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SirDarkside357 -> RE: **New Rule** Keeps fakes at bay... (1/1/2006 9:34:26 PM)

Come on Mist, ask anything you want. WEG




IrishMist -> RE: **New Rule** Keeps fakes at bay... (1/1/2006 9:40:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SirDarkside357

Come on Mist, ask anything you want. WEG


/ponders this for a second while looking at the ground

/shakes head and turns red

No, umm, better not lol...my imagination is getting the better of me





slvhunter -> RE: **New Rule** Keeps fakes at bay... (1/2/2006 5:05:47 AM)

I like the idea in general but do not see it as being totaly practical. It may seem a bit pushy to some and that just might have been your match. I would rather not receive any emails from fakes and have my box with one or two real people who are serious about it. As a master it is discouraging to make contact with those that say they are looking and never get a boo form them. I do not write to just anyone , I need to make sure they are compatible first at least on "paper"




Slaveless1 -> RE: **New Rule** Keeps fakes at bay... (1/2/2006 5:07:35 AM)

Well said, its like I wrote this myself....LOL




KevinS -> RE: **New Rule** Keeps fakes at bay... (1/3/2006 8:57:39 AM)

I would not agree with you that insisting on someone meeting you within 2weeks will 'weed out' the 'fakes'.

It is an entirely valid criterion, but it would be a specific filter to select against those who are not interested in a realtime interaction, or are timid to the point of not being ready for it. I, in fact, use a similar set of guidelines myself, as I simply don't have time for people in either category.

I would suggest phrasing this as a personal preference, rather than as your 'demand as a Master', as the second shows an attitude that, rightfully so, may cause some ridicule.




KnightofMists -> RE: **New Rule** Keeps fakes at bay... (1/3/2006 11:16:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: IrishMist


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ORIGINAL: SirDarkside357

Come on Mist, ask anything you want. WEG


/ponders this for a second while looking at the ground

/shakes head and turns red

No, umm, better not lol...my imagination is getting the better of me





mmmmmmmm me thinking it's not your imagination that is getting the better of you... it's that um quiver of desire that your feeling *G*... of course imagination sure is some powerful fuel for that um desire *G*




IrishMist -> RE: **New Rule** Keeps fakes at bay... (1/3/2006 11:32:33 AM)

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mmmmmmmm me thinking it's not your imagination that is getting the better of you... it's that um quiver of desire that your feeling *G*... of course imagination sure is some powerful fuel for that um desire *G*


LOL, could be but I have come to realize one thing...imagination and whiskey should not be used together ........

/shakes head

I am still recovering from my oh pity me crying in my whiskey tangent that I went on




girl4you2 -> RE: **New Rule** Keeps fakes at bay... (1/3/2006 11:59:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: IrishMist
LOL, could be but I have come to realize one thing...imagination and whiskey should not be used together ........

/shakes head

I am still recovering from my oh pity me crying in my whiskey tangent that I went on

dang, someone should have told joyce that...sheesh, now we can't drink and think? <goes off mumbling about 'the luck of the irish'...>




IrishMist -> RE: **New Rule** Keeps fakes at bay... (1/3/2006 12:33:37 PM)

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dang, someone should have told joyce that...sheesh, now we can't drink and think? <goes off mumbling about 'the luck of the irish'...>


LOL I can drink and think, but the two together...always get me in trouble




SirDarkside357 -> RE: **New Rule** Keeps fakes at bay... (1/3/2006 1:02:55 PM)

LOL, as you may have noticed, I decided that after the last post about imagination and such, I would not respond....a slaves imagination, though a wonderful thing, can also be very dangerous......and like they say around here in the boonies, "if ya skerd, say ya skerd".......WEG




IrishMist -> RE: **New Rule** Keeps fakes at bay... (1/3/2006 7:38:13 PM)

/nods

uh huh

LOL

I am terrible sometimes




sweetpettjenny -> RE: **New Rule** Keeps fakes at bay... (1/4/2006 3:08:26 AM)

See i agree in meeting someone as soon as possible. i met Wes the same day we talked on here, and we met in a mall( public safe place). It was a good thing , because we built no false expectations of the other, we were just what are pictures show, and who we said we are. i personally myself have talked to a few wanna be dominants who "want" to take things slow and never meet. Sometimes they impose their fantasy fake online lifestyle on those of us who clearly are upfront about needing r/l and it simply is unfair and heart wrenching at times for some. i support meeting within 2 weeks completely. i know i couldn't travel and pay huge bills to do so , so that is why i searched local , and luckily i found a great man / Master in Wesley. We enjoy each others company and the kids are all respectful of both of us being together as well. my advice is meet asap so at least you will find out right away their is a chance or not.
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ORIGINAL: DelRey

Masters don’t always enjoy imposing Rules, but I have come across an answer to a question on in another thread titled, "Weeding out Wanna-bees" that I believe is worthy it’s own.

In a reply to a writer, Mercnbeth, recommended using a two week rule to visit or at least have an eye to eye meeting when considering a new D/s relationship.

Keep in mind many relationships are LD and a two week rendezvous may be difficult. Rules are made to be broken – yada, yada, yada…. And all of those justifying arguments can be made. However, after thinking of the total waste of time spent sometimes I’m now starting to think this is a good, No – Great quick measuring stick if someone is serious about a relationship or just dipping their toe in the water. I have posted my version of my 2 week rule in my journal and wonder what may happen if the rest of the D/M’s followed suit.

I’m interested in what your thoughts are and I am also interested in with the subs/slaves think of having to obide by a Master’s rule before he may or may not become your Master.

del Rey






Padriag -> RE: **New Rule** Keeps fakes at bay... (1/4/2006 3:16:41 AM)

Personally, I don't think a 2 week rule is going to be any guarantee of weeding out fakes... particularly the more devious ones. The best means I've found of doing that is the one thing no one else can ever replace... my own judgement.

I do think such a 2 week rule will likely do you as much harm as it will good in your search if you strictly enforce it. If you don't strictly enforce it, but instead bend it for this one and that one because of this or that circumstance then why bother with a rule at all? Personally I think the only thing it would be good for is finding play partners. Long term relationships generally take an investment of a bit more effort than that (not always, sometimes you get lucky and someone wonderful literally falls in your lap... but you can't count on that sort of luck).

Speaking as a dominant, there are those I would have met in person within two weeks of meeting them online... a few the same day (one I knew I'd ask to marry me the day I met her... luck of the Irish ya know). But there have also been those I would not have met that quickly, for whatever reason I wanted more time to get to know them. I also think about my own work schedule right now... there is in fact a friend I met here who lives just 35 miles away and wants to meet for coffee and to see my portfolio... and I'd like that, but haven't had time. I probably won't have time to do it til next month somtime. KoM made a good point about this, and I very much agree, is that two weeks of talking 8 hours a day every day, or talking 2 days for 2 hours each... that's a huge difference. I suppose you could say that after chatting online for 28 hours cumulative time you will expect them to agree to a meeting (thats an average of 2 hours a day, every day for 2 weeks), but do you really want to be governed yourself by a timer? There are just too many possible exceptions to a rule like that for it to be a means of "weeding out fakes". But then I find that's generally true of any "one size fits all" kind of rule.

That's not to say I don't have standards. For example if I get the impression at any point in getting to know someone that they're never going to meet in person, I promptly write them off as anything other than a friend and let them know that. If they want to do something about that, that's up to them, but until they impress me otherwise, friendship is all I will offer. But again this goes back to relying on my own judgement, my own standards, and my own intuition... there's no simplistic rule, there's only my assessment of the situation and what action I think is appropriate. I make it clear in my profile that I am looking for a real, long term, master/slave relationship. Now that may stop some "fakes" by itself, but it hasn't stopped some wankers from writing to me anyway wanting to know if I'll dom them online or some other such nonsense. I don't think setting a 2 week time limit will change that... there are still plenty of people just out for giggles and grins that will happily string you along for that 2 weeks. Meanwhile there are those that can't just pick up an fly out to meet you because they're in college or mothers with kids and so on... or they can't drive that 150 miles to meet because of the rising cost of gas. And frankly, do you really have enough air miles to cash in you can afford to fly to meet everyone who does agree to meet in that 2 weeks? That could potentially be a lot of people. Just sitting here counting up the friends I have made here who I would like to visit someday, that would add up to ooooh... lets see, round trip tickets to Europe, UK, Canada, various parts of the US, Australia... I think we're into six digit numbers... ugh! One day I do hope to meet all these people, just isn't gonna happen in two weeks. Probably not in two years... but we'll get there when we can.

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I’m interested in what your thoughts are and I am also interested in with the subs/slaves think of having to obide by a Master’s rule before he may or may not become your Master.

I think rules regarding their interaction with you are fine... but not rules regarding them. That is, I expect and insist on someone having good basic manners, I expect them to be open with me (who wants to batter down walls just to get know someone), and I expect them to be forthcoming regarding some basic info about themselves. They'll get the same from me. If they can't abide by such simple expectations, I reserve the right to cut contact with them. I'm well within my rights as a human being to say, "You want to take up my time talking to me, you'll treat me with courtesy and respect, otherwise, why are you here?" But beyond that I have no particular right to make rules governing them. I don't have the right to demand nude pics, demand that they not talk to others, or demand that they behave in certain ways or do certain things (beyond how they treat me). If they don't like my rules for communicating with me, then they probably weren't what I was looking for anyway. That's alright, as Devlin pointed out, just because someone isn't what you are looking for or didn't live up to your expectations doesn't mean they are a fake. Sometimes all it means is you're expectations were unrealistic.




KnightofMists -> RE: **New Rule** Keeps fakes at bay... (1/5/2006 1:19:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Padriag

One day I do hope to meet all these people, just isn't gonna happen in two weeks. Probably not in two years... but we'll get there when we can.



well now... I am going to be Ft Lauderdale next November *G* Alittle trip to the south for you is alot better than a long trip to the cold north *w*.




RainGod -> RE: **New Rule** Keeps fakes at bay... (1/5/2006 1:50:09 PM)

Delvin posted this...way back on page one:

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Sigh, have seen this "online" thing grow from 1981 and the days of the military to the little BBS groups around the town to what we now have.


Wow. I was totally unaware the internet was that old. I know I didn't exactly grow up in Metropolis, but I thought it began in like the early 90's.... Am I losing it here? lol




RainGod -> RE: **New Rule** Keeps fakes at bay... (1/5/2006 1:54:04 PM)

SirDarkside said:

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......and like they say around here in the boonies, "if ya skerd, say ya skerd".......WEG


Lmao! yeah, see... I can relate to that. So could this be why we didn't hear of the internet in My hometown until the 90's?? lol

Good one, Darkside!




MasterLark -> RE: **New Rule** Keeps fakes at bay... (1/5/2006 2:40:58 PM)

At best, I could only see your 2-week rule not as a rule but a general guideline. Even then, it feels like rushing things to me. To me, the dance online, by phone and otherwise prior to meeting in person is critical, so that IF we meet, the meeting matters and is more than just casual. I understand the angst that drives such a rule, but shortening the doing the dance beforehand seems compromising.



"TWO WEEK RULE

If you begin talking with me and begin the thoughts and possibilities that this may have a chance in your mind YOU have 2 weeks for us to at least meet casually and eye to eye for a cup of coffee or perhaps a drink. After two weeks and we have not met or have plans to meet, Adios, say lave, Sinara… bu bye……

In rare cases the 2 weeks can be extended but there may be a lot of begging, pleading and offerings by you in order to sell me on the extension. "




Padriag -> RE: **New Rule** Keeps fakes at bay... (1/5/2006 4:30:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists


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ORIGINAL: Padriag

One day I do hope to meet all these people, just isn't gonna happen in two weeks. Probably not in two years... but we'll get there when we can.



well now... I am going to be Ft Lauderdale next November *G* Alittle trip to the south for you is alot better than a long trip to the cold north *w*.


Sounds like an idea, I should be in Virginia by then... I'll save a quart of applebutter for ya. Not that I mind the cold... and at least you actually get snow... all I ever get down here is the occasional ice storm... blech!




JohnWarren -> RE: **New Rule** Keeps fakes at bay... (1/5/2006 4:37:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RainGod
Wow. I was totally unaware the internet was that old. I know I didn't exactly grow up in Metropolis, but I thought it began in like the early 90's.... Am I losing it here? lol[/color][/size]


The "Internet" generally became available in people's homes in the early 90's. Before that it was largely a thing of the government and universities. Of course, there are kinky people there too and we used to keep in touch in the Usenet newsgroup alt.sex.bondage (largely supplanted by soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm now).

There were also Computer Bulletin Board Systems (BBS) which kept in contact through modems connected via regular telephone lines. These dated WAY back. I remember being on CompuServe's "CB Simulator" (a real-time chat system) way back in 1979 when it was only available around Columbus, Ohio. The kinky folks hung out on channel 13.




Padriag -> RE: **New Rule** Keeps fakes at bay... (1/5/2006 6:07:55 PM)

Ah yes... the good ole days of 300 baud rate modems. An then I was the first in my class to get an 800 baud modem and everybody thought was hot stuff! That's 800 bytes per second folks. Now days we measure baud rates on broadband in Megabytes per second... that's millions of bytes per second. Tell me again what was so great about the good ole days? Maybe it was the platter drives... or maybe it was key punch cards... oh I know... it was the tape drives... no not the cassette ones... the original paper tape drives.

You'll excuse me but I suddenly feel the urge to hug my computer. Gotta love progress. LOL




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