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Pneumatic Bondage Latch anyone? - 12/18/2008 7:31:08 PM   
JRiddle


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Bondage fantasies vary. At this time, mine lean toward electrical/mechanical release. While a trustworthy person would be the best release method, this is not currently available to me. In the past, a variety of methods have kept the keys from me for a little while. Recently, a new concept crossed my mind. Use an electro-mechanical device to control the release instead of the keys for release. One example of such a release was provided by Irishm57 on these boards. Several times, I have seen fairly large electric magnets used to hold the subject in place. This was my inspiration.

My concept is simple. If electric magnets can hold acceptably, why not use pneumatic (compressed air, measured in Pounds per Square Inch or PSI) latches. This could result in several improvements. The first is holding potential. A small electric solenoid valve can easily control several gallons of compressed air at over 150 PSI (10 kg/cm^2). The latch could use an air cylinder to move a latch pin, deadbolt, or other mechanism to hold a person bound. The latch can be made to hold more securely than a pricey electric magnet and do so with a lower current draw. Air cylinders have excellent mechanical advantage and power to weight ratio only exceeded by hydraulic systems (1500 PSI and above). The reliability when used in industrial applications is staggering. With redundancy, risk is reduced. By ensuring all likely failures result in release, safety is maximized. The final improvement is greater separation of electricity from the bound subject. No electrical devices are directly connected to the sub. The price is not bad either. The air cylinders cost $15 each and the air valves were $30 each. For a total of about $100 (the cost of one magnet) I have 2 functional latches. With this design, the sub is held securely until instantly released without fumbling with keys at the appointed time.

My air cylinders require above 30 PSI of positive air pressure to extend. A heavy steel spring retracts the piston rod. In industrial applications, air cylinders can last for over 100,000 cycles. The most likely failure is a small air leak. If not repaired, a small air leak will eventually result in a major air leak which causes the piston to not extend. These failures of the air cylinder will result in air leaks and early release. Only through extreme long term negligence and abuse in industrial settings does the piston and rod fail to move. The piston moves until the lack of oil and excessive debris cause the piston to seize up. A seized piston is both preventable and avoidable. By careful inspection, cleaning, and lubrication, this can be avoided. By using 2 cylinders (one for each wrist latch), a failure here is even less likely to fail to release.

The air valves are also doubled up to prevent a failure to release. The air valves require 12 volts at 250 mA to extend the air cylinders. Each valve acts like a 2 way valve. The common connection goes to either the normally open, or normally closed path controlled by the electric solenoid. By connecting the common ports of both valves together and to the pistons, both latches will always work in unison. With a muffler on the normally open port, no electricity should always result in the pistons moving to or staying in the retracted position. Both normally closed ports are connected to a common air supply tank. If the valves ever operate opposite each other, the air supply will end up getting routed to a muffler and vent out rapidly. This may be caused by either a valve or electrical failure, but will always result in release.

Additional safety precautions can be taken. I have an intentional small air leak to ensure that the air supply will eventually be depleted. The valves receive their electrical power from a 7 AH sealed 12 volt battery. This power is controlled by relays connected to multiple appliance timers. Everything is redundant. The current air supply tank is 7 gallon, but will be reduced to less than one soon. The pressure is regulated to only 60 PSI. This is just above the necessary pressure to swiftly operated the valves and pistons. In the future, mechanical wall thermostats will be used to interrupt the current in case the room temperature gets too high or low. Too low is bad due to hypothermia concerns. Too high is bad in case of fire. Both thermostats have been purchased. It is only a matter of wiring them into the circuit and verifying correct operation. With these precautions, I hope to never become bound permanently.

One interesting oddity of this design is the power in which the latches operate. A medium thump is heard. The jolt can be felt throughout the sawhorse. When they engage or disengage, the subject knows it instantly.


Pictures of the rough draft may be seen at this link. Sorry for hosting them on such a slow picture hosting service. In the future, I will not use image shack.
http://profile.imageshack.us/user/J_Riddle




Please do not focus on the lack of adult supervision in it's use. This is a risk that I seek to mitigate to the lowest possible level, but will continue to accept until other options become available. If you can avoid this risk, please do so.

This idea came from one person without much input from others. Since I designed and built it, I may be biased towards it and could have overlooked important details in my enthusiasm. This is why I am posting the idea here. Please critique the concept and design. Any suggestions for better safety or improved function are welcome. Thank you for your time.

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RE: Pneumatic Bondage Latch anyone? - 12/19/2008 5:18:08 AM   
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I have absolutely nothing constructive whatsoever to add, I just wanted to say that I want one.
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It's a really well thought out design, nicely done.
 

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RE: Pneumatic Bondage Latch anyone? - 12/19/2008 12:50:26 PM   
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I want the ability to remote control one

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RE: Pneumatic Bondage Latch anyone? - 12/19/2008 3:18:09 PM   
JRiddle


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Thank you kitteninacage for the complement.


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ORIGINAL: MsVanessaNY

I want the ability to remote control one

That would be really nice! So much easier to control one with a remote. Press button and bound subject is released. Press another button and slave is bound. No need to worry about timers, redundancy, and fail safe. If the sub is not released by remote, you only need to walk over and manually release him.


I welcome any questions, comments, or concerns about the air latches. Does the air latches have possible applications that intrigue you? Is compressed air acceptable for use with bondage restraints?

Another question of mine is other methods to set up the latch mechanism. In my current design, an air cylinder 1" in diameter and about 6" long is used to move a 4' sliding pin latch. The air cylinder is a 3/4 inch bore by 1 inch stroke unit which is held in place at the rod end with a half inch nut. The rod has about a half inch of 1/4" threads to attach it to the movable object. The pushing force is 40-60 pounds. The retracting force is much less. This is recessed into a 2X4 roughly 14 inches long. Other latch designs would be nice. I would like to try using the air cylinder in a round spreader bar or a yoke. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

< Message edited by JRiddle -- 12/19/2008 3:19:47 PM >


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RE: Pneumatic Bondage Latch anyone? - 12/22/2008 12:27:17 AM   
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I like the concept.  It appeals to my mechanical nature for sure.  My only concern is that a 7 gallon tank with a small calibrated leak might take too long for release if the lack of power constitutes an emergency.  Have you timed a no-power release?

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RE: Pneumatic Bondage Latch anyone? - 12/22/2008 12:01:36 PM   
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I had once thought of air restraints when i was making the fuckme chair with the built in ball stretcher. There was really only 2 things that annoyed me. to make things portable , well to apoint portable, quick connect couplings would be needed , but they leak and the hissing noise is annoying. And the air compressor, even if you use just a supply tank like they sell for inflating tires, they need to be recharged and starting the air compressor on a saturday night at 11 can annoy the neighbors.

But the design you mention is nice. I like the idea you are using 12 volt solenoids, very safe for rough play. Plus a 50 dollar key chain remote kit from Carl's kits and you could remote the solenoids. And air is great for restraints. I had almost done it, i bought a piece of 2 inch wide aluminum and bent a form around my waist and wrists , so the air cyclender could just swing it around and lock the person sitting in the chair tight.  Until the noise became a minor obsticle , for me anyway.

understeer , they make valves that have a vent port, so if the power is remove they can vent via a flow control , so releasing on a power off can be controlled time wise very easily.






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RE: Pneumatic Bondage Latch anyone? - 12/22/2008 1:54:50 PM   
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I figured that was the case, I was simply curious as to whether or not he's timed the release.  I haven't played much with these types of pneumatics, but I'm assuming that the way he has it configured, the slow leak and a 7 gallon air supply leaves a lot of volume to reach the release pressure.

I'm under the assumption that this would not be an instantaneous release.

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RE: Pneumatic Bondage Latch anyone? - 12/22/2008 5:06:38 PM   
JRiddle


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quote:

ORIGINAL: understeer

I like the concept. It appeals to my mechanical nature for sure. My only concern is that a 7 gallon tank with a small calibrated leak might take too long for release if the lack of power constitutes an emergency. Have you timed a no-power release?

No-power release is instant!

The 7 gallon tank was a concern. I now have a 18" long 2" diameter steel pipe with end caps and connection fittings to use for the air supply tank. The volume is about 0.29 gallon. It has a tire valve installed for easy inflation and a pressure gauge for safety. Ace hardware sells the tire valves with 1/8' or 1/4' pipe threads for easy installation for about $3.

As for electrical power, an unexpected loss of mains power is on my list of emergencies. I would hate to be tied up in Florida if the power to my Air Conditioner was interrupted.



quote:

ORIGINAL: Irishm57

...There was really only 2 things that annoyed me. to make things portable , well to apoint portable, quick connect couplings would be needed , but they leak and the hissing noise is annoying. And the air compressor, even if you use just a supply tank like they sell for inflating tires, they need to be recharged and starting the air compressor on a saturday night at 11 can annoy the neighbors.

...I had almost done it... Until the noise became a minor obsticle , for me anyway.

understeer , they make valves that have a vent port, so if the power is remove they can vent via a flow control , so releasing on a power off can be controlled time wise very easily.

Irishm57, I like your thinking. For the valves, mine function how you describe but do not have any flow control. It would be quieter if they did.

Your list of drawbacks is not entirely accurate. The quick couplers do not leak air when new. After getting worn by industrial debris and use, they start to leak. Purchase good ones for longer life. For connecting the air lines on the valves and air cylinders, I used 1/8" nylon air line with plastic quick couplers (push in on retaining ring to release). These make disassembly of the latches very fast. A good air compressor at 11PM would be an issue. I have a cheap 2 gallon compressor from Wal-Mart that is relatively quiet which I have used after midnight without complaints. With my new air tank, I only need a good manual bicycle pump to refill. It has less volume than a mountain bike tire. Each cycle of the air cylinders is only about 1 cubic inch of air released. At 60 PSI, it should allow plenty of air for pre-use inspection and play for one session.



quote:

ORIGINAL: understeer

I figured that was the case, I was simply curious as to whether or not he's timed the release.  I haven't played much with these types of pneumatics, but I'm assuming that the way he has it configured, the slow leak and a 7 gallon air supply leaves a lot of volume to reach the release pressure.

I'm under the assumption that this would not be an instantaneous release.


Understeer, good point! The air leak was intended as the last failsafe. As such, it does not have to release at a specific time, but should be reasonable and tested. The very small tank (0.29 Gal) takes about 18 hours to release. I never did test to find out how long it would take with the seven gallon tank. This was a huge oversight on my part. I shall not use the big tank alone anymore.


Thank you both for the replies.


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RE: Pneumatic Bondage Latch anyone? - 12/23/2008 10:14:10 AM   
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JRiddle,
Also if you are getting into air related toys. One thing i started to make with a spring return air cylender,, a spanking machine.Thing is you might/would need more volumn and pressure than the small compressor you mentioned.  I had to shelve it for a short time , due to i ran out of room in my toy room




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RE: Pneumatic Bondage Latch anyone? - 12/23/2008 3:48:22 PM   
JRiddle


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Nice idea! An air operated spanking machine. I agree that compressor volume and pressure could be a problem. With lower swing rates and power, it may not be too bad. A 2" D by 6" stroke cylinder only needs 0.08 gal of air per cycle. At 150 PSI, that is 450 pounds of force. Not sure how that would equate to felt paddle force due to leverage and momentum factors. A smaller piston may have enough force to bruise with 60 PSI. I would try a 3/4 inch piston first. A 10 gallon tire inflation tank may wear out the sub before running out of pressure. With more air tank volume, more time is allowed between refills. A large air tank may be filled during the day to be used that night. If enough air is stored, it is possible to not run out of air during play. The major limits is cost and space available.

Since I am also using compressed air for automotive work, a larger compressor is not entirely out of the question. I already have a larger 5 gallon, 115 PSI, 3 CFM compressor to run impact guns and cut-off wheels. In the future, a light industrial air compressor shall be purchased. The cost of the compressor did not factor into my bondage equipment cost for this reason.

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