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Having a house built...e ce - 12/18/2008 11:02:17 AM

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So, the wife and I are planning on having a house built sometime in the near future. I took some drafting classes a few years ago so I know just enough to mess everything up. Either way, we are planning on building a hidden dungeon room in the house. If we are north far enough to do it in the basement it would be there, otherwise it would take up a considerable amount of space on a second floor. I say hidden because we found these things at http://www.hiddenpassageway.com/ that can be used to hide a room behind a swinging bookcase or something scooby doo style. I am thinking it will come off the bedroom and that will be the only entrance into the room.

Either way, we are designing it and trying to figure out what to integrate into the room as it is built. The plan is to design it fairly large with a 4 post bed at the center, I was looking at the ones on stockroom perhaps. Maybe a brick or faux brick finish. Not sure about the floor, as dont want something that will stain like carpet, but I hate cold floors. The walls would have some pictures hanging on them, with all of the smaller toys either on shelfs or hanging on metal runners. The plan was also to integrate a flat screen and dvd player into one wall, as well as speakers built for surround sound in each corner. I was also thinking about installing a simple toilet, or perhaps just a drain in one corner if it is like a concrete type floor and maybe put a showerhead above it or just a throne-built like toilet above, #1 only in it then of course. I also know at least one part of the ceiling should be load bearing reinforced for suspension. And then scattered about the room would be various other large toys, maybe a saint Andrew's Cross, a cage, not sure all what else.

I am just wondering, this was basically the design I was working with, but I don't really want to discuss to much with the actually planners of course, so I am looking for any other ideas that should be integrated now. If anyone has some good thoughts on what is essential please let me know. Thanks~

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RE: Having a house built...e ce - 12/18/2008 11:18:08 AM

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Try wood for the floor? I'm not a builder/architect, but I think that would be warmer than linoleum or tile.

The hidden passage way sounds neat. ^.^

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RE: Having a house built...e ce - 12/18/2008 11:23:12 AM

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Even if it is cement you can install radiant heat in it, or on it. We are in the process of finishing a basement. Part of it will have, in floor, radiant heat. You only need to put it between the concrete and the finished floor surface. There are many awesome choices for vinyl flooring now that is attractive yet with the ease of clean, we expect from a vinyl floor.

There are many many options. If you use wood, and there will be bodily fluids spilled on it, you will want many many coats of polyurethane put on it to seal it. Otherwise you will have "whatever" soaking down into the cracks of your wood flooring. Ultimately.....yuck! Similarly with many varieties of stone. Even concrete you would need to seal well.

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RE: Having a house built...e ce - 12/18/2008 12:09:43 PM

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How come Scooby Doo comes to mind with the secret rooms and passages. I have planned on doing something like that for when i get my own house. A hidden playroom would be great, especially when you have kids.

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RE: Having a house built...e ce - 12/18/2008 12:36:03 PM

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Yea, just a thought.... A few drafting classes are not going to get you past all the building codes and such, nor will anyone sign off on it to get permits, or if new construction will insurance companies sign off on it because someone with a few drafting classes has a computer.

Create the design, then have someone actually make drawings that can be used for codes, building/construction and insurance.

There is a lot more to architecture, then a few drafting classes. The cost for a home design is not that great about 10% of the construction cost.

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RE: Having a house built...e ce - 12/18/2008 7:57:37 PM

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If I ever did that I would put a open shower area on one side of the room with tiles for wet play :-) Also if you want you can heat the tiles from below so it's nicer on the feet. I would use wood everywhere else, with cork or something on the walls to keep the noise down. From a supply store you can get a large size piece of sheet rubber that you may also want to consider depending on how you play to put under chair's or medical tables for cutting or needle play it's real easy to just wipe the blood dropping off of that.

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RE: Having a house built...e ce - 12/18/2008 10:24:56 PM

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If you are interested in hidden rooms and passages between walls. try to locate old plans for the Casa Loma in Toronto.
Radiant heat is a great idea, just remember one thing, if there is a section of your basement that you can do without, be sure it is large enough and you can descend it down about 2 feet below the footings. If you do this, be sure to have secondary footings installed before the floor is poured. Doing so will increase you head space from the minimum to just under 9 feet. Not only will this give the much needed space to have your four post bed, but will also provide you with extra head space for other nice dungeon furnishings.
If you put in radiant flooring, another thing to take into consideration is leveler is poured in over top and then whatever floor type you may prefer. It would be suggested that you stay away from polyurethanes since they give off unwanted gases as some people may develop industrial intolerance.
There are a few more things, the walls when you are wanting to insulate, be sure to seal the concrete face, this can be done with a non-toxic sealer called Blue Stuff, it creates moisture barrier before you install your studs, insulate with Roxul, mineral insulation, then drywall. You do not want the scent of mildew and mold spoiling your fun.
There are laminates and you may even want to go with bamboo flooring. Impact resistant, stain resistant and you do not have to worry about seepage between the cracks.
There is one that was seen quite a few years back by me. It was a dry cellar, by opening the door to enter the dry cellar, the entrance to the dungeon room becomes closed. While remaining in the dry cellar and close the door, the entrance to the dungeon room is revealed. Hiding something in plain sight is one of the rules of creating an illusion, also distraction and redirection.

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RE: Having a house built...e ce - 12/19/2008 2:11:32 AM

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Wow, this is a lot more information than I expected, so thanks to everyone who has posted.
To housesub4you: I had no intention of doing anything finalized, I just meant I had a basic concept of what is and isn't structurally feasible, and how to lay out the design of what can be done, but thanks for looking out.

Other than that, great ideas on the heated flooring, I am going to have to look that up. Right now I am working very conceptually, get images and textures of everything, as well as ideas of things like heated concrete or bamboo. Just trying to keep working on things; I am currently in Iraq and it put everything I was doing as far as buying the land on hold, so I feel like I need to keep making progress on some avenue. On the plus side, this will pay for a good chunk to get started.

Anyways, thanks for the tips everyone, gonna check all that stuff out. Didn't know there were so many architecturally savvy people around =D

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RE: Having a house built...e ce - 12/19/2008 12:54:10 PM

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I played in a dungeon in London once where the floor was coated in a rubber like material. It wasn't rubber per say, and it had the general underfeel of carpet (in terms of padding) There was a drain in the corner and the whole floor could get wet (they had a hose in there we played with, but that is a story for a different post).

I was never able to figure out what the material was / how they pulled it off. But it was the best dungeon floor I have ever seen bar none.

I know that doesn't help at all, but maybe it will spark the imagination of the more building minded on this board.

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RE: Having a house built...e ce - 12/19/2008 4:37:28 PM

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A hidden room would be awesome to have! Would keep the snooping guests out of the dungeon.

I would suggest discussing materials with the designer after you get a general idea what you desire from here. The suspension point in the ceiling should be rated for your wrought iron hanging bird cage. We all know how agitated those parrots can be. The floor should be designed to not be affected by any droppings that may occur. A space saving toilet could be useful in a small room off to one side. A combined toilet/sink in stainless steel such as those used in jail cells would not require much space. This room could also function as a handicap shower stall that permits the wheel chair to roll right into the stall with a floor drain. Don't forget to have many sturdy grab handles for safety and bondage. This way, you can accommodate your distant cousin that visits often.

Good luck with the design!

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RE: Having a house built...e ce - 12/19/2008 9:58:21 PM

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For flooring, consider rubber stable blocks: http://www.equestrian-essentials.co.uk/flooring.html
It's a good floor for rough sex. The rubber blocks are hard to damage; they're used in horse barns. Water won't hurt them, and you can put in a shower head and drain.

A fun option, if you're into it, would be a whole area of the room fixed up with shower heads and a power shower pump, so you could have wild, wet, messy sex on the floor.

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RE: Having a house built...e ce - 12/19/2008 10:27:25 PM

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Girl might know what it is. You describe it as rubber material buy feels like carpet beneath your feet. There is something of a similar material used for running tracks. Just have to remember where girl has seen it and ask the groundskeeper when girl gets a chance.
Master has been in construction for over 40 years and girl has labored for master through 17 of them. My dad was a roofer and girl has background in architectural and mechanical drafting.
Girl has been around construction to some degree all my life. Its in my blood to make things with my hands.

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RE: Having a house built...e ce - 1/23/2009 1:33:39 AM

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All I need to say is these secret passages can't be normal height. That makes them no fun at all. Then need to be like a foot too short to walk normally in them to make it more interesting and authentic. Almost as if it was a complete idiot that designed them too short. A normal height secret passageway is just a hallway in my book.

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RE: Having a house built...e ce - 1/23/2009 2:08:17 AM

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There a type of brick facing that might interest you. I don't like faux materials, and the facing was a good choice when I finished a cellar.

It's real brick, standard length and height, but only a half centimeter (quarter inch) thick. You can mount them with mortar or glue them in place and then use grout.

When I shopped, there was no cost savings compared to standard brick but they were easy to work with.

If you're lining exterior walls, real brick adds insulating properties.

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