tsatske -> RE: Why aren't there stricter protocals in place about foreigners speaking the native launguage better? (12/11/2008 7:50:30 PM)
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While that is probably a thinly concealed dig at my poor skills in english, I will agree that is true. However if I had studied english for 20 years, * impossible in itself since I am only 26* I think I would be much much MUCH improved on my grammar and spelling and such things, since the issue is I was never taught very well about grammar and other stuff when I was going to school, And there's other area's such as math, where there are HUGE gaps in my education. I simply cannot get my head wrapped around the possiblity that I am understanding you. I must be reading what you are saying completely wrong. Are you really saying that *other* people are responsible for their own education, and making sure that they study and learn things that would make them more socially acceptable to you - but you are not responsible for your own education? really? You are 26, that means you have, indeed, been formally studying English, grammer, spelling, reading, writing and vocabulary for 20 years - and informally for 26 years. I also got a very bad public school education, and I work, on my own, to improve. I am taking myself through some computer programs designed for middle schoolers because, esp in math, there is one - ONE - particular thing that I have NEVER been able to get through my thick head, even with the help of sons who are Master's canadates in Pure Math, an Engineer for both a first DH and a current Master. I fretted about how poor American Education is in Geography, so I worked on finding resources to teach my sons those things better than I felt they would get them in school. I worked at finding all kinds of history resources, because I was terrified that in school they would learn 'White Male Middle Class Protestant American US History', and I just would NOT have that. You can learn, anything that you want to learn. You are 26. You are young. (young enough that you should still be in school, in fact). If you feel that doctor was responsible for her own education - than so are you. BTW, you do not have to be a citizen in order to practice as a doctor or lawyer in the US. You do, however, have to pass tests on your ability to speak English as well as on your licence, if you recieve your licence from schools outside the US. I guess they just didn't have 'horse' on the test. really, how bad is that? call in a nurse and say, she does not understand that I fell from a horse.' (that is, if there hadn't been a calander handy) My sister used to be a manager at a resteraunt where they had so much Spanish speaking staff that the corperate headquarters sent her a poster with common words in English and Spanish. She said, 'it has words like horse, cow, and church. I need words like 'go home, come back tommorrow' 'can you work late' and 'you are fired' Edit - BTW, if you really do have any desire to improve your grmmer, ect - can I recomend a delightful, fun to read book, 'Eats, Shoots, and Leaves' ? :)
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