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celticlord2112 -> A donor's gift soon followed Clinton's help (1/5/2009 8:56:29 AM)
A donor's gift soon followed Clinton's help "Pay for play" seems to be the mantra of the new Administration.

kittinSol -> RE: A donor's gift soon followed Clinton's help (1/5/2009 9:02:42 AM)
It's the spirit of free enterprise, celticlord. I would have thought you would applaud Robert Congell for trying to put politics in his pocket :-) .

popeye1250 -> RE: A donor's gift soon followed Clinton's help (1/5/2009 9:23:30 AM)
Oh great! Now Taxpayer's money is helping to pay for privately owned shopping malls? I thought "big business" was the business of Republicans not Democrats! People are right when they say there's not a dime's worth of difference between Dems and Repubs.

aravain -> RE: A donor's gift soon followed Clinton's help (1/5/2009 9:34:12 AM)
Fast Reply: It's a donation to a charity... it's not like it's going straight into her pocket, or even to her party. True, it's her husband's charity... but even if it IS a thank you gift... how can you be annoyed by him donating to charity for it? Others have done much, much worse (such as 'personal gifts' and such) than a charitable donation. If you're more angered by this than the donations by foreign countries then there's something wrong. Clinton gets no benefit from him donating to her husband's charity... all the money goes toward something, well, charitable, instead of to her pockets or the pockets of her party.

kittinSol -> RE: A donor's gift soon followed Clinton's help (1/5/2009 9:36:44 AM)
Popeye, taxpayers' money has been going down the hatch of private businesses from times immemorial - public dough is the key to success, in the best of capitalistic worlds. Nothing new going on there.

kittinSol -> RE: A donor's gift soon followed Clinton's help (1/5/2009 9:38:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: aravain Fast Reply: It's a donation to a charity... it's not like it's going straight into her pocket, or even to her party. True, it's her husband's charity... but even if it IS a thank you gift... how can you be annoyed by him donating to charity for it? Others have done much, much worse (such as 'personal gifts' and such) than a charitable donation. If you're more angered by this than the donations by foreign countries then there's something wrong. Clinton gets no benefit from him donating to her husband's charity... all the money goes toward something, well, charitable, instead of to her pockets or the pockets of her party. CelticLord is just trying to prepare the way for Obama's inauguration by making him guilty by association.

Lockit -> RE: A donor's gift soon followed Clinton's help (1/5/2009 9:41:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: aravain Fast Reply: It's a donation to a charity... it's not like it's going straight into her pocket, or even to her party. True, it's her husband's charity... but even if it IS a thank you gift... how can you be annoyed by him donating to charity for it? Others have done much, much worse (such as 'personal gifts' and such) than a charitable donation. If you're more angered by this than the donations by foreign countries then there's something wrong. Clinton gets no benefit from him donating to her husband's charity... all the money goes toward something, well, charitable, instead of to her pockets or the pockets of her party. Well... the way I see it... keeping lil billy boy happy is important... keeping him from undressing under a desk and lil girls in red dirty dresses that build careers from a blow job where she didn't swallow... might have a thing or two in keeping Hillary happy. Not to mention that it is simply wrong, wrong, wrong to take benefit, whether we can see it as benefit or not... for favors. That isn't what the American people deserve from their employee's.

aravain -> RE: A donor's gift soon followed Clinton's help (1/5/2009 9:45:34 AM)
True... but there's no evidence that it was: a) A thank you gift (though it's highly suspicious, I'll admit) or b)Something she would have done without such incentive. Quite the opposite, the various changes were meant to stimulate the economy of the state she as 'employed' by (which, to me, is something that the American people DO deserve). That was the over-arching goal... and it was achieved.

Lockit -> RE: A donor's gift soon followed Clinton's help (1/5/2009 9:48:11 AM)
Does shit have to stink to be shit?

celticlord2112 -> RE: A donor's gift soon followed Clinton's help (1/5/2009 10:00:47 AM)
quote: b)Something she would have done without such incentive. According to the article, the legislation at issue was written so that Robert Congel was one of four beneficiaries: quote: The way the legislation was written, Congel's Syracuse development, which he agreed to build and run in a way that promotes renewable energy and recycling, was one of just four proposed projects that would qualify. What did Congel get for his $100K? Decreased financing costs: quote: Congel had been a prime force behind Congress's passage of tax-exempt "green bonds," a program to decrease the financing costs of some $2 billion in environmentally friendly projects by exempting lenders from paying federal taxes on their income from the private bonds. By some estimates, the program could cost the Treasury about $200 million. $200Million for $100K of payola....damn good return on investment, if you ask me. Of course, all of this is merely "change we can believe in".[8\|]

lronitulstahp -> RE: A donor's gift soon followed Clinton's help (1/5/2009 10:09:22 AM)
"Change we can believe in" was never Hillary's slogan. i guess you're relieved it's Obama, not Clinton that will be the 44th President.[;)]

Lucylastic -> RE: A donor's gift soon followed Clinton's help (1/5/2009 11:00:52 AM)
it was in 2004 what the hell has this to do with Obama's admin?? funny I didnt see anything here or anywhere much about the guy bush pardoned and then had to resind cos of a donation by the family... Lucy

celticlord2112 -> RE: A donor's gift soon followed Clinton's help (1/5/2009 11:46:45 AM)
quote: it was in 2004 what the hell has this to do with Obama's admin?? Lessee....Senator Clinton uses hubby to gather a little payola....and now she's in line to be Secretary of State. Given that the Clintons are known for selling out to the highest bidder, I wonder in whose pocket Secretary of State Clinton will be. With peace breaking out all over the Middle East, it seems a fair question to ask. As for Dear Leader, one is known by the company one keeps. With such sterling characters as Bill Richardson and Hillary Clinton at his side, one has to ask, is Dear Leader the john or the whore?

SilverMark -> RE: A donor's gift soon followed Clinton's help (1/5/2009 2:13:30 PM)
Ever been to Syracuse?....seems like not much more than a bit of pork....and if there is a place in the USA that needs a bit of development....it's Syracuse! "Although Congel has sometimes given money to Democrats, he is a major Republican campaign fund-raiser. In 2004, he was a "Bush Ranger," gathering more than $200,000 in bundled contributions for the Bush-Cheney re-election effort. In the most recent election cycle, he donated money to the Republican National Committee and to the Republican presidential primary campaigns of Rudolph Giuliani, Fred Thompson and Mitt Romney." A bi-partisan donor....No less....

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