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Obama extends Inaugural Invite to Gay Band Groups - 12/10/2008 3:10:39 PM   
BlackPhx


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Status: offline 		Today, President-elect Barack Obama and Vice President-elect Joe Biden's Inaugural Committee officially extended an offer to the Lesbian and Gay Band Association to march in the 56th Inaugural Parade.

For the full story:

http://www.examiner.com/x-391-Denver-Gay-Examiner~y2008m12d10-Obama-extends-firstever-Inaugural-invitation-to-gay-groups

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RE: Obama extends Inaugural Invite to Gay Band Groups - 12/10/2008 7:28:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Very cool, Black Phoenix, thanks for posting this. 

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RE: Obama extends Inaugural Invite to Gay Band Groups - 12/10/2008 7:37:54 PM   
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RE: Obama extends Inaugural Invite to Gay Band Groups - 12/10/2008 8:17:58 PM   
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Two words:

Who cares?



I didn't even know we had a band association...learn something new every day.

And no CL, I really don't care.

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RE: Obama extends Inaugural Invite to Gay Band Groups - 12/10/2008 8:43:45 PM   
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RE: Obama extends Inaugural Invite to Gay Band Groups - 12/10/2008 9:05:12 PM   
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Will they be doing songs by the BeeGees?

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RE: Obama extends Inaugural Invite to Gay Band Groups - 12/10/2008 9:46:13 PM   
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Apparently you do................ enough to take the time to post your usual tedious sarcasm.



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RE: Obama extends Inaugural Invite to Gay Band Groups - 12/10/2008 9:48:09 PM   
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RE: Obama extends Inaugural Invite to Gay Band Groups - 12/10/2008 9:54:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why is this news worthy?
Do I *need to know* whether someone is gay if I'm listening to their music?

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RE: Obama extends Inaugural Invite to Gay Band Groups - 12/10/2008 9:57:09 PM   
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I care - it's a political gesture that appeals to me. Ahh politics...

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RE: Obama extends Inaugural Invite to Gay Band Groups - 12/10/2008 9:58:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Awesome.  Finally a president that realizes that there is, and recognizes the talent, service, and things of worth from other groups aside from just the typical republican nuclear families with 6+ figure incomes.  Too bad some other people a bit higher on the thread don't...  God forbid we actually have an inclusive leader finally.  I have to say, for the first time in a long time, I'm actually beginning to not feel ashamed to say "I live in the U.S." 


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RE: Obama extends Inaugural Invite to Gay Band Groups - 12/10/2008 10:21:58 PM   
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Why is this news worthy?
Do I *need to know* whether someone is gay if I'm listening to their music?


Why isn't it newsworthy???  Gosh,  I don't know do you need to know if someone is gay if your listening to their music?


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RE: Obama extends Inaugural Invite to Gay Band Groups - 12/10/2008 10:27:48 PM   
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Awesome.  Finally a president that realizes that there is, and recognizes the talent, service, and things of worth from other groups aside from just the typical republican nuclear families with 6+ figure incomes.  Too bad some other people a bit higher on the thread don't...  God forbid we actually have an inclusive leader finally.  I have to say, for the first time in a long time, I'm actually beginning to not feel ashamed to say "I live in the U.S." 





Perfectly stated BKSir I agree!

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RE: Obama extends Inaugural Invite to Gay Band Groups - 12/10/2008 10:34:31 PM   
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Two words:

Who cares?



I care - it's a political gesture that appeals to me. Ahh politics...


OK, how is this a "political gesture?"
I thought being gay was a "sexual issue."
Don't get me wrong, I'm not at all hostile towards gays, I support gay marriage.
It would seem to me that if you wanted to be "inclusive" to gays you wouldn't want to be singling them out.
What if there's a few people in those groups who wish to maintain their privacy?
Why do people have a need to try to politicise everything?
I mean is that really neccessary?
And what if other groups feel excluded?
That "feel good" "political correctness crap never works.
If you were in one of those music groups would you want people applauding you because they liked your music or because they knew you were gay?

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RE: Obama extends Inaugural Invite to Gay Band Groups - 12/11/2008 2:12:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		...George Michael was just booked to perform after the inaugural dinner in the west wing bathroom......

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RE: Obama extends Inaugural Invite to Gay Band Groups - 12/11/2008 2:23:03 AM   
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OK, how is this a "political gesture?"
I thought being gay was a "sexual issue."
Don't get me wrong, I'm not at all hostile towards gays, I support gay marriage.
It would seem to me that if you wanted to be "inclusive" to gays you wouldn't want to be singling them out.
What if there's a few people in those groups who wish to maintain their privacy?

It's a band composed of gays and lesbians. Those in it aren't concerned about the closet or they wouldn't be in it.
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Why do people have a need to try to politicise everything?

Not everything but, as I go into below, things involving the inauguration simply *are* political.
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I mean is that really neccessary?
And what if other groups feel excluded?

I'm sure they will. That's another part of politics - trying to keep all the balls in the air.
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That "feel good" "political correctness crap never works.
If you were in one of those music groups would you want people applauding you because they liked your music or because they knew you were gay?

I would want you, Popeye, to clap because you like my music. However, if I'm invited to play at the inauguration because I make great music and the President wants to make a political gesture I have no issue with that. 1) I know I must be good or I wouldn't make the cut and 2) I'd be pleased that the President is making that gesture.

And, blah, I'm not talking political correctness at all. That's bullshit.

But this is a political gesture. "Minority" groups are not chosen accidently. Everyone who will speak, march, sing, dance, play music, fart on cue has been looked at from all angles. It's a gesture of goodwill towards the gay community and, hopefully, a sign that he will keep gay issues in mind during his term.

Who the President entertains and is entertained by at public events such as this are never as simple as "he likes the music". You can regard that a shame but I regard this as much more noteworthy than if Suri Cruise is off her weird oatmeal shake yet though more Americans are probably interested in the latter.

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RE: Obama extends Inaugural Invite to Gay Band Groups - 12/11/2008 3:25:28 AM   
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Who cares?



I care - it's a political gesture that appeals to me. Ahh politics...


OK, how is this a "political gesture?"
It's the contrast with the white anti-gay country-club party. (36 out of 2000-something delegates to the Republican convention were other than white. That speaks volumes.)
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I thought being gay was a "sexual issue."
Why would you think gays have issues with sex?
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not at all hostile towards gays, I support gay marriage.
SO do I.
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It would seem to me that if you wanted to be "inclusive" to gays you wouldn't want to be singling them out.
What if there's a few people in those groups who wish to maintain their privacy?
I could be wrong, but I don't think one joins "The Gay Mens Chorus of Manhattan" to be in the closet.
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Why do people have a need to try to politicise everything?
I mean is that really neccessary?
Because human group behavior is political.
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And what if other groups feel excluded?
Like who? The KKK Marching Band?
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That "feel good" "political correctness crap never works.
Tell it to the people who were at Stonewall.
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If you were in one of those music groups would you want people applauding you because they liked your music or because they knew you were gay?
As long as they spelled my name right. 

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RE: Obama extends Inaugural Invite to Gay Band Groups - 12/11/2008 3:27:17 AM   
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...George Michael was just booked to perform after the inaugural dinner in the west wing bathroom......
Because that particular bathroom will be booked up by Republican congressmen until then.

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RE: Obama extends Inaugural Invite to Gay Band Groups - 12/11/2008 5:54:59 AM   
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Apparently you do................ enough to take the time to post your usual tedious sarcasm.

Apathy, not sarcasm, with a thin veneer of contempt at the shallowness of the gesture.


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RE: Obama extends Inaugural Invite to Gay Band Groups - 12/11/2008 2:47:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		CL this may not be Newsworthy to you. You may not see it as anything more than a political ploy..but it is an advance when an openly gay group is invited to March and Play. Perhaps not as big a breakthrough as the first time brilliant coloratura soprano, Marie Selika (1878) or the Fisk Jubilee Singers (1882) (both Black) sang and played at the White House, but still a significant advance considering it has been a horrible year for Same Sex  rights to marry and adopt. Previously just because they are an openly gay band, they would have not have received an invite even if they rivaled Bond or the Philharmonic Orchestra in ability and fame.

It may one day lead to other oppressed groups gaining some rights...like those who practice BDSM being recognized as a sexual orientation instead of being lumped in with Sex Offenders, Prostitution and Domestic Violence. Frankly I find it far more newsworthy than the latest Movie star busted for DUI.

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