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Nibiru - 1/6/2009 1:02:58 AM

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Is it just me or is there some significance to the myths concerning the Horned God, Thor's Hammer, Evolution of the Dinosaurs and their eventual extinction. Are all the changes due in part to the returning entity of this Brown Dwarf.
I find it very interesting how 3 planets share the same Biozone. Venus being very toxic, hellish and corrosive. Earth in the Middle, Mars is cold, alpine, you would need help to breathe if there was not so much CO2. Its just a thought, but what if Mars had an atmosphere at one point or that Venus was actually closer to us in the past and was very much like a desert but livable. There are some examples, anyone at the southern most tip of Australia able to see the same thing. They say it can be seen by those in the south. Any truth to the pics?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-3RLx_4Y5Y

A little more information, with some interesting Pagan origination and depictions

http://revver.com/video/581881/zeta-report-the-passage/

Now this is really interesting, since it talks not only about how earth is warming up but everything else going outwards towards pluto is warming. Strange really since there are no humans out on those planets, but they are warming up also. Take a look at this link too.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-NZz1FOWHpWU/leaked_nibiru_planet_x_hubble_telescope_photos_may_09_06_08/

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RE: Nibiru - 1/6/2009 2:23:10 AM

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It's not just you; it's you and a handful of UFO conspiracy theorists

who conveniently disregard science. The evolution and extinction of dinosaurs is not a myth; we've plenty of evidence to support it. We have no evidence of a large planet entering the solar system and wreaking havoc, nor of an alien race operating a "battle planet" orbiting a brown dwarf. Earth does not share the same "biozone" as Venus or Mars, because Venus and Mars don't have any known biozones. In order to have a biozone, you need fossils. No fossils have ever been recovered from either planet, so no biozones. Mars has an atmosphere; it's just thin. No, you can't see a giant extrasolar planet from Australia or any other part of the world.

I'll tell you what I know for sure.....On January 1, 2013; the loonies will be making up all sorts of reasons the world didn't come to an end. You can count on them picking a new date though.

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RE: Nibiru - 1/6/2009 2:38:00 AM

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ORIGINAL: Aszhrae
Is it just me or is there some significance to the myths concerning the Horned God, Thor's Hammer, Evolution of the Dinosaurs and their eventual extinction. Are all the changes due in part to the returning entity of this Brown Dwarf.

I do not know about the HG and TH, but there is no link to the evolution of the dinosaurs as we know the dinosaur, and though the extinction of the dinosaurs is too peculiar to be merely coincidence, it has nothing to do with Nibiru. Nor was Nibiru a brown dwarf. Nibiru is a fact. The interpretations of the meaning of this fact are erroneous. Being a supergenius and having read about Nibiru in a book by Zecharia Sitchin (?), I know exactly what is referred to - and it is important.

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I find it very interesting how 3 planets share the same Biozone. Venus being very toxic, hellish and corrosive. Earth in the Middle, Mars is cold, alpine, you would need help to breathe if there was not so much CO2. Its just a thought, but what if Mars had an atmosphere at one point or that Venus was actually closer to us in the past and was very much like a desert but livable.

This biozone obviously is a misnomer. Venus never was livable.

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There are some examples, anyone at the southern most tip of Australia able to see the same thing. They say it can be seen by those in the south. Any truth to the pics?

There are plenty of amateur astronomers on the southern hemisphere. If anything truly large was approaching the Sun, they would notice it. So there is little truth to that.

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Take a look at this link too.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-NZz1FOWHpWU/leaked_nibiru_planet_x_hubble_telescope_photos_may_09_06_08/

It is the only link that I watched. It is - with one exception - utter nonsense. The one exception is that indeed Santorini did explode during the Exodus; I realised this at the end of the eighties, in any case after 1986.

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RE: Nibiru - 1/6/2009 3:05:22 AM

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The Niburu are legend, as are greek mythology Gods.

I fear more being stuck in an earthy biosphere by those that consider themselves elitists and some of us are held there like in the movie Total Recall.

Notice there are now shows that now point out men giving birth (on the Oprah show, a gal who advocates human enlightenment), and Little People, Big World.

Now Oprah realized she has been stagnent and unbalanced, allowing herself to be consumed by her body image more than her mind and soul (paraphrasing from her according to her New Life series starting today). "I now thank God that my body has carried me so far" is what she said. She is vacant (as Bob Greene said). Her soul has gone. She lost it in the days she started toying with The Secret and Ken Follett's Pillars of the Earth. She went to hell.

That is what you get for toying with nature.

The Niburu....

from the land that never exsisted. A culture of aliens who adored the human female so much that it wanted to exist here to conquer them? So did Satan, but he was here first. Satan doesn't need otr want aliens from other worlds to disrupt his work here, he only needs allies that are already in his pocket to continue to fund his lifestyle.

That lifestyle is or may be your/my/his/her entire existence...or not.

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RE: Nibiru - 1/6/2009 3:14:14 AM

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Maybe I should have posted this in humor *shrug* Just thought it was interesting, but oh well.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-LcGBM2RzTHo/story_of_nibiru/

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RE: Nibiru - 1/6/2009 3:16:20 AM

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Humour?

too late now, some take the science and study of the Niburu seriously. I don't.

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RE: Nibiru - 1/6/2009 5:53:09 AM

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There's a strong possibility that there is real history at the core of many ancient myths. Just look at how many cultures around the world speak of a flood myth, and now we have evidence that there may indeed have been a catastrophic flood that covered much of the world. Remember that at one time the city of Troy was considered to be a myth as well. I think it's irresponsible and arrogant to simply dismiss all ancient stories and writings as nothing but fantasy without doing some research, especially when there are consistent threads among a variety of ancient peoples.

Facts are facts. It is our knowledge of facts that change. If our knowledge is incomplete how can we say we KNOW something is or is not true? Science is the pursuit of truth wherever it may lead even if that is to strange unlikely territory, which is my favorite place to be.

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RE: Nibiru - 1/6/2009 5:59:08 AM

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I agree.

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RE: Nibiru - 1/6/2009 6:18:04 AM

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Facts are facts.

Unless of course; you're in politics

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RE: Nibiru - 1/6/2009 12:01:53 PM

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Just look at how many cultures around the world speak of a flood myth, and now we have evidence that there may indeed have been a catastrophic flood that covered much of the world.

Cultures around the world talk about catostrophic floods, because early civilizations started on river banks. Since some of the most fertile soil exists in flood plains, ancient civilizations dealt with flooding all the time. Sometimes, those floods were larger than others. We have zero evidence of a world wide flood during mankind's small time on this planet. It doesn't exist in the geologic record.

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RE: Nibiru - 1/6/2009 12:04:30 PM

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The study of science is breaking new ground daily, maybe it is just a matter of time until the truth of myth emerges. Just keep an open mind on it all, unless you yourself can prove otherwise.

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RE: Nibiru - 1/6/2009 1:48:19 PM

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RE: Nibiru - 1/6/2009 4:32:31 PM

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All those that were lured into the belief of magic but such games like D&D instead of sitting down and reading the bible, we are all going to hell. Dunno about you but I might have more fun in hell than being bored playing canasta for all eternity. Kidding of course. I don't believe in either of those places.

The last link was interesting, wasn't it?

I do believe that change is coming.
And Nibiru is an interesting subject to have as a thread.

I also believe that those of us that enjoy roleplaying games and video games are probably open-minded to new possibilities than most people that believe they are the center of the world. Much like the entire universe once centered about the planet, and that the sun and planets revolved around earth. I would also like to think that most game players are also very interested in life that doesn't look anything like us.
Example: the dinosaurs were here for millions of years and scientists would have us believe in all that time that the ability to reason did not occur along with the development of thumbs and the development of tools -- the ST:NG, Voyager, episode made for an interesting thought
Are we as humans so into our self-importance that we can not believe that there are other beings capable of thought than we. If I were an alien in UFO visiting earth, I would not be making first contact, since I would consider us barbarians and a violent race.
I honestly believe, if Nibiru does influence our planet's gravity well that causes the planet to speed up, tilt the planet the other way or cause a reverse in the planet's poles. It might be just nature of the universe doing its thing. If it does happen, we as humans will find out just how insignificant to the mechanisations of the universe we actually are. Our own planet threatened will be a humbling experience for some, some will use fear to grab power, some will use fanaticism to pursue their own agendas, the worst in some will become known.
If something like this does affect the planet as a whole, people will certainly learn who is or who is not their friends.

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RE: Nibiru - 1/6/2009 4:56:16 PM

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Just look at how many cultures around the world speak of a flood myth, and now we have evidence that there may indeed have been a catastrophic flood that covered much of the world.

Cultures around the world talk about catostrophic floods, because early civilizations started on river banks. Since some of the most fertile soil exists in flood plains, ancient civilizations dealt with flooding all the time. Sometimes, those floods were larger than others. We have zero evidence of a world wide flood during mankind's small time on this planet. It doesn't exist in the geologic record.

Oh please. That is the lamest excuse I've ever heard for the flood myth. Try again.

The geologic record? Is this something I can put on my turntable?

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RE: Nibiru - 1/6/2009 6:05:57 PM

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Oh please. That is the lamest excuse I've ever heard for the flood myth. Try again.

The geologic record? Is this something I can put on my turntable?

Yeah, it's lame. But a worldwide flood occurring during modern man's history is plausible, even though no evidence exists to support it?

A worldwide flood would leave behind physical traces of its occurrence. It would show up in past erosion, and in the fossil record for the proposed time period; ie the GEOLOGIC RECORD. However, no evidence like that exists.

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RE: Nibiru - 1/6/2009 6:51:12 PM

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Ever been to the huge gap in the ground that is in Arizona? Ever wondered why nearly all megafauna died all at once at the end of the ice age? Ever read about the drowned cities at the coast of India?

There is plenty of geological evidence to support the oral histories about the Flood of all the peoples.

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RE: Nibiru - 1/6/2009 6:53:08 PM

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Yeah, it's lame. But a worldwide flood occurring during modern man's history is plausible, even though no evidence exists to support it?

A worldwide flood would leave behind physical traces of its occurrence. It would show up in past erosion, and in the fossil record for the proposed time period; ie the GEOLOGIC RECORD. However, no evidence like that exists.

Years ago I was into archaeology and I was given a set of three books, what they were about I did'nt know at the time, only that they had archaeology written on the front. On examining these books I discovered they were in fact books that used science in support of the Bible, one was archaeology, another was geology and the other I forget the discipline. I remember reading in one of these books that the Earth has shifted on it's axis due to the fact the Earth is not a sphere, but in fact an oblate spheroid, it has a large eccentric mass roughly where Russia exists. I Believe this planet is still not spinning on a true axis, but is in fact cavitating around a true axis. Anyway, at some point the earth shifted on it's axis, that kind of movement would be felt, fluid would move where it will in response, so it would cover land, a flood.

There is also fairly recent findings to suggest that sea water rose sharply to a height of some five hundred feet in the Black Sea area, and there covering around 60, 000 square miles of land around 7500 years ago, so catastrophic floods have happened, who says that they have not happened in man's lifetime ? Noah's flood might have been this flood, how old is the Old Testament ?

Why drill holes in big rocks

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RE: Nibiru - 1/6/2009 7:01:03 PM

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Is this a back-track to the '70s pop culture phenom, as in
Chariots of the Gods by Erich Von Daniken?

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RE: Nibiru - 1/6/2009 7:27:38 PM

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Ever been to the huge gap in the ground that is in Arizona? Ever wondered why nearly all megafauna died all at once at the end of the ice age? Ever read about the drowned cities at the coast of India?

There is plenty of geological evidence to support the oral histories about the Flood of all the peoples.

Yep, I sure have. The Grand Canyon is the result of millions of years of erosion, not a worldwide flood. The Grand Canyon was already formed long before modern humans ever walked the Earth.

The Holocene extinction after the last Ice Age is ongoing. A lot of reasons exist for it including climate change, deforestation, invasive species, overhunting by humans, etc. However, there is still no evidence that any species that have went extinct since the beginning of the Holocene extinction died out because of a worldwide flood.

I've read about flooded cities in coastal areas all over the world. Sea levels change for a variety of reasons. The coasts of India have experienced flooding caused by tsunamis for millions of years. It isn't proof of a worldwide flood. Tsunamis occur today. Even a megatsunami wouldn't cause a flooding of the entire world.

Like I said, there is no geologic evidence to support a worldwide flood.

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RE: Nibiru - 1/6/2009 9:25:58 PM

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Yeah, it's lame. But a worldwide flood occurring during modern man's history is plausible, even though no evidence exists to support it?

A worldwide flood would leave behind physical traces of its occurrence. It would show up in past erosion, and in the fossil record for the proposed time period; ie the GEOLOGIC RECORD. However, no evidence like that exists.

Years ago I was into archaeology and I was given a set of three books, what they were about I did'nt know at the time, only that they had archaeology written on the front. On examining these books I discovered they were in fact books that used science in support of the Bible, one was archaeology, another was geology and the other I forget the discipline. I remember reading in one of these books that the Earth has shifted on it's axis due to the fact the Earth is not a sphere, but in fact an oblate spheroid, it has a large eccentric mass roughly where Russia exists. I Believe this planet is still not spinning on a true axis, but is in fact cavitating around a true axis. Anyway, at some point the earth shifted on it's axis, that kind of movement would be felt, fluid would move where it will in response, so it would cover land, a flood.

There is also fairly recent findings to suggest that sea water rose sharply to a height of some five hundred feet in the Black Sea area, and there covering around 60, 000 square miles of land around 7500 years ago, so catastrophic floods have happened, who says that they have not happened in man's lifetime ? Noah's flood might have been this flood, how old is the Old Testament ?

Why drill holes in big rocks

I don't know what these books actually were since you provided no identifying information but your claims based on them are wrong.

A shift in the earth's rotation would have no effect on the seas since the movement of the axis is a smooth progressive affair. The earth doesn't stop rotating and start rotating around a new axis.

The Black Sea flood is not the source of the Babylonian flood story that the bible story is based on. More than likely the tales origin lies in an unusually bad spring flood of the Tigres and/or Euphrates.

As to Ron Wyatt's assorted and sundry claims, it is simpler to point to a thorough debunking than to bother going over all the outright lies and deceptions even on that single page.

From a christian evangelical group:
http://www.tentmaker.org/Dew/Dew7/D7-AGreatChristianScam.html

A basic scientific response:
http://toarchive.org/indexcc/CH/CH503.html

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