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butt plugs - 12/28/2008 10:08:26 AM   
whis31


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Status: offline 		Master has me trying to learn to stretch my anal opening to accpet a medium size butt plug. I'm having a really hard time with this. Master wants me to beable to this "cold" with no foreplay or warm up. I know with alot of "warm"up time i can take the medium butt plug i have in the past. Without the warm up time i find it really hurts for me. Ok my question would be how do you relax and let it happen? Yes i do use lube, lube, and more lube.

Thanks for advice.
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RE: butt plugs - 12/28/2008 10:14:29 AM   
sarahanna


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Status: offline 		The only advice I could really give is, okay how to put this delicately, instead of uhm just trying to shove it in all at once, uhm work it in slowly, if that makes sense. It's still not using foreplay or warm up, but will at least help it not hurt so much. I hope this helps.   

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RE: butt plugs - 12/28/2008 10:15:38 AM   
SteelofUtah


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Status: offline 		My Advice. Respectfully , and Responsibly direct your Master to an Anatomy Text Book and the Sphincter Musscle groups. 

What he wants may not only not be possible for you but may also be dangerous. 

On a side note, For Fucks Sakes people can you manage to seperate your Fantasy from your Reality. 

The Sphincter has an Inner and an Outer ONLY ONE OF WHICH IS VOLUNTARY!!!

Millions of people could give you advice and none of it would matter if you have an Overactive Inner Sphincter. If it won't relax and you tear that will be the last time you EVER try ANAL. See this is way some many women have issues with Anal Sex because most men are too stupid to find out if what they are doing is okay.

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RE: butt plugs - 12/28/2008 10:25:36 AM   
sarahanna


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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

My Advice. Respectfully , and Responsibly direct your Master to an Anatomy Text Book and the Sphincter Musscle groups. 

What he wants may not only not be possible for you but may also be dangerous. 

On a side note, For Fucks Sakes people can you manage to seperate your Fantasy from your Reality. 

The Sphincter has an Inner and an Outer ONLY ONE OF WHICH IS VOLUNTARY!!!

Millions of people could give you advice and none of it would matter if you have an Overactive Inner Sphincter. If it won't relax and you tear that will be the last time you EVER try ANAL. See this is way some many women have issues with Anal Sex because most men are too stupid to find out if what they are doing is okay.

**Grumbles and walks away seeking Eggs Bacon and Coffee**

Steel



Steel, can I have you come knock some sense into some Doms for me? I agree with you 100% that sometimes we do get caught up in the fantasy and forget about the reality of it all.

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RE: butt plugs - 12/28/2008 10:26:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		hi and believe it or not i was very nervous to use a butt plug when instructed a long time ago.. it has been a awhile since i have used one until the beginning of this year, and i used plenty of lube and always made sure i eased it in , no not good to force it in at all.. as you become comfy with it then work yourself up to wearing it for sometime at home and it begins to feel quite nice :) so now when i regularly use it i feel it slips in quite easily , but i still use lube , but i find i can take a bigger plug and well this pleases my Ma'am quite a bit, and that makes me a very happy girl
 
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RE: butt plugs - 12/28/2008 10:32:51 AM   
utopicus


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Status: offline 		Your Master should get familiar with Human Anatomy and have the consideration to discuss the issue with you. Do whatever works for you too.

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RE: butt plugs - 12/28/2008 11:01:32 AM   
Feliciasub


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Status: offline 		i have few sub friends and we often discuss ''anal stuff ''. Even the experts one won't take a butt plug without warming up.

i do wear a medium size butt plug and i usually take a nice hot shower or bath to relaxe . While in it i play with my hole just to make it feel i am coming this way .... them right after the shower or bath i use a lot of lube to ease the plug in. i never insert it in ''one shot '' i begin with the ''head'' of it and play with my hole until i can go deeper and deeper and then finally insert it all in.

To get use to be dilatated, i wear it for different amount of time while i do other stuff around the house. Actually it starts to feel good once you pass what i call the ''sh** point ''. i like the feeling of being stretched and it feels even more GREAT when i do it because i am told to.

i admit it, anal skills are my weakness. i use to be in a relationship with one of those guy that don't take time to prepare the hole before penetrating it and it left me with a fear of anal sex ( i know that i use to enjoy it before this guy completly scared me of it ) and wearing a butt plug helps me work on it.

So take your time, relaxe and most important talk this issue with your Dominant those ae the only advices i can give you. Do what ever works for you.

Felicia :)

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RE: butt plugs - 12/28/2008 1:20:47 PM   
MrDevlin


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Status: offline 		More time with the "small" is obviously called for, or did you even get to start there?  Also, he's gonna have to let go of the "cold" thing.  Humans just aren't built that way.  Ask for permission for "discussion time", whatever you have to do to speak openly, and tell him, straight out, that you have to have gentle and gradual dilation.  You could be seriously injured.

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RE: butt plugs - 12/28/2008 1:40:43 PM   
whis31


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Status: offline 		Thanks for the advice! some of it i have tried but not the hot bath first will have to give that a shot and see if i can. i can get about have way in then it's that oh sh** point and i just can't force it any father. i will contuine to work on it untill he comes home on Jan 4 then if i'm stil having issues i will ask to speak with Him. Thanks again for the help!

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RE: butt plugs - 12/28/2008 1:46:40 PM   
angelikaJ


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Status: offline 		There are some very good books: Anal Pleasure and Health by Jack Morin, which lays out a whole "program"...basically he says if you feel any pain at all you are going too fast.

http://www.amazon.com/Anal-Pleasure-Health-Guide-Women/dp/0940208202

Steel is right about the inner and outer sphincters... and they do influence each other somewhat: if you are tense there is no way the involuntary one is going to be happy having something force it's way in which will cause pain and will cause the voluntary one to tighten....which can set you up for the wrong kind of feed-back loop....becoming a viscious cycle.

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RE: butt plugs - 12/28/2008 2:07:26 PM   
beargonewild


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Status: offline 		A person has to be as relaxed as possible to accept a butt plug and not experience pain. The key is you being able to become comfortable and re;axed enough to avoid clenching which tightens the sphincter muscles of the anus. This also affects the mind as it will associate an insertable as being pleasurable and not painful. In time the body will get used to an object being inserted and the insertion can become easy and quite enjoyable.

eta: One of the best pieces of advice I was taught and believe in especially when one is a bit nervous and tense is the other person massages the outer sphincter before inserting a finger (trimmed nails please) As the finger is drawn in, keep massaging to help relax the inner sphincter. After a bit, withdraw the finger and then move to the insertable. Use the same technique with the plug to massage both the inner and outer sphincter muscles. The trick is the person doing the insertion is to allow the sphincters to draw to object inside and then voila, it is in. This may take several tries before you have success. 


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RE: butt plugs - 12/28/2008 2:18:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: whis31

Thanks for the advice! some of it i have tried but not the hot bath first will have to give that a shot and see if i can. i can get about have way in then it's that oh sh** point and i just can't force it any father. i will contuine to work on it untill he comes home on Jan 4 then if i'm stil having issues i will ask to speak with Him. Thanks again for the help!


Forcing will cause pain and that pain has a sharpness  that shoots through the body. Remember the tissues around and inside are more susceptible to tearing if the trauma is intensive enough.  Been there and I quickly learned the painful way!


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RE: butt plugs - 12/28/2008 6:46:39 PM   
BondageBarbieX


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Status: offline 		I can take butt plugs with out warm up ...just do breathing exercises and relax...but if it hurts do not do it.You will tear and it will hurt.
Have more anal sex that helps stretch you a little bit ...


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RE: butt plugs - 12/29/2008 5:39:09 AM   
malloves69


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Status: offline 		how about a enema before hand .? that should get you to open up more and after the enema is passed and your all nice and clean the butt plug should slip in easier  have fun mal

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RE: butt plugs - 12/29/2008 2:45:12 PM   
Feliciasub


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Status: offline 		Enema can be very pleasant but it can cause irritation if you do it to often

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RE: butt plugs - 12/29/2008 2:53:12 PM   
CatdeMedici


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Status: offline 		Get it out of your mind that it is a dirty no no.
 
Stop tightening, if you are afraid of "mess" make sure you have well cleaned and used an enema before.
 
Start with actually coming to terms with our body, start with your own well lubed finger as you rest in the bathtub perhaps.
 
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RE: butt plugs - 12/29/2008 3:00:32 PM   
whis31


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Status: offline 		Thanks! for all the advice and the thoughts!

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RE: butt plugs - 12/29/2008 6:05:01 PM   
BondageBarbieX


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Status: offline 		Enemas won't open your anus any further than the tube inserted it will just clean you out

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RE: butt plugs - 12/29/2008 7:48:07 PM   
malloves69


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Status: offline 		after your done passing the enema ...what happens ? your asshole opens up more ..at least mine does   sure it goes back to normal size but before it does out goes the enema ...in goes the butt plug after you wiped of course ...works for me   mal

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RE: butt plugs - 12/30/2008 4:05:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually, if the enema is done with warm water, it will help relax the muscles. That would be helpful.

i suggest getting a series of plugs in small to large sizes or an inflatable one. Start small, wear it for several hours at a time... while you sleep perhaps. Once the smaller size is comfortable, go up a step until that is comfortable. The inflatable one, you would just pump up a bit more when you are ready to go up.

Also a nice orgasm first will help loosen up all the muscles. Using a small vibrator against the anal muscles will also help them loosen up... try inserting that first, letting the vibrations allow the muscles to just pull it in. (note that i said small.. one of those that is advertised as 'pocket-sized' or 'perfect for your purse or travel'. Trying it with a rabbit isn't really good for beginners, lol)

Most important, relax and enjoy it.... it should feel good.

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