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RE: Someone painting your nails or your house? - 1/6/2009 5:31:14 AM

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I must be spoiled..my Daddy paint's my nails but he loves my feet....
I really get turned on by a Dominant man that can do manly stuff like fix things,I like watching him work,it's hot.

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RE: Someone painting your nails or your house? - 1/7/2009 2:33:19 AM

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i must admit i am not a fixer....ask me to take something down though and i am your guy...btw completely taken.i suppose i could troubleshoot minor repairs.i was too busy playing sports early on and then concentrating on music after that.

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RE: Someone painting your nails or your house? - 1/7/2009 5:19:44 AM

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I just want one that can hold a conversation... skill sets beyond that are just gravy..fix a computer, build a deck, hang a pendent lamp... if he could change the oil in my car and make coherent sentences.. I might just cum in my panties spontaneously on the spot yep yep yep..SD

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RE: Someone painting your nails or your house? - 1/7/2009 5:45:47 AM

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I have this killer fantasy about having a sub half dressed, wearing ankle shackles, slaving away in my back yard mowing, pruning, digging up privet hedge while I sit in the shade in a flowing white lace dress drinking iced tea. Which, naturally he has to refill from time to time. *sigh*

That one sort of expanded into a full chain gang doing all kinds of things around the house... then going over to my dungeon to play a BDSM version of Survivor. All the subs get to vote on who was the Slacker for the day. Slacker gets to be first in either the hot box or the f***ing machine.

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RE: Someone painting your nails or your house? - 1/7/2009 6:18:07 AM

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Chuckles.. Starlett .. you have an over active everything don't you.... but the idea of a game of survivor welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.. Im liking it.

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RE: Someone painting your nails or your house? - 1/7/2009 7:17:11 AM

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When I accepted the responsibility to become Reality's dominant partner I knew he was greatly inexperienced in all aspects of life, he wasn't a handyman, cook, cleaner or sub extroarindaire - he was a computer expert with hands softer than a person doing a washing up commercial.

Almost three years later, he has learned to give the most amazing massages, cook an array of delicious meals (I far prefer his pasta to mine and I'm the experienced cook) and can now turn his hand to almost anything around the home.

People aren't born with an expansion kit of skills, they are acquired and honed later in life, and according to circumstances/experiences, etc... I have always been able to 'do' for myself and companionship was what I initially sought, someone I could share interests, explore my sexuality with and learn to share my personal space which is something I found most difficult in former years - I received the latter and all the former stuff was learned over time and all from an open-heart and willingness to simply... be.

Edited to add: The wallpaper isn't hung flawlessly, it has bumps and knots under it in places, the paint especially on the ceilings looks professionally done and the plumbing works properly - done with teamwork (the both of us). We can picture faces out of the bumps/knots in the wallpaper and we've had many a moment of unbridled debauchery while covered in paint splotches and using a stirrer - none of which could be achieved if I'd sat on my pedestal and instructed him to 'do his job'.

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RE: Someone painting your nails or your house? - 1/7/2009 9:07:16 AM

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I have this killer fantasy about having a sub half dressed, wearing ankle shackles, slaving away in my back yard mowing, .................... Hah ! I remember last summer I was threatening subbie with getting the lawn done before the sun set, told him I would be watching him doing it naked, him holding a flashlight if he had to, and I have close neighbors.........needless to say it was done in the nick of time!

That one sort of expanded into a full chain gang doing all kinds of things around the house... then going over to my dungeon to play a BDSM version of Survivor. All the subs get to vote on who was the Slacker for the day....

I must say I love this idea! It would be a great activity for our local group! Mind if we amend and use your fantasy? Rewards would differ pertaining to our liking of course..........he he Thanks for the idea MsScarlett !

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RE: Someone painting your nails or your house? - 1/7/2009 9:11:33 AM

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quote:

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ORIGINAL: MsStarlett
I have this killer fantasy about having a sub half dressed, wearing ankle shackles, slaving away in my back yard mowing, .................... Hah ! I remember last summer I was threatening subbie with getting the lawn done before the sun set, told him I would be watching him doing it naked, him holding a flashlight if he had to, and I have close neighbors.........needless to say it was done in the nick of time!

That one sort of expanded into a full chain gang doing all kinds of things around the house... then going over to my dungeon to play a BDSM version of Survivor. All the subs get to vote on who was the Slacker for the day....

I must say I love this idea! It would be a great activity for our local group! Mind if we amend and use your fantasy? Rewards would differ pertaining to our liking of course..........he he Thanks for the idea MsScarlett !

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I love this! lol.. but have one thing to say... friggin neighbors can ruin a lot of fantasy!

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RE: Someone painting your nails or your house? - 1/7/2009 9:19:32 AM

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Back to the Op...

I prefer both. Painting nails is a quicker learn than painting a house. I do love it when they expand their skill sets! There have been many tasks he has gone forward, without knowing how to do it, but went in with an open mind, and willingness to try or take direction.

BTW, I love hearing the table saw whirring away in the basement too!

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RE: Someone painting your nails or your house? - 1/7/2009 9:24:44 AM

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Isn't it possible to "mould" a service-type of sub? Ordered, commanded, controlled the right way it should, I'd have thought, be possible to expand the range of services he'll offer.

His main object is to get a certain sort of feeling, not perform a particular kind of act, after all. Is it really that difficult to tap into the average sub's psychological make-up?

I guess this is me being simplistic again, though . . .

I agree that what matters most is to get a certain sort of feeling. However, I think some tasks are more likely to create that feeling. Service comes from different places and for different reasons: expression of D/s as in classic master-servant scenarios, desire to please and be useful, a form of spending D/s quality time directly together, desire for recognition or praise, more. In my opinion, painting nails has potential to touch each of these motivations whereas fixing a car touches motivations two and four. While being told to fix a car has potential to touch motivation one, I think it does not carry as much a flavor of subservience as does being told to paint toes or fetch a drink due to cultural perceptions and the like.

For this reason, I think tasks that are less personal, and that are usually left for professionals (less in the realm of domestic servitude) carry less D/s potential (in comparison to those that are personal and lie more in the realm of domestic or personal servitude) and require that much more return of energy from the dominant. I will add that the matter is person dependent. A sub who is skilled at fixing cars and clumsy at painting toes will find greater gratification of feeling useful and competent (feeds ego component of psyche) in the former than the latter. This matter boosts his sum gratification even if the D/s value is less.

I recognize entirely the point in the OP. However, I think that point about practical utility coexists with the point about practicalities of service. The matter is not black and white but grey and each point of practicality plays a role in where in the shades of grey lies the feeling of each about the role of service in the relationship.

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RE: Someone painting your nails or your house? - 1/7/2009 9:43:02 AM

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Feel free, Ladies. I 'steal' ideas from you fine folk every time I see something interesting. ;)

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RE: Someone painting your nails or your house? - 1/7/2009 1:24:07 PM

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My Lady and I had a chuckle the other night as I was drilling holes in a concrete wall to hang a mirror in front of her hoist - I was the one wearing the dress...

Doesn't matter what your orientation or flavor, if you are of no use to Her in a reasonably broad range of tasks...you are of no use...

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RE: Someone painting your nails or your house? - 1/7/2009 2:45:15 PM

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I've been trying to run through the list of possible jobs and relevant motivations, Sea. I could fix a car but not do nails - yet, I'd rather do the latter. Computers I have no trouble with - but I'd not get a D/s buzz from doing that. It'd feel like I'm doing a favour instead (not that I'd mind, though).

In all seriousness: I think I could probably get a buzz out of doing a huge range of different jobs if it were for a dommie who came out and gave me a kick or slap every, say, half an hour. Lol!

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RE: Someone painting your nails or your house? - 1/7/2009 2:46:58 PM

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My Lady and I had a chuckle the other night as I was drilling holes in a concrete wall to hang a mirror in front of her hoist - I was the one wearing the dress...

That is just deeply, deeply, deeply wrong, Otters.

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RE: Someone painting your nails or your house? - 1/7/2009 3:02:54 PM

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I was just wondering about the hoist......

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RE: Someone painting your nails or your house? - 1/7/2009 3:10:12 PM

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I was just wondering about the hoist......

It's nice! Small block engine hoist...you know...enough to raise...things...off the floor...you know...things that you might want to suspend and such...in front of a whopping big mirror...and then maybe flog...yea...

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RE: Someone painting your nails or your house? - 1/7/2009 6:12:39 PM

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I've been trying to run through the list of possible jobs and relevant motivations, Sea. I could fix a car but not do nails - yet, I'd rather do the latter. Computers I have no trouble with - but I'd not get a D/s buzz from doing that. It'd feel like I'm doing a favour instead (not that I'd mind, though).

Exactly. Doing something to be nice and helpful has a different value. However, it does not touch as much the portions of submission that come from status based masochism as does doing something that has more cultural imagery of subservience attached to it (sitting on the floor and tending to feet). There is power to be tapped through this component.

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In all seriousness: I think I could probably get a buzz out of doing a huge range of different jobs if it were for a dommie who came out and gave me a kick or slap every, say, half an hour. Lol!

I sense you like to serve both to please, and to express submission. Service acts, or a domme who is also able to touch upon the D/s expression will double that that propels you to serve, as well your relationship satisfaction and motivation to continue to serve.

That's service mathematics ;-)

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RE: Someone painting your nails or your house? - 1/7/2009 6:30:43 PM

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It's nice! Small block engine hoist...you know...enough to raise...things...off the floor...you know...things that you might want to suspend and such...in front of a whopping big mirror...and then maybe flog...yea...

Oh now you're just making me hot!

Can you come install one for me? Pretty Please?

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RE: Someone painting your nails or your house? - 1/7/2009 6:36:31 PM

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    I tend to prefer practical skills .   I can do a fair amount myself - but it's sure nice to have someone with the know-how to do the job right - without me . Definitely rather have my house painted , than my toes sucked ! Of course a good massage always works too ...

    I always chuckle when I ask a prospect what their talents/skills are , and they come up with things like :    "takes a beating well , has a big cock , loves being in chastity, doesn't mind ( mind !!?) being tied up for long periods of time" etc.     SO missing the point !

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RE: Someone painting your nails or your house? - 1/7/2009 6:39:07 PM

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I haven't ever wanted a man who would be worked simply because I didn't wish to do things, but in every day life, we have a house and cars to keep up, shopping to do, cooking, laundry and on and on. A man is not doing me a favor to take part in keeping things going. It is something we both work at and is part of a relationship. We make one another's lives easier. Work together, get it done... more play time... all kinds of play.

If a guy must get a rush, high, some sort of something out of doing things for me... we might have a bit of an issue. If I get resistance in taking out the trash and an 'oh yes!' I like to do that... we do have an issue and he is calling the shots and I am asking/expecting only what he likes to do. Who is in charge?

I have watched a man, not living as submissive... do things for his wife and for me simply because it is the right thing to do... he was asked to do it and believe me... he loves it! I have never seen a frown. I have never seen him say... no. He enjoys doing it because it needs to be done, it makes us happy and since we are happy... so is he.

My ex submissive did all sorts of things in a similar manner. He took joy in knowing it needed to be done and it made my day easier and made me happier.

My favorite moments of the day were in the morning... my toughest time... when he set me up with my drinks and way to ease into my day and knelt beside my chair before he left to go to work. Those moments would have meant little to both of us if we didn't have everything else that went with it. The whole picture is the high...

Maybe I got spoiled?

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