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Super empathy


I am a dom(me) and super empathic
  10% (5)
I am a dom(me) and empathic
  20% (10)
I am a dom(me) and not empathic
  4% (2)
I am a true sub and super empathic
  12% (6)
I am a true sub and empathic
  12% (6)
I am a true sub and not empathic
  2% (1)
I am a natural slave and super empathic
  14% (7)
I am a natural slave and empathic
  6% (3)
I am a natural slave and not empathic
  0% (0)
I am none of the above, but super empathic
  18% (9)


Total Votes : 49
(last vote on : 12/27/2008 3:29:35 AM)
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CalifChick -> RE: Super empathy (12/23/2008 5:13:43 PM)

I have found that many people who think they have empathy, actually have delusions.


Cali




everhope -> RE: Super empathy (12/23/2008 5:19:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rule

These none of the above are interesting, as is the one super empathic slave and dom(me). Please do mail me and tell me what your nature / psychology is.


am i understanding you correctly? you think from a sentence or two you have the ability to determine, if another is empathic?




LumusandtheLady -> RE: Super empathy (12/23/2008 5:30:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sirsholly

i can be empathetic...but i also am a firm believer in taking responsibility for your actions.

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and aren't the firemen happy about that...




girlygurl -> RE: Super empathy (12/23/2008 5:32:22 PM)

What I would define as super empathy, yes, I have it.


girly




LumusandtheLady -> RE: Super empathy (12/23/2008 5:48:12 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: girlygurl

What I would define as super empathy, yes, I have it.

girly


In the ancient Sumerian, "super empathy" translates to "vomit play".

I never knew you were into that.

*makes the symbol of the evil eye*





CaringandReal -> RE: Super empathy (12/23/2008 6:40:09 PM)

Can I answer for my former master or do I have to answer for myself? [sm=marionette.gif]




girlygurl -> RE: Super empathy (12/23/2008 7:34:11 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LumusandtheLady

quote:

ORIGINAL: girlygurl

What I would define as super empathy, yes, I have it.

girly


In the ancient Sumerian, "super empathy" translates to "vomit play".

I never knew you were into that.

*makes the symbol of the evil eye*




Ummmmm then NO! I can't say I've ever tossed my cookies for another... Now, that being said, watching someone toss their cookies has made me gag? Does that count? [8D]




Rule -> RE: Super empathy (12/24/2008 2:03:00 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: everhope
quote:

ORIGINAL: Rule
These none of the above are interesting, as is the one super empathic slave and dom(me). Please do mail me and tell me what your nature / psychology is.

am i understanding you correctly? you think from a sentence or two you have the ability to determine, if another is empathic?

Indeed, you are not understanding me correctly. The poll asks respondents to assess themselves their degree of empathy.
 
Considering that half of the respondents assert that they are super empathic, I must assume that either mostly only super empathic people participate in the poll, or that most of those who have clicked a super empathy option do have high empathy, but erroneously perceive themselves as super empathic.




BlackPhx -> RE: Super empathy (12/24/2008 7:43:57 AM)

My thoughts..YMMV
Many who walk through life have empathy, the ability to touch other lives and know their pain, their joy, and share in it. To feel for them. We do it with family and friends constantly, and we do it on these fora to some degree regularly, but with the aid of their words, what they say and how they say it.  Empathy is part of what allows us to live and function in a social environment.

Those who lack empathy completely often find themselves at odds with society. They walk through life untouched by feelings for anyone other than themselves. The sexual sadist who is fully paraphillic is one example. He feels nothing for his victim and rarely chooses victims who will enjoy what he does and does not see them as anything more than toys to be used up and broken, perhaps permanently. Generally speaking they tend to be classified as sociopathic personalities and/or serial killers.

Others who are not quite so far along that line may not have fully developed empathy but they still have some small amount that allow them to temper their desires with the survival (mental, physical and emotional) of their partners.

A super empath as you term it (Highly empathetic is how I would term it) would be someone who not only has the ability to feel for others but one who can actually FEEL for others. They can walk in a room and tell you who is feeling sad despite the outward behavior of the person, who is trembling internally with joy, who presents a clear and present danger for themselves or others, who is ill, etc. To me, in this life choice they are the Dom/ina who can dance with someone they have never touched before and know just how deep, how far that person needs to go, when to lighten up, to hit harder, they know where their dance partner is at all times, without asking. They can FEEL it, not just ask questions or watch the body. There are subs and masochists who will cry and protest everything that is done all the while loving it and needing to go even further..such Dom/ina are a blessing for them, as they can take them deeper, knowing that what is on the surface does not reflect the truth of what is within. They are also the sub or slave who can feed off of and feed into as well the Dominants need and go far beyond levels they would normally. The NEED within them to make the other feel the best they possibly can fuels their ability to do so.

These highly empathetic persons need to learn early in childhood to protect themselves to some degree. They need to learn to shield to keep from burning out, because they will continue to give of themselves until there is nothing left, their last dime, the shirt off their back, the last dregs of their energy and emotion.  They will run and do for others until they drop in exhaustion because to even out and take care of  the moods and needs of those around them becomes the driving force in their lives. Their need to have people like them, to do for others, to say the right thing, to be all things to all people around them will burn them out as surely as a gasoline shower and a lit match will, if they do not learn to shield, to stop and take care of their own needs as well.

Just my .50 for what it is worth... Your Mileage of Course may vary

poenkitten




LaTigresse -> RE: Super empathy (12/24/2008 7:58:35 AM)

BlackPhx, your post really struck a nerve with me. I think that at some point I was super sensitive to others emotions. Whether that is super empathy or not, I don't know.

I know that I can instantly "feel" the emotion of people I am open with. I think that you've hit on a major reason I have cut myself off from some people (like my mother) because their stuff was just too much. Too exhausting. I could not continue to feel everyone elses stuff.

I think this sensitivity is why I avoid large groups and tend to quickly pass judgement on people. I can feel what kind of person they are and whether or not they will either project negative energy that I can't stand (it's almost like a really foul smell) or that they will be vampires of a sort, constantly trying to suck energy off of me. I think this is also how I base my "drama meter" of individuals.

Thank you for the bit of introspection you just gave me. It will help me to explain, yet again, why I won't be spending time with certain people over the holidays.




BlackPhx -> RE: Super empathy (12/24/2008 8:38:49 AM)

I am so glad you have learned to shield LaTigresse, it is a very hard trick to learn to do when everything within you says reach out and help. The hardest lesson I think is learning you can't fix everything for everyone...sigh.. I still try.

poenkitten




Aszhrae -> RE: Super empathy (12/24/2008 11:24:54 AM)

Thank you for that BlackPhx.

Who is the individual to determine the extent of another individuals gifts. If nothing more than to stifle or instill doubt and thus eliminating such a gift as empathy. Replies are met with skepticism.

Reading someone's emotions as if they are book in the library, to me is not simple empathy.
It is a form of awareness and sensitivity that takes a lot of practice to be able to divine how another person is feeling simply by analyzing the amount of consonants, vowels, words chosen and the use of punctuation.
To know how another was feeling when their picture was taken at that very moment.
To feel the emotions within the music heard rather than simply listening to it.
Then of course there always is the touch of an object and the emotions that went into the making of an object fabricated by an artisan's hand.
In Chi Kung at the mystic end of the spectrum you are taught to be aware, to be sensitive to the pain of others. To understand and to focus, to displace your chi and transfer it to your hands for the purpose of restoring the flow of chi and to heal. You learn to be aware of the affects of how certain teas influence individual emotions, how certain aromas can also influence an individual's emotional state.

Just an example of empathic focus: meditating and focusing on a simple tree, losing my self in my focus, centering my emotions, an old acquaintance comes along and breaks one of the main limbs away and it felt like someone had just taken my arm and pulled it from its socket. I cried in reaction to the pain.

When my first mistress and my self would engage ourselves in feral play. I remember feeling her pleasure for having scratched me deeply and how much that pain aroused and instilled within me pleasure that I shared with my mistress. It was instinctive, it was primordial, reasoning was lost to us, our hearts were one in that moment of raw empathy.

It annoys me sometimes to think how many good people that had the potential to be great people just because someone comes along and says something really stupid, 'You will never be this because you will only ever be this.'
There is a reason most people ignore their first brain, because to understand where they come from, just might be to much of the truth than they can accept.

Your own sensitivities and awareness should be your own concern. Strengthening them adds so much more to the relationship between D or M and their pet, sub or slave.




ResidentSadist -> RE: Super empathy (12/24/2008 3:31:18 PM)

-empathy
I am empathetic, more so than average. But, I think that is because of my intellect and powers of awareness, not some state of "hyper emotional sensitivity" which is my personal interpretation of your use of the term  “super empathetic".  I think you have to somewhat empathetic to enjoy sadism, otherwise you do not “feel” their suffering.

-dominance
I am very, very Dominant in that it is not just my relationship role but my personality as well.  A “natural” leader so to speak.  I am a real live macho-man for whom lesbians convert, submissives squirt and Domme’s hop the fence to switch sides.  However, my measure of dominance comes from others like me that recognize in our traits that we are birds of a feather.
quote:

ORIGINAL: Rule
I want to know: are you super empathic? And if so, what is your position on the dominance scale?







Raechard -> RE: Super empathy (12/24/2008 4:00:03 PM)

I'm a Switch with MegaEmpathy.
 
MegaEmpathy is SuperEmpathy x 1000.




Aszhrae -> RE: Super empathy (12/24/2008 4:41:18 PM)

I believe you RS, you would have to be in order to gauge your sub or slaves reaction and behavior towards your attentions.

girl.azzh




ResidentSadist -> RE: Super empathy (12/24/2008 5:11:53 PM)

Yes... especially the second part of the definition for empathy.  It applies very strongly for me in a successful relationship or scene.  However, I don’t feel I “super identify” with anything about my slave.  I do feel I am very aware.  It’s more like focus and awareness than empathy.  Because awareness and understanding are often confused, I think people feel I am extremely empathetic when in fact it is more my powers of observation at work than my empathy.  I am by no means cold hearted and as I said before, I am more empathetic than the average bear.   
Whether it is a scene, relationship matters or emotions, I have to be very observant to know what state of mind my slave is in so I can stay connected and evoke the reactions I wish. 

empathy:  “Identification with and understanding of another's situation, feelings, and motives.”
quote:

ORIGINAL: Aszhrae

I believe you RS, you would have to be in order to gauge your sub or slaves reaction and behavior towards your attentions.

girl.azzh





beargonewild -> RE: Super empathy (12/24/2008 5:49:56 PM)

"Empathy is the capacity to recognize or understand another's state of mind or emotion. It is often characterized as the ability to "put oneself into another's shoes", or in some way experience the outlook or emotions of another being within oneself. Empathy does not necessarily imply compassion, or empathic concern because this capacity can be present in context of compassionate or cruel behavior."

Going by the above definition, I could classify myself under that definition. The problem lies in the fact that I can not accurately rate the degree simply because I have nothing to which I can compare my level to a standard norm or base level. Granted in time I had learned to temper this quality and do view this being sometimes a blessing yet more often it's a curse. Based upon this, I threw my vote among the 14% who identify as sub and empathic.




BitaTruble -> RE: Super empathy (12/24/2008 5:55:11 PM)

Just call me tofu .. I pick up the flavor of what I'm mixed with at any given time which is why I strive to be around happy people rather than depressive personalities and just say 'no' to drama. I'd rather break down walls than have to build them to protect myself from the emotions of others. Small doses.. it's okay, but as a constant or continual state of being, it just hurts too much sometimes so I cut it off at the knees.   




LinnaeaBorealis -> RE: Super empathy (12/24/2008 6:32:02 PM)

My empathic nature has little to do with awareness & focus.  In fact I need to use focus to tune some pain of others down, to filter it.  I can get blindsided, like one day when I saw about my jillionth road kill, a deer.  I looked at it & felt a force come back to me & instantly burst into tears.  This has never been my reaction to seeing road kill.  My explanation was that this deer wasn't quite dead or had died moments before & the essence which made it deer & caused it to feel was still hovering.

As a child, I wanted to be a nurse.  Then one day my sister pushed a crochet hook into her finger.  I asked the Dr if I could watch & he was happy to let me do that.  First he explained what he would do in order to remove the hook without too much tissue along with it.  I felt the pain envelop my body & said I would pass.  I don't get sick or faint, I just hurt everywhere.  There are certain images that I avoid having in my brain.  Certain energies that I studiously avoid.

I have been able on occasion to take another's pain/illness through my body & out, thereby encouraging healing.  If I don't focus to make sure I'm not doing this willy-nilly, I will end up in a padded room!!




MistressXahDee -> RE: Super empathy (12/24/2008 11:08:08 PM)

Dominant and super empathetic. I am a super sadist as well; the feelings I get from a subs tense personage, yum.




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