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corysub -> RE: Why I don't participate in Organized Religion. (1/4/2009 7:17:54 PM)
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
It is not because I dont believe, I just have this major problem with the simple fact that as far as Christian, Muslim, and Jewish people are concerned there is one book, or in the words of the Prophet Mohammad, "Allah will bless all the children of the book."
That book is the old testament, since the Jewish don't believe the messiah has gotten here once already, the Muslims don't believe Jesus was the son of God, and the Christians cant agree on what the New Testament means.
An Indian once said, "if there is one god, and one book, why do you all (whites) disagree with what it says?"
An interesting point made by a man who had watched his world destroyed and limited by a group of invaders who preached "do unto others as you would yourselves."
I am not sure but I do not believe God meant the golden rule to apply only to whites, or people of the same color of skin.
Then you have one group of people saying that the children of Adam and Eve married each other, when it is made clear incest is a big taboo, and totally disregarding the passage, "and the sons of Adam took to wife the daughters of men.?"
I can really rattle some cages with the next 'implied' point in the new testament, that being that Jesus was married.
Under the law of Moses, to teach in the Synagogue, a man had to be married. Thus, the law of God demanded Jesus to be married, read Leviticus. For Jesus to teach in the Synagogue and not be married would have been blasphemous, and a major sin.
Second, when Lazarus lay in his tomb dead, and Jesus on the way to the tomb called Mary, Lazarus' and Martha's sister to come forth from the house and join him, he was doing what only her husband could do while she was in mourning, command her to leave the home.
Again, read Leviticus.
Jesus' ministry would not have gotten the followers it had if he had blatantly disregarded the law of moses.
Bring those points up to a christian and watch em backpedal and say that Christ was above the law. Well, the problem with that is if he had flaunted the law in that way, he would have been stoned to death.
One book, and no body can agree on what it says.
Thus the question is who is right and who is wrong?
Personally, I feel you have to find your own way to your creator, Pagan, christian or desciple of Holly....
My opinion is that some guy got really bored being surrounded by yes men in heaven, made the universe and gave his creation free will.
After that, at some point he sent junior down to get people straightened out and that went over like, well you know....
What ever makes you happy...However, your point about Jesus must have been married because you had to be married to "preach" in the temple might be reconsidered. I could be wrong, but according to the Gospel of Luke, "when Jesus was twelve years old, his parents took him to Jerusalem for the Passover. As they started to return home, they realized that Jesus was missing. Three days later they found Jesus sitting in the Temple surrounded by religious teachers. He was "listening to them and putting questions; and all who heard him were amazed at his intelligence and the answers he gave." (Luke 2: 47) Even in the time of the Old Testament I don't think boys married at 12.
Your comment "one book and no one can agree with what it says" is not really true somce many people agree with each other on the meaning of the words.. ... We are dealing with the interpretation of humans and I would guess that just about every document has its "pro" or "con", its strict interpretation and more liberal interpretations...hence the variety of Christian sects interpreting the New Testament in myriad ways. Heck, we can't even agree in this country on what the intent was of the "founding fathers" in the words of the Constitution..much less agree on words put down almost 2,000 years ago!
The point is not what YOU get out of religion but what other people derive from being muslim, jew or christian....not to mention Hindu, Bhuddist, or Tao....or just simply love "nature". Good luck on your path.
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