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ORIGINAL: missturbation

I know when i think of reverence personally i don't hold it in a bad light at all. I see absolutely nothing wrong with regarding something / someone with respect, slight awe. I also see nothing wrong in holding someone / something in higher reverence than something / someone else. After all isn't that just personal preference?
 

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The truth (for me, in my opinion, experience) is that for reasons i cannot quite fathom out, people with higher pain thresholds are always being pulled down in some shape or form.
There is the old question of 'what is a high pain threshold?' Everytime i see high pain threshold mentioned someone says 'well whos to say what is high anyway?' I don't see the same response when someone claims to have a low pain threshold.

That's because who IS to say what a *high pain threshold* is....as everyone's pain tolerance will differ.

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I think there is a certain amount of jealousy, envy, awe, intolerance, non-understanding and judgement aimed at those with high pain thresholds and to be honest it bugs the hell out of me. I know we say this all the time but for a community who claims to be different and to celebrate those differences, it sure sucks to be different at times.

And yet you get a lot of mail saying the opposite and admiring you for it. You'll never get the universal opinion that playing heavily is worthy of reverence.

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I may well have been born with a high pain tolerance but that doesn't mean i don't work at it too. I'm just like anyone who pushes their limits, reaches for the stars, tries to improve.

Many people do it with all sorts of things......taking needles or being pierced can be a huge personal limit......few people expect or look to be to be revered for it though.

 
Could you show me anywhere where i said i or others like me expected or looked to be revered for their pain tolerance? I think you'll find what i actually said is that there are people out there who do revere high pain tolerance and who is anyone to tell them they shouldn't.

The overwhelming amount of posts support that. The *high pain threshold bashing brigade* is conspicuous in it's absence.

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The truth (for me, in my opinion, experience) is that for reasons i cannot quite fathom out, people with higher pain thresholds are always being pulled down in some shape or form.
There is the old question of 'what is a high pain threshold?' Everytime i see high pain threshold mentioned someone says 'well whos to say what is high anyway?' I don't see the same response when someone claims to have a low pain threshold.

That's because who IS to say what a *high pain threshold* is....as everyone's pain tolerance will differ.

Ok but could you tell me why the same questions are not not asked when it comes to low tolerance? After all who's to say what a low pain tolerance is?

No..I can't tell you. I don't know why either is bashed but it happens.  People have opinions on lots of things....... the nappy-wearers/lovers complain that THEY get a bad press......Adult babies say the same. For most kinky activities there'll be someone that thinks you're a twat.
 

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There are just as many people having a field day bashing others for their *fluffy* activities

I personally have not come across this but i have no doubt it happens. It's not right, each to their own, right?

Each to their own.....and still it will be commented on.
 
[quote] People tend to play far more heavily in private, than in clubs, most people I know tone their play down when they are in a club and for most of them it isn't the time or the place.

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I think there is a certain amount of jealousy, envy, awe, intolerance, non-understanding and judgement aimed at those with high pain thresholds and to be honest it bugs the hell out of me. I know we say this all the time but for a community who claims to be different and to celebrate those differences, it sure sucks to be different at times.

And yet you get a lot of mail saying the opposite and admiring you for it. You'll never get the universal opinion that playing heavily is worthy of reverence.

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ORIGINAL: missturbation
 KoM will always hold Kyra and Alandra in higher reverence than me because (insert reason here

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ORIGINAL: persephonee

Oh, but they really should, KoM...ya lucky bastahd....
But seriously, and honestly, i dont have the pleasure of knowing alandra at all at the moment, but i have had the immense pleasure of talking with kyra more than once, with your permission, and she is an amazing and 'awesome' woman! Everyone is awe-inspiring in their own way, and you have two of them at your feet...so how awe inspiring is that?....Happy Holidays from my family to yours.

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Why is there such stigma and disregard and dislike for those who do have higher pain thresholds?
 

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

Why is there such stigma and disregard and dislike for those who do have higher pain thresholds?
 

One word sweetling, JEALOUSY. Weather they will either admit it or not, or are even aware of it they suffer from the TALL POPPY SYNDROME in which they take inordinate pleasure in  tearing some folk down or belittling them and their ideas. Australia traditionally suffers from this in plague proportions

I really am banging my head against a brick wall with this one ain't i?

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The stigma, disregard and dislike you mention hasn't been highlighted in either of the threads that I've seen.

It might be in the circles you move in but I've not come across it in any amount that would raise much comment.

Most people in both threads have actually said the equiv. of * Each to their own*  *not a big deal* etc.

agirl

I think the best we can do here is agree to disagree. There is no point my questioning your opinion as you don't answer

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ORIGINAL: missturbation
The whole intention of this thread was really to ask 'who is anyone to say what others should hold in high regard?

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ORIGINAL: Aszhrae

To place someone in such reverence is the next step to worship. Unless they are ascended, girl is not likely to be in awe of any human being unless of course they can pull a live rabbit out of their ass.

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The stigma, disregard and dislike you mention hasn't been highlighted in either of the threads that I've seen.

It might be in the circles you move in but I've not come across it in any amount that would raise much comment.

Most people in both threads have actually said the equiv. of * Each to their own*  *not a big deal* etc.

agirl

I think the best we can do here is agree to disagree. There is no point my questioning your opinion as you don't answer

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ORIGINAL: missturbation
The whole intention of this thread was really to ask 'who is anyone to say what others should hold in high regard?

And who is anyone to say what others shouldn't hold in high regard?

and then.. who is anyone to say that one shouldn't tell others what they should hold in high regard?

of course... who is anyone to say that one should tell others what they should hold in high regard?

But then... who is anyone to say that one shouldn't tell others what they shouldn't hold in high regard?

and don't forget... who is anyone to say that one shouldn't tell others what they should hold in high regard?

mmmmmm the complexity of this issue well awe inspiring.

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I haven't doubted that there are people that do it, anymore than I would doubt that there are people that knock all sorts of things regarding any bdsm activities pain, kink etc.

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ORIGINAL: missturbation
The whole intention of this thread was really to ask 'who is anyone to say what others should hold in high regard?

And who is anyone to say what others shouldn't hold in high regard?

and then.. who is anyone to say that one shouldn't tell others what they should hold in high regard?

of course... who is anyone to say that one should tell others what they should hold in high regard?

But then... who is anyone to say that one shouldn't tell others what they shouldn't hold in high regard?

and don't forget... who is anyone to say that one shouldn't tell others what they should hold in high regard?

mmmmmm the complexity of this issue well awe inspiring.

Such sarcasm. I thought it would be beneath you to be honest KoM.
Whilst it may not be a complex issue, let's face it very many issues are.
 

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I have answered. I've answered quite clearly. 

 
Yes you chose to answer those of my questions that suited you.
 

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Instead of continuing to ask 'Why, oh why?'... why not accept that this is what people do about all sorts of things and be done with it?

 
Ok well i reckon that you should accept my definition of abuse and be done with it. Don't debate it with me, just accept it. Ok?
 

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Few people seem to be disputing that others can be spiteful or silly about these things.........just that it really isn't that important.

 
Really? Listening to many here they debate it even happens, yourself included. What you and i find important ovbiously does not match. This is an important issue for me, i experience it.