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Don't try and make the world a more negative place than it is. It hasn't really altered, people are still people and images are just that, their representation.

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Of course its active...and very competitive...ratings are EVERYTHING...and who every said they were a public service...not me. They are just out to make a buck...not mold the easily influenced. That’s the job of Washington.

Really? Then why was there so much money spent on media coverage? If it didn't work as a tool for getting what they want, why would they use it? If the media couldn't manipulate people, why would they spend so much money on it?

Obama spent more money on media coverage than everything else combined, some $339.8 million. Why? Because the media made him popular. The power of the media went to the highest bidder and it came through for him in spades.

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An image landing on an editor's desk, without an exact description that image can be  made to tell another story, sometimes even when the true facts are available. It pays well to just be aware what can be done with photographic images and how the mood  of the viewer can be manipulated by imagery.

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I would buy what you are saying, except that there are too many proofs against it. For example, most people equated what Tina Fay presented in her satires as coming directly from Sarah Palin's mouth in the campaign. A specific example is "Sarah" stating that she could see Russia from her porch. People fell for it hook, line and sinker.

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Now, there are more subtle examples that people can pull up, but it is quite obvious that 1) the media had an agenda that is supported in terms of the candidates and 2) the media had a strong influence upon who was elected by what it presented as well as didn't present during this campaign cycle.

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Sorry I don't believe that to be true...show me the proof that MOST people equated that.

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I think you are showing your own personal political beliefs...otherwise because people did not agree with me there must be bias in the media.

Don't buy that either.

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Don't try and make the world a more negative place than it is. It hasn't really altered, people are still people and images are just that, their representation.

I am not trying to make the world more of a negative place than it is, as in fact for some it is an increasingly more positive place, technology is actuating that, but what I am saying is all the present world difficulties as reported in media can be quite different from the actual events.

An image is just a snapshot in time, but that snapshot can tell many stories. A photographer, videographer, cinematographer worth his salt can use his equiptment to tell many stories with that same image.  All I am saying is photography is a creative process and often it is photographers even in the situations where it requires an honest image, just a straight forward point and press, that image can tell a different story from the same situation captured by another photographer, as creative people are creative people.

An image landing on an editor's desk, without an exact description that image can be  made to tell another story, sometimes even when the true facts are available. It pays well to just be aware what can be done with photographic images and how the mood  of the viewer can be manipulated by imagery.

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Or do you go by the old adage, believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see, if you do how do you discern truth in an increasingly false world ?

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How about the Zogby Exit Poll that basically showed exactly that?

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Aren't exit polls generally pretty inaccurate? Also, while Sarah Palin never said she could see Russia from her house, she did say that she had foreign policy experience because you could see Russia from parts of Alaska (not her house). Which is still pretty retarded. You can blame the media for that if you'd like, but I think blaming John McCain for choosing a terrible running mate would probably be the smarter route to take.

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Aren't exit polls generally pretty inaccurate? Also, while Sarah Palin never said she could see Russia from her house, she did say that she had foreign policy experience because you could see Russia from parts of Alaska (not her house). Which is still pretty retarded. You can blame the media for that if you'd like, but I think blaming John McCain for choosing a terrible running mate would probably be the smarter route to take.

Exit polls when determining who was voted for have a certain amount of error, but this was not that kind of poll. The poll was to determine media bias and how it affected voters perceptions of the candidates. I personally think there were some holes in it, but there was enough there to raise some questions and it certainly did not throw any sand on the fire.

*sigh* No, she didn't say that either. She did say that Alaska has trade relations with Russia. She did say that there are parts of Alaska where you could see Russia's coast. She did talk about remarks that Putin made when Russia invaded United States air space over Alaska. None of these remarks were "retarded." They were, however, taken out of context by the media.

John McCain chose a fine running mate. She is not popular because she is not a Washington insider. So she did not speak the same jargon that "good ole boys" used who are Washington insiders and that was held against her. That does not make her "terrible" or "retarded." That means she actually represented change instead of the same old Washington B.S. that we seem to be stuck with in terms of Obama bringing back the Clintons' administration.

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Exit polls when determining who was voted for have a certain amount of error, but this was not that kind of poll. The poll was to determine media bias and how it affected voters perceptions of the candidates. I personally think there were some holes in it, but there was enough there to raise some questions and it certainly did not throw any sand on the fire.

*sigh* No, she didn't say that either. She did say that Alaska has trade relations with Russia. She did say that there are parts of Alaska where you could see Russia's coast. She did talk about remarks that Putin made when Russia invaded United States air space over Alaska. None of these remarks were "retarded." They were, however, taken out of context by the media.

John McCain chose a fine running mate. She is not popular because she is not a Washington insider. So she did not speak the same jargon that "good ole boys" used who are Washington insiders and that was held against her. That does not make her "terrible" or "retarded." That means she actually represented change instead of the same old Washington B.S. that we seem to be stuck with in terms of Obama bringing back the Clintons' administration.

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Anyways, if she's on video saying something, without editing, that's not media manipulation, that's her being retarded and unprepared.

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Anyways, if she's on video saying something, without editing, that's not media manipulation, that's her being retarded and unprepared.

You mean like Obama claiming he had campaigned in all 57 states? Now *THAT* is retarded.

Palin trying to deal with Couric (in a very hostile interview, I might add) doesn't qualify as retarded or unprepared.

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...I think you just lost any credibility you may have had when you called Katie Couric hostile. That interview was pretty much kittens and rainbows. Had any male politician reacted the way Palin acted, he would have been crucified.