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blake12345 -> pro-subbing? (1/2/2006 3:50:32 PM)

is there any market demand for the pro sub? I'm talking about real submission and not just topping from the bottom. I would prefer to be gagged if a gig ever materialized so that I couldn't verbally interfere. Unless, of course the perspective dom/me wanted to hear some begging. I'm talking about real total submission. I would show up the appointment and simply do as told.



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: pro-subbing? (1/2/2006 4:13:59 PM)

Yes, there is a market for it.



SubmissiveOphelia -> RE: pro-subbing? (1/2/2006 4:17:58 PM)

It depends on what you offer. There are some subs that are a dime a dozen who offer things that are not allowed, and lean on the sensual side of t hings.

If you do very hardcore, and/or have something that no one else offers, then the demand will be higher in SOME regards.

For myself, I only see certain clients, and I have specific types of scenes I offer.

There is of course more of a demand for Femdommes.



spoiledbrat -> RE: pro-subbing? (1/2/2006 9:57:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: blake12345

is there any market demand for the pro sub? I'm talking about real submission and not just topping from the bottom. I would prefer to be gagged if a gig ever materialized so that I couldn't verbally interfere. Unless, of course the perspective dom/me wanted to hear some begging. I'm talking about real total submission. I would show up the appointment and simply do as told.





Hello, I have worked for the last two years here in the Bay area of CA, as a pro submissive, I have nationl reviews and am ranked. I could work so much but tend to be very picky. I have a website that I advertise on differen't sites, My clients go thru a screening process and have to write a short script of what it is they seek. I have a complete dungeon at home but always keep someone in the house while I work, there are some sick people in this world and you must be careful.

I could work at least once a day and my appointments are min. of two hours, I try not to work more then once or twice a week, so I book out pretty quickly. The thing being is most of the gentlemen are novices and spend most of the time looking at the toys, (from a business side this is funny but good but can also be disappointing cause they all write good stories). I get excited for nothing.

Anyway it is good money and there are far to many dom's with out sub/slaves that look for play and have no one.

Anyway I hope that you didnt mind me butting in, thought I would share the knowledge I do know in this subject.





AAkasha -> RE: pro-subbing? (1/2/2006 10:20:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: blake12345

is there any market demand for the pro sub? I'm talking about real submission and not just topping from the bottom. I would prefer to be gagged if a gig ever materialized so that I couldn't verbally interfere. Unless, of course the perspective dom/me wanted to hear some begging. I'm talking about real total submission. I would show up the appointment and simply do as told.


There is a market for pro sub men that submit to gay tops, to be sure.

There's a market for male escorts who cater to women, so it isn't a leap to assume that some women would pay men to submit. The numbers would just be a lot smaller (less kinky women than vanilla women). And, there are so many willing subs who will do it for free at the drop of the hat.

A pro male sub would have to offer something that makes it worth the money -- and a way to advertise. How does a femdom know he is a sensual, dynamic submissive? In my experience, women who top want a sub that is responsive and passionate and also knows how to read her. He has to be intuitive and genuine. He also must possess charisma and adaptability if he is going to submit to women he doesn't know.

A good way to advertise might be to get limited video taping (web cam, digital, whatever) of him submitting to male customers, so the femdoms can see how he responds in scene. I know that some of the gay bondage sites I visit feature male subs that I would consider worthy of paying to play. They just have that "wow" factor in their responses, body language, eyes, etc.

He'd have to have a great facility to play in, a nice body/look, many toys at his disposal and a safe aura about him.

I've had some subs in the past that I know were good enough that women would pay for the chance to have their hands on him. So it can be done.

Akasha



swtnsparkling -> RE: pro-subbing? (1/3/2006 2:59:18 AM)

quote:

Hello, I have worked for the last two years here in the Bay area of CA, as a pro submissive, I have nationl reviews and am ranked. I could work so much but tend to be very picky.


another thread: When would you give up?
quote:

I have been with my owner for two years

quote:

My dominant was the only person in my life for two years, I never left the house only to go to grocery store. I know longer have friends or my own life to go to


I should change my name to swtnalwaysconfused LOL



spoiledbrat -> RE: pro-subbing? (1/3/2006 4:36:58 PM)

Swtnssparkling

First of all I guess I deserved that but let me address what you said

Yes, I was with my owner for two years in December, This is the job he gave for me to do. My job is not my personal life as I am sure if you work it is the same.

My job is not who I am persay, these are people that choose me, not me them.

He also had me do escort work for a while, but my oral skills are so good, my business sense savy that there would be no time for anything else.


This is a job not personal big difference, I go to work, also as a pro subm I do not offer sex. Also they are not my owner.


And for leaving my house, I have afull dungeon there, no need to go out.

Any questions

Check out my site

www.autumnmichelle.com
I have reviews and am nationally ranked



cagedfaith -> RE: pro-subbing? (1/22/2006 10:34:46 PM)

hehe, error, since i apparently do not know how to edit.



cagedfaith -> RE: pro-subbing? (1/22/2006 10:55:20 PM)

Yes, there is definitely a market for pro-subs. It appears that your ideal would be to obtain a few regular clients, and pretty much just like any slave/Master situation have a pretty clear cut contract between the two of you, with your stated limits. In that way you could get to truly know your client, how to please them, and if there is trust, you can submit without topping from the bottom.

While we are fulfilling a need for the top (a need for discretion, lack of time for a true commitment on the part of the top etc), there is something quite satisfying about it. The situation frees you to be completely "whorish" and totally nasty. :)


Note: By "whorish" i am not referring to sexual favors. i'm referring more to the way that you present your body for a beating, how you garishly spread your legs and touch yourself, how you beg them to hurt you, when you crawl accross the floor towards them, or when you call them "Master" or "Sir", the way you look at them, and when you show them the marks they have made on your body. It's also the objectification. The fact that your sole purpose, what you are paid for, is to be used and to serve. It is all that.



DungeonSpain -> RE: pro-subbing? (1/23/2006 10:25:05 AM)

Hello there in Collarme land

We own a professional dungeon here in Spain.

There are many requests for both male and female submissives and people are willing to pay for them.

The only caveat is that should you undertake such a task, then be certain that you take precautions to ensure that you walkback out through the doors. You would not want to be dominated by a Hannibal Lecter type.

My partner, who is a switch, regularly submits to females and males who want the services of a pro submissive.

The difference is that the professional will provide the feedback that the Dominant requires; by that I mean, the resistance play, the oooo's and aaagh's and the begging for mercy.

Try it ... what do you have to lose ... well maybe a lot ...but give it a go anyway.

Regards

Mistress jane
http://www.bondagedominationspain.com



perverseangelic -> RE: pro-subbing? (1/23/2006 11:36:49 AM)

well, I know that I'm trying to break into the market and that there has been interest.

I am only interesed in the s&m side of it, 'cause I dont' really want to do the escort thing. I haven't yet been able to actually go through with stuff, because thus far potential clients have backed out, however, based on the amount of interest I've gotten locally and not locally it seems that there is a market.



Mercnbeth -> RE: pro-subbing? (1/23/2006 11:55:20 AM)

Here is a link if anyone wants to explore the pro life. We've been to parties and other functions held at the facility. It's very well furnished and seems to be run as a professional business.

Unfortunately, based upon the schedule they have posted on their site, there are no male doms or subs available. Is this a function of too many men willing to do the job for free or woman not considering the pro option to fulfill their needs?

http://passivearts.com/employment.html



la90066 -> RE: pro-subbing? (1/23/2006 7:51:39 PM)


A friend of mine works as a pro-sub here:

http://www.dominionsm.com/ladies.html


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