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Hypnosis for a CD - 12/12/2008 10:04:03 PM

Windygal

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Hello,

I am looking for any information I can on using hypnosis to help a CD feel more fem. I asked this on Ask a Mistress, and have recived no info. Help anyone?

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RE: Hypnosis for a CD - 12/13/2008 4:41:58 AM

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If you use the search facility lass, you will find a goodly number of posts on the subject of Hypnoses including me missives against the use of hypnosis other than that done by recognised, certified and professional Hypnotherapists or other suitably medically trained people. rather than hypnosis, and I'm not really sure precisely what you mean or want so I can advise professionally, meditation in the right state of mind should enhance a CD to feel more feminine... Just my thoughts, no more, no less.

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RE: Hypnosis for a CD - 12/13/2008 8:53:24 AM

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I'm with Bear.....unless a professional is doing it, you should leave it alone.

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RE: Hypnosis for a CD - 12/15/2008 4:42:35 PM

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Bear and Oside,

You respectable members... how I do love reading your posts.

But I disagree here. Many first timers do bondage, asphyxiation, fire and electrical play without supervision, can hypnotism be any worse? The power of Natural Selection has been so blunted in western culture, why take away recreational hypnotism?

Now, if I could only figure out whether this was cynicism, irony, or am I just plain ornery? One of those professional 'tists.

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RE: Hypnosis for a CD - 12/15/2008 6:08:20 PM

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Perhaps it is because I for one have spent more time than I care to think about, trying to undo the dammage done by amateur hypnotists. Also again I believe in a very simple rule that you do not jump in bolots and all particularly when you are also risking other people where there is a real danger of them getting hurt not to mention (depending on the laws governing you), oit you facing civik and/or criminal charges under duty of care and belkieve me inexperience or ignorance is no excuse. With every new venture I have taken regarding BDSM play, I have studied and looked for guidence by people experienced and with a good reputation locally. I actually yet to find any professionally qualified and certified hypnotist/hypnotherapist who will disagree with what I have stated. You want to go ahead and take the coyboy path, thatis no skin off my nose. I physically can not stop you. However I have given my advise and views her often enough and wipe my hands of the matter if such warnings are unheaded.. .

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RE: Hypnosis for a CD - 12/15/2008 6:18:28 PM

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A first timer doing breath or fire play without supervision?!?!? WTF?

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RE: Hypnosis for a CD - 12/15/2008 9:30:59 PM

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Aye it had me thinking too. me thinkest that we are seeing a First Timer in the process of becomming burned out and a last timer to boot.

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RE: Hypnosis for a CD - 12/15/2008 9:31:03 PM

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A first timer doing breath or fire play without supervision?!?!? WTF?

I've done both without supervision. Admittedly my apartment was on fire at the time, but I was on my own until the fire brigade got there.

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RE: Hypnosis for a CD - 12/16/2008 6:23:21 AM

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Bear and all,

Naw, it was just me going too far with what I use for a sense of humor. It didn't work. The hyperbole was meant to indicate that this CD should go work with a professional hypnotist, instead of having a friend trolling for the next hobbiest at best, or abuser at worse, on a fetish site. Just the same as they shouldn't look for an eager, unvetted amateur to do any other fetish activities.

As I've said before, it's not hypnotizing someone that gets people in trouble. It's mishandling the situation once a hypnotic state has been accomplished. My angst or ire gets raised because all of this is just common sense. To let a stranger hypnotize you through a fetish website contact so that both of you can get your jollies is simply failing one of Life's little IQ tests. Sometimes ya get lucky. The other times the game is rigged, you don't even know the rules... and you lose. My point is... the use of hypnotism doesn't make it any different from any other fetish activity that may have consequences.

We know nothing about this CD's situation. However, except for the expected rush of being hypnotized, I wonder if hypnotism is even needed in a situation like this. What's the problem? If the CD isn't feeling feminine enough, maybe they just haven't practiced enough, yet? Maybe they aren't cut out to be a comfortable CD? We can't all be Tootsie, after all. Can hypnotism be used so that this CD can be all he can be? Sure... but that doesn't mean it needs to be, or should be done.

Now, give me back my White Hat, damnit!

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RE: Hypnosis for a CD - 12/16/2008 7:13:15 AM

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Have been a hypnosis subject many many times....if anyone thinks a hypnotist can cause long term damages, it will happen, only because they have convinced their own subconscious that it will do damage. And if there is damage, then hire a PROFESSIONAL hypnotherapist to correct your own thinking. Like Masterhypnotist said, hypnosis is simply using common sense to it's fullest capability.
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RE: Hypnosis for a CD - 12/17/2008 12:55:01 AM

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Hypnosis is thinking therefore i am 'fem' is this roleplay or fun reguarding your question.

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RE: Hypnosis for a CD - 12/17/2008 6:25:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: subconscious1

Have been a hypnosis subject many many times....if anyone thinks a hypnotist can cause long term damages, it will happen, only because they have convinced their own subconscious that it will do damage. And if there is damage, then hire a PROFESSIONAL hypnotherapist to correct your own thinking. Like Masterhypnotist said, hypnosis is simply using common sense to it's fullest capability.
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You state that you have been a hypnosis subject many, many times. Would I be correct in surmising that your experience has been in the hands of either stage hypnotists or amateur hypnotists and they have gives you the crap that you can not be made to do anything against your will etc ad nauseam? You appear to be using your vast "experience" as a basis to make such sweeping statements as you did. The only thing you said which is accurate is suggesting someone with problems seek a Professional Hypnotherapist (Mental Health Certified, or certified by ate appropriate body depending on your location). FYI, some of my patients have suffered psychosis following agreeing to be the subject of amateurs who in the course of their ignorance have allowed deep seated issues to be released without correct controls to help the patient deal with them. I have also used hypnosis in combination with drugs for interrogation purposes (not advised to try at home or without a propper medical team in support..

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RE: Hypnosis for a CD - 12/17/2008 7:08:19 AM

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I have a background in psychology too, although not to the level that bear does. But, I've seen the damage that an amateur can do. There's a reason why it's called "subconscious" because we're not always aware of what lurks in there.

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if anyone thinks a hypnotist can cause long term damages, it will happen, only because they have convinced their own subconscious that it will do damage.

You're incorrect. An amateur accidently brushing up against a traumatic repressed memory has nothing to do with the subjects opinion on whether damage will be done. That's like saying you'll only have an accident if you think you will.

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RE: Hypnosis for a CD - 12/17/2008 8:16:20 AM

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Bear and Oside,

In your replies to subconscious1, you've brought something to my thought process that I have I had partitioned off. Thank you.

Hypno-play may touch on issues/experiences for which an untrained hypnotist may have no better resources than to say, "There, there, it will be all right," or whatever shocked response they are able to mutter.

To say anymore would be to hijack the thread worse than it already has been hijacked.

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RE: Hypnosis for a CD - 12/17/2008 10:28:57 AM

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MH, on another track but in a similar vein and fitting in with the overall thrust of the OP wanting to use hypnosis, I am sure you are more that aware that hypnosis if moderately successful, can and at times does have the effect of blocking pain. Hypnotised subjects can and do remain in positions or with arms (for example) stretched horizontally for a period longer than they can do under normal circumstances. This being the case and if the hypno play involved unusual or restrictive bondage or is used in some forms of pain play, he or she will not recognise the danger due to the pain being blocked and be able to use a safe word what and if their normal tolerance to pain or other limits is exceeded. I'm not even thinking abpout the extreem play areas but for some it is but a short distance from reaching their limits and pain threshold to dammage occuring. Just an after thought on this matter.

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