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Surrenderwithin -> Preemptive service (12/22/2008 3:14:52 PM)

I posted a topic in the "Ask a Master forum" about preemptive service. However, my question for the bottoms/submissives/etc. is slightly different.

Do you enjoy offering preemptive service or do you prefer to wait for a specific order to be given or request made. Why do you have that preference?
Maggi



Rayne58 -> RE: Preemptive service (12/22/2008 3:39:54 PM)

We've been together for five years, so I pretty much know what is required and when.  But I still ask what He would like to eat though, because sometimes His tummy is a bit icky and He won't be up for a three course meal when a cheese and tomato sandwich will do [;)]



chamberqueen -> RE: Preemptive service (12/22/2008 3:49:37 PM)

I like a combination of the two.  I like to surprise my Master by doing something special for him, yet other times I am very comfortable following specific instructions.  He tends to give very general instructions and to let me use my creativity to complete the task so I get a nice blend of both.  



CatdeMedici -> RE: Preemptive service (12/22/2008 4:04:13 PM)

I know this was for subs, but any sub of Mine better learn to anticipate My needs--that's how they grow in value.



CalifChick -> RE: Preemptive service (12/22/2008 4:54:59 PM)

I have been performing anticipatory service my entire life, vanilla or non-vanilla.  If I don't know how someone likes something, I ask. 

The word "preemptive" bothers me, because to me it means doing something in order to take choices away from someone else.  Anticipatory service, on the other hand, is paying attention to someone's needs so that it does not come to their own attention that something is lacking. 

Cali



lockmeupplease -> RE: Preemptive service (12/22/2008 6:20:48 PM)

After awhile, I am pretty sure of what my Mistress wants to be done and look to please by doing those things without being asked.  I think it's hard to go wrong anticipating their needs.



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Preemptive service (12/22/2008 6:24:50 PM)

I don't, and it's gotten me in trouble.  My view is "Until you specifically train me on how you want it, I don't want to risk moving your stuff so you can't find it or messing with your system however it is"  I find it respectful of their space and time.

But other subs have cut me down for it.  Maybe they didn't have picky ex owners like I have.



Lordandmaster -> RE: Preemptive service (12/22/2008 6:33:45 PM)

I like "anticipatory service" better than "preemptive service."  "Preemptive service" sounds like you're about to send in the troops.

And yes, what dom doesn't enjoy a little anticipatory service?  "Hey, how did you know I was planning to buy some snap hooks?"

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

I have been performing anticipatory service my entire life, vanilla or non-vanilla.



Mercnbeth -> RE: Preemptive service (12/22/2008 6:41:44 PM)

quote:

Do you enjoy offering preemptive service or do you prefer to wait for a specific order to be given or request made.


it depends.
 
pre-emptive service, to this slave, equates to trained to know how He wants it.
 
e.g., this slave knows how He wants His morning coffee or His come-home-in-the-evening-Monday-through-Friday-ritual.  she doesn't need explicit instruction on that.

if it is regarding something spontaneous and random, she looks to Him and waits for His instruction.

quote:

Why do you have that preference?

His pleasure and desires are job #1---He dominates, in our relationship.



kiwisub12 -> RE: Preemptive service (12/22/2008 7:29:46 PM)

I know what he likes in the way of food and beverages - i always try to get what he likes at the grocery store.

As for what he wants, when he wants it - he asks or tells me what he wants - and that is the way i like it - i don't have to try to read his mind, it isn't made my responsibility to try, so i don't fail. As it is, he is 100% pleased with my service, because it is what he wants, when he wants it.

Other than that, meals and house cleaning are my responsibility, so i neither want or receive direction with when and what i do.



Vinmier -> RE: Preemptive service (12/22/2008 7:49:54 PM)

I prefer both. There are many things I know my Lady likes, and I can do them to make her more comfortable. I also like when she asks certain tasks of me as well, because it tells me she likes how I perform said tasks. [:)]



stella41b -> RE: Preemptive service (12/23/2008 3:10:48 AM)

I enjoy providing the sort of service which my dominant requires however which way it's required because that is what is likely to keep me in the relationship more than anything. Other than that I have no preference, because whichever way I get to express myself through submission.

I kind of figure that I have a brain, eyes, ears and a tongue, all of which help me communicate, and that in prioiritized ortder (1) I know what I'm doing (2) my dominant knows what I'm meant to be doing (3) I'm pretty good at making a guess when either (1) or (2) don't apply.



sula -> RE: Preemptive service (12/23/2008 3:17:10 AM)

Both!  Anticipating His needs, wants, desires and providing them un-bidden goes with the territory (for me).  As does being responsive to specific requests or orders.  i can read Master's moods and nuances pretty well, and would feel remiss if He had to always state what He wants.  He would likely not be too pleased with that either...

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you all!!!!

sula



sub4hire -> RE: Preemptive service (12/23/2008 7:02:08 AM)

I can finish a sentence for him at this point in our relationship.  I know by looking at him if he is happy or hurting inside.  I also know how to cheer him up in a flash if he is down.  So, yes I anticipate his needs then fulfill them.

Yet at the same time change is nice now and then.  To throw me a curve ball so to speak. 



NuevaVida -> RE: Preemptive service (12/23/2008 7:27:07 AM)

Count me in amongst those who prefer "anticipatory" to preemptive.  I came to know my former owner well enough to be able to anticipate what he might want and when, at times.  He enjoyed this as it made him feel well tended to.  I'd say my error rate in such guesses was less than 1%, and in those cases he still appreciated the effort behind the actions.

It was never a matter of what I enjoyed more.  I enjoyed pleasing and satisfying him, in whatever form that came - anticipatory or specifically instructed.

With the man I'm seeing now, I don't know him well enough to anticipate much, but there will be times when we're together that I'll ask..."Would you like....such n such?"  But I won't just up and do something.



FlamingRedhead -> RE: Preemptive service (12/23/2008 8:03:55 AM)

I prefer to wait for a specific order to be given or request made because I'm not a mind reader.  I don't know, until he tells me, how he likes things done in his house.  I don't know what is okay to touch and what is not.  I don't know where anything goes.  I'm also not what one would describe as service oriented, so if he wants a refill on his drink or something, he needs to ask for it or set the empty glass in front of me.  Now, once I know how he wants his laundry done or what he expects me to do when I come over, I don't have to keep being reminded....except maybe the empty glass thing because I don't drink many fluids myself so.....



RCdc -> RE: Preemptive service (12/23/2008 3:51:11 PM)

It is no my place to preempt any decisions.  It's not my place to try and anticipate either.
I am instructed, learn, know and do.
 
the.dark.



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