashes the third and leads them all off to their scene). Or when I remember to ask the D half of a pair at a play party whether the sub is available for conversation. I've attended a couple of domina-run protocolish/Victorian social events, and they were great fun. But I'd undoubtedly put my foot in it if I attended anything on the right, I mean rigid, coast.

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RE: Serving an experienced Domme - 12/8/2008 5:38:40 AM   
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slave..i am pretty much in the same boat although i do know some aspects.Being a submissive male servant didn't just happen overnight.It is something i have desired and quite frankly needed in my life for a very very long time.I have recently been priviledged enough to find it.I have much to learn but i am giving of myself to be molded in Mistress's eyes.Keep it real and you shouldn't have a problem.

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RE: Serving an experienced Domme - 12/8/2008 6:14:26 PM   
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Sure I'd love to have a part time sub to play and train. But them I'm married...and anyone that enters these doors has to know they are never going to be long term. And that they will always be second to my husband. Not everyone is looking for a LTR.

I don't mind inexperience...a willingness to learn is important...Just be upfront about what you are looking for. Don't lie. Be honest. And get involved in the local scene. Lots more people there than on here willing to train.


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