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RE: Can Obama Escape the Taint of Blagojevich? - 12/10/2008 11:44:23 AM

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"All of the above" (or whatever the hell she used to say) is not an energy policy.

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RE: Can Obama Escape the Taint of Blagojevich? - 12/10/2008 12:54:10 PM

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Trying to paint with a broadbrush just gets paint all over everyone.....
As for a third party Best neither you nor I will live so long.

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RE: Can Obama Escape the Taint of Blagojevich? - 12/10/2008 1:39:02 PM

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You know it is funny...if someone looked at their child and said serial killer to be and killed him..we would lock them up in prision for the rest of their lives.
If the mother of the CEO of Enron had said..son's gone bad..forget about him or take him out she would be castigated.

If the parents of half of the people on CM had a clue that their kids were going to grow up to be perverts, sadists, gay or whatever and abandoned them at young ages, we would look upon them with scorn for doing so.

If an employer fires someone and labels them as a thief before they have stolen something they are held accountable for it, because the person hasn't done anything yet.

WHY in the name of all that is Omniscience do some people want to require that every candidate, official elected or the President elect be aware of everything that someone whose hand he may have shaken at a fund raiser, been on a committee with or worked with may have done, will do, is doing?

Every blasted candidate we had shook hundreds and thousands of hands during the campaign and had people working on those campaigns. At least one (more likely more) of them may have had illegal porn on their computer, been cheating on their wife, stolen from an employer, hit someone, lapsed their insurance, hurt someone, drove drunk, coerced someone, or done thousands of things that were illegal or at the very least questionable. How in the name of anything are we holding that Candidate/Elected Official responsible for what someone they are not involved with save peripherally does?

We don't even expect Mothers, Fathers or Spouses to know everything..why expect our politicians to know what every other politician is doing?

Could the President elect at least get SWORN IN before we blame him for every corrupt politician out there who dipped his hand in a till somewhere? This investigation went on for some time since the election in November, apparently, it was not something that cropped up within 24 hours of his statements about Bank of America. Even the FBI is not that fast and they had to wait for him to make recordable statements AFTER getting a Warrant for a wire tap, which means they already had someone informing them of malfeasance going on.

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RE: Can Obama Escape the Taint of Blagojevich? - 12/10/2008 1:43:55 PM

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Only the desperate and sad want to blame Obama for anyone he's ever met.

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RE: Can Obama Escape the Taint of Blagojevich? - 12/10/2008 3:41:22 PM

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Nixon did not break into the Watergate, yet it got him impeached.
No it didn't, he wasn't impeached

This is a moot point, as Nixon resigned first. The first ever president to resign, I think. He knew impeachment was heading his way.

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RE: Can Obama Escape the Taint of Blagojevich? - 12/10/2008 6:19:05 PM

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Aaaah, Cl, you could get a gig writing for Rush and such.

Blagojevich wasn't allowed to speak at the Dem's convention. Obama avoided him like the plague . He's been under investigation since shortly after he took office. The U.S. attorney for the northern district of Illinois has said, repeatedly, that there is no evidence of Obama's involvement in the current scandal.

The only "taint " here is that any rumors you may wish to fan regarding an Obama/Blagojevich connection just 'taint true. Shame on you, you know better.

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RE: Can Obama Escape the Taint of Blagojevich? - 12/10/2008 6:51:18 PM

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Obama avoided him like the plague . He's been under investigation since shortly after he took office.

Well, that's just not accurate, now, is it?

Dear Leader did stump for him during his re-election campaign in 2006 (Blagojevich was already under investigation). To quote his speech at the Illinois State Fair in August, 2006: "We've got a governor in Rod Blagojevich who has delivered consistently on behalf of the people of Illinois."

Or his interview in the Chicago Daily Herald a month earlier: "If the governor asks me to work on his behalf, I'll be happy to do it."

Stump speeches and interviews on behalf of someone are a strange way of "avoiding them like the plague."

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RE: Can Obama Escape the Taint of Blagojevich? - 12/10/2008 9:00:21 PM

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Trying to paint with a broadbrush just gets paint all over everyone.....
As for a third party Best neither you nor I will live so long.

that is what the pubs and dems are banking on! too bad so many are blind or refuse to take a serious look at a respectable 3rd party candidate. please, stop selling candidates like Wayne Root short! give him a look!

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RE: Can Obama Escape the Taint of Blagojevich? - 12/10/2008 9:31:52 PM

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please, stop selling candidates like Wayne Root short!

As soon as he stops running his infomercial on his gambling system and returns every dime he has defrauded out of gullible people.

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RE: Can Obama Escape the Taint of Blagojevich? - 12/10/2008 9:39:11 PM

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I doubt that P.E. Obama had anything to do with it but, Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr is all "lawyered up" and he has some 'splainin' to do!

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RE: Can Obama Escape the Taint of Blagojevich? - 12/11/2008 5:55:31 AM

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Obama avoided him like the plague . He's been under investigation since shortly after he took office.

Well, that's just not accurate, now, is it?

Dear Leader did stump for him during his re-election campaign in 2006 (Blagojevich was already under investigation). To quote his speech at the Illinois State Fair in August, 2006: "We've got a governor in Rod Blagojevich who has delivered consistently on behalf of the people of Illinois."

Or his interview in the Chicago Daily Herald a month earlier: "If the governor asks me to work on his behalf, I'll be happy to do it."

Stump speeches and interviews on behalf of someone are a strange way of "avoiding them like the plague."

Well, ok, maybe not like "the plague"...

Besides, Blago did "deliver on behalf of the people of Illinois". He delivered corruption which the peeps of Illinois seem to appreciate. Remember, Chicago is "the city that works" and that takes, umm, grease. Four out of the last eight governors of Illinois went to prison on corruption convictions. Hell, it's traditional.

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RE: Can Obama Escape the Taint of Blagojevich? - 12/11/2008 6:05:24 AM

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Yea, But Walkers prison term had nothing to do with his being governor.

Here's hoping Blag, gets more than 7 years then he will not be able to go to a min security prison

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RE: Can Obama Escape the Taint of Blagojevich? - 12/11/2008 9:26:00 AM

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But you guys have fun for the next eight years, one month and 10 ten days. Or maybe get a hobby.

I'll be laughing my ass off at your country for the next 4 years, one month, and 9 days. :p

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RE: Can Obama Escape the Taint of Blagojevich? - 12/11/2008 9:35:15 AM

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RE: Can Obama Escape the Taint of Blagojevich? - 12/11/2008 9:36:00 AM

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Wow such a brave statement from someone whoes profile is hidden.

Jeez how much of a p^%$y are you to hide here?? What brave lads they breed in yur family

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RE: Can Obama Escape the Taint of Blagojevich? - 12/11/2008 9:38:09 AM

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Since when did having a visible profile constitute "bravery" or not having a visible one mean cowardice? (Hint: It doesn't. It's entirly irrelevant. Nice ad hominem though).

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RE: Can Obama Escape the Taint of Blagojevich? - 12/11/2008 9:46:23 AM

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Thank god there`s someone with a shred of integrity handling the case.

If Mr. Obama is involved he`ll say so.When he clears Mr. Obama,the cons will have cotton candy to chew on,while we eat steak.

And I don`t think Mr Obama has been anywhere near Blago`s tain`t. It`s stinky down there.

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RE: Can Obama Escape the Taint of Blagojevich? - 12/11/2008 11:47:32 AM

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Since when did having a visible profile constitute "bravery" or not having a visible one mean cowardice? (Hint: It doesn't. It's entirly irrelevant. Nice ad hominem though).

Red Herring, actually, but that's not relevant at the moment either.

A disturbing number of posters do hide behind bogus identities. Consider--someone joins collarme, a site designed to bring lifestyle people together, yet that someone has no profile. Why would someone do that?

This is understandable for a poster who's been around a while and grown tired of unwanted emails, especially female members.

But for relatively new members, it is a red flag, and trolls do abound.

Not an accusation directed at you at all, just an explanation. Missing profiles are relevant and worth considering, just as a web site with no visible source or author is suspect.

To march in and expect instant respect and authority is unreasonable. To rail at people who question the expectation is too.

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RE: Can Obama Escape the Taint of Blagojevich? - 12/11/2008 5:25:21 PM

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I don't believe Obama is connected and will not be hurt at all by these events

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