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Mercnbeth -> It's NOT your fault. (1/1/2006 5:10:35 PM)

Psychiatry is becoming a growth industry. The APS (American Psychiatric Association) is doing their best to make sure that anything you do - isn't your fault. Successful, the ultimate result of their efforts may be the elimination of prisons and long stay psychiatric hospitals. With any time spent watching TV, you will surly encounter the "disease du jour", being "sold" with the appropriate pill cure. It's even easier to market the concept when you create the disease and base it upon common human experience.

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Psychiatry's sick compulsion: turning weaknesses into diseases
By Irwin Savodnik, Irwin Savodnik is a psychiatrist and philosopher who teaches at UCLA.

The association specializes in turning ordinary human frailty into disease. In the last year, ads have been appearing in psychiatric journals about possible treatments for shyness, a "syndrome" not yet officially recognized as a disease. You can bet it will be in the next edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, or DSM-IV, published by the association. As it turns out, the association has been inventing mental illnesses for the last 50 years or so. The original diagnostic manual appeared in 1952 and contained 107 diagnoses and 132 pages, by my count. The second edition burst forth in 1968 with 180 diagnoses and 119 pages. In 1980, the association produced a 494-page tome with 226 conditions. Then, in 1994, the manual exploded to 886 pages and 365 conditions, representing a 340% increase in the number of diseases over 42 years.


In an attempt to excuse behavior, psychiatry has the potential of becoming the next religion. Socially unacceptable behavior is the result of a disease. It would be immoral to prosecute (persecute?) a "sick person. It's stated in the article...

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It's a natural step from using social and political standards to create a psychiatric diagnosis to using them to influence public policy. Historically, that influence has appeared most dramatically in the insanity defense. Remember Dan White, the man who murdered San Francisco Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk in 1978? Or John Hinckley, who shot President Reagan in 1981? Or Mark David Chapman, who killed John Lennon? White, whose psychiatrist came up with the "Twinkie defense" — the high sugar content of White's favorite junk food may have fueled his murderous impulses — was convicted and paroled after serving five years, only to commit suicide a year later.

The erosion of personal responsibility is, arguably, the most pernicious effect of the expansive role psychiatry has come to play in American life. It has successfully replaced huge chunks of individual accountability with diagnoses, clinical histories and what turn out to be pseudoscientific explanations for deviant behavior.




Entire Article: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/sunday/editorials/la-op-psych1jan01,1,436152.story?track=mostemailedlink&coll=la-newsaol-headlines&ctrack=1&cset=true








gbgirlz2003 -> RE: It's NOT your fault. (1/2/2006 5:08:28 AM)

Of course Merc, you know that a large number of people on this site have already embraced the "new" religion.

Notice they defend their positions with "testimonials"; not science. Just like faith healers do. See a parallel?




LadyJulieAnn -> RE: It's NOT your fault. (1/2/2006 7:11:02 AM)

This also appears to be occurring with parents, teachers, politicians, the media, etc. However, I certainly wouldn't let one article from one person bring down the entire field of psychiatry.

Be well,
Julie




Mercnbeth -> RE: It's NOT your fault. (1/2/2006 7:45:24 AM)

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certainly wouldn't let one article from one person bring down the entire field of psychiatry.


Lady JulieAnn,
What set this article apart for us was that it was written by a psychiatrist. No one person or one article can bring down such an established industry. beth and I differ on psychiatry's positive effect. she equates it to modern day faith healing; I feel pathological causes can effect behavior and in some instances drugs and/or other treatment can abate the problem. Psychology however IS modern day faith healing. I was surprised that a psychiatrist was the author.

There was an interesting theory being debated at some of the holiday parties. How many government departments, industries, businesses; are only in existence because they create their market by generating fear? The government is the worst offender, but the medical, drug, and legal industries seem to bring the concept of self preservation into the private sector.




LadyJulieAnn -> RE: It's NOT your fault. (1/2/2006 9:15:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

There was an interesting theory being debated at some of the holiday parties. How many government departments, industries, businesses; are only in existence because they create their market by generating fear? The government is the worst offender, but the medical, drug, and legal industries seem to bring the concept of self preservation into the private sector.


I would certainly agree with this, and would add to that the role that television media plays in generating fear.

Be well,
Julie




Raphael -> RE: It's NOT your fault. (1/2/2006 9:50:16 AM)

You should look into the writings of Thomas Szasz. 'The Myth of Mental Illness' to start. This isn't one person, or one article - it's just that the psychiatric industry has the clout to keep it out of the mainstream media most of the time.




Mercnbeth -> RE: It's NOT your fault. (1/2/2006 2:40:04 PM)

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You should look into the writings of Thomas Szasz. 'The Myth of Mental Illness' to start. This isn't one person, or one article - it's just that the psychiatric industry has the clout to keep it out of the mainstream media most of the time.


thanks for the advice--already read the book though and suggested the book and website here: Confession and Emotional Health




mantis65 -> RE: It's NOT your fault. (1/2/2006 3:50:21 PM)

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How many government departments, industries, businesses; are only in existence because they create their market by generating fear?


Too many
Yes there is real mental illness out there and the psychotic delusions type are not cured in a cheap or speedy way.
There are too many manufactured horrors out there to sell legal dope




veronicaofML -> RE: It's NOT your fault. (1/8/2006 10:43:19 PM)

hmmmmmmmm

does this mean i should stop taking my meds????

does it matter if i actually pounce on and hurt people then, if it is just an excuse????

damn...maybe i oughta huh?





MysticalPhoenix -> RE: It's NOT your fault. (1/11/2006 5:13:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: veronicaofML

hmmmmmmmm

does this mean i should stop taking my meds????

does it matter if i actually pounce on and hurt people then, if it is just an excuse????

damn...maybe i oughta huh?



I'll check with the voices in my head and see if they have any advice...





wolffeathers -> RE: It's NOT your fault. (1/11/2006 6:11:28 AM)

Even some of my friends, who are currently at various Universities learning to be shrinks, have problems with the way the field is.

This is why, I am a computer geek.

The computer only eats your soul.




sailorthor -> RE: It's NOT your fault. (1/16/2006 7:44:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
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The erosion of personal responsibility is, arguably, the most pernicious effect of the expansive role psychiatry has come to play in American life. It has successfully replaced huge chunks of individual accountability with diagnoses, clinical histories and what turn out to be pseudoscientific explanations for deviant behavior.




[sardonic humor]
It's the ones who fully accept personal responsibility who are truly sick, don't you see? When do we get a pill?
[/sardonic humor]





LaMalinche -> RE: It's NOT your fault. (1/20/2006 1:11:39 AM)

Yes, it is MY fault. I failed to stop World War I. And now we have this mess. It is all MY fault. I accept this and have moved on to much more evil things.

Let the floggings begin.

PM me and I will explain why WW I was my fault.

LaMalinche

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We are all worms, but I do believe I am a glowworm. —Winston Churchill

We would rather speak ill of ourselves than not talk about ourselves at all.




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