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Madame4a -> RE: how do you react that a Mistress use her gift simply because she finds the male gendar distastful ? (1/9/2009 3:25:33 PM)
I have to ask what you mean by that... quote: ORIGINAL: chezzy71 what does it matter stevie??we are all different with the only common thread being we embrace bdsm and the lifestyle.that is almost saying are you ok with a Domina being a lesbian or bi and now you are all knowing that any attempt to petition might be fruitless.if you don'y like someone's sexual proclivities..move on.

MsStarlett -> RE: how do you react that a Mistress use her gift simply because she finds the male gendar distastful ? (1/9/2009 3:57:52 PM)
I would never waste my time with a sub in a 'session' that I wouldn't want to spend 'vanilla' time with. I gotta like you as a human being first.

Dastan -> RE: how do you react that a Mistress use her gift simply because she finds the male gendar distastf (1/10/2009 7:09:26 AM)
I guess that for someone to Dominate a person they find as part of a group of people she targets, based on biases and dislikes, that Dominant Lady is looking for someone to torture without guilt and to go as hard as she can on her "victim" because she cannot separate the gift of Domination and the play style from the concept of punishment and aggression tied to her mind. In other words, you don't punch people you like and when you punch someone because you dislike them, you don't pull the punches so much. It's why fighters hate to get on the ring, tatami or cage with friends.

Lockit -> RE: how do you react that a Mistress use her gift simply because she finds the male gendar distastf (1/10/2009 7:40:41 AM)
What?! A woman who would do this would feel no quilt, she wouldn't need excuses. Her actions would be justified in her own mind... which I would have no relation to. I don't get your concept Dastan.

LadyHibiscus -> RE: how do you react that a Mistress use her gift simply because she finds the male gendar distastf (1/10/2009 8:42:17 AM)
I do understand what you mean, Dastan. In an s/m relationship, though, the freedom is in knowing that you CAN pull punches with your partner, because you trust each other. He knows that while I will give him pain, sometimes in ways he does not like, I will not INJURE him, and that I will take care of him. I know that he will not resent me for what I am doing, because I am expressing my deepest desires and he accepts them. I've seen some videos of those man-hating women, and the men who want to be harmed... it was just disturbing. I love the sight of blood and welts, but I know I could not have stayed on the set if I had been working that film crew!

T1981 -> RE: how do you react that a Mistress use her gift simply because she finds the male gendar distastf (1/10/2009 8:46:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus I do understand what you mean, Dastan. In an s/m relationship, though, the freedom is in knowing that you CAN pull punches with your partner, because you trust each other. He knows that while I will give him pain, sometimes in ways he does not like, I will not INJURE him, and that I will take care of him. I know that he will not resent me for what I am doing, because I am expressing my deepest desires and he accepts them. I've seen some videos of those man-hating women, and the men who want to be harmed... it was just disturbing. I love the sight of blood and welts, but I know I could not have stayed on the set if I had been working that film crew! Agreed. Sadism and contempt are two different things. One comes with (hopefully) a respect for the human body and mind, the other comes with no such thing. I would not be comfortable working with someone who had nothing but contempt for my gender. I enjoy being hurt because I enjoy pushing those limits, not because I think I deserve it.

Lockit -> RE: how do you react that a Mistress use her gift simply because she finds the male gendar distastf (1/10/2009 8:46:10 AM)
LH... see that is how I see it too... I wasn't getting the relation on how things were worded by Dastan I guess. My 'What?!'... I didn't know if it was me or what... but I didn't get it. I guess the guilt thing and not hitting someone you liked threw me a bit. lol Gotta love a morning after too little sleep! Yikes!

Dastan -> RE: how do you react that a Mistress use her gift simply because she finds the male gendar distastf (1/10/2009 4:17:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit What?! A woman who would do this would feel no quilt, she wouldn't need excuses. Her actions would be justified in her own mind... which I would have no relation to. I don't get your concept Dastan. Mistress Lockit....although YOU are, along with the distinguished Mistresses I have come across and learned so much int hsi website and forums, a sane, balanced and caring individual who does BDSM out of LOVE, the ugly truth is that there are people who are NOT like you and do this because for them, it's easier to use something they don't like or care about as a good punching sandbag top hit and vent out their frustrations knowing when to stop so as to not break it. Unfortunately, the world IS full of such people. And some Dommes don't love the other person as much as doing what they do, to someone they hate enough to allow them to go as far as they can.

Dastan -> RE: how do you react that a Mistress use her gift simply because she finds the male gendar distastf (1/10/2009 4:33:48 PM)
Dear Mistress T1981 and Lady Hibiscus, you are correct in your assesment of my words. And I am thankful that Mistress Lockit also sees the meaning now thanks to your efforts and kind comments, excuse me for any inconveniences as I am not a native English speaker, despite my command of your language and terminology. As for pain and harm, as Lady Hibiscus said, i'd likem her to expand on this words... "...I've seen some videos of those man-hating women, and the men who want to be harmed... it was just disturbing. I love the sight of blood and welts, but I know I could not have stayed on the set if I had been working that film crew!..." Due to my training, I can tell what happens to a body and what will it cost it, in terms of damage, permanent, long-lasting or temporary, if you do this or that to any part or area, in this or that manner and for how long you do it or how many times or how often you do it on said area. I'd like to know if you can elaborate on such practices, since it would help us understand where the limit is, the edge of the abyss so that we do brake before falling off of it and still come as close as possible to such limit to see into the abyss and catch a glimpse of its bottom without risking a fall too much.

steviemichael -> RE: how do you react that a Mistress use her gift simply because she finds the male gendar distastful ? (1/11/2009 3:41:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thetammyjo So a question back to you, steviemichael: What do you think of a man who agrees to be with such a woman? How healthy is he? if a man agrees to be with such a Mistress than it is consentual ! the second you ask how healthy is he ? i assume you are asking is he of sane mind and of this persons mind set. Since i dont have any one man as a exsample lets call him X ; if X consents to be misused and X knows that a Mistress treats him like a human being,he is going to think the Mistress ' like him' and this would not fullfill what he is seeking he seeks one who will *aid his restitution* ( the law of gains-based recovery)**it is of my view that many Mistress decline to be used in this way and seek in their own minds healthy minded subs. My main question was that misuse of the gifts can be very useful to one i called X has he sees those misused gifts has a path of self fullfillment.

ALAstella -> RE: how do you react that a Mistress use her gift simply because she finds the male gendar distastful ? (1/11/2009 4:03:50 AM)
Issues over gender is the biggest threat to society and civilisation as we know it. stella

MistressRouge -> RE: how do you react that a Mistress use her gift simply because she finds the male gendar distastful ? (1/11/2009 4:19:29 AM)
I have known of one ex-pro-Domme personally, that operated in a "man hating" manner, she actually told me, and told her clients that she did infact hate men. She seemed to attract clients because of this very reason, however I still didnt get her mindset, but respected her honesty about it. I love men, and could never play/session or interact with those I didnt like, maybe it is down to personal choice, as with all aspects [:)]

Dastan -> RE: how do you react that a Mistress use her gift simply because she finds the male gendar distastful ? (1/11/2009 7:41:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressRouge I have known of one ex-pro-Domme personally, that operated in a "man hating" manner, she actually told me, and told her clients that she did infact hate men. She seemed to attract clients because of this very reason, however I still didnt get her mindset, but respected her honesty about it. I love men, and could never play/session or interact with those I didnt like, maybe it is down to personal choice, as with all aspects [:)] Sites such as OWK, FemdomExtreme and EnglishMansion or Cruella and Asian femdom delve deeply into the allure that it has for some men to eb turned into mindless bollocks for field labor and neutered/spayet pet dogs to serve and play tricks, like eunuch butlers and punching bags. To me, this means that there are some people who use BDSM to flagellate themselves through a Mistress as an act of self´-punitive penance. Guilt over their role as males vs their submissive traits. But if it is consensual, and to answer the same way as steviemichael did to Mistress TammyJo, I'd say that the only problem is the same as the limits one: How to stop in time, and when is enough to stop ?

beeble -> RE: how do you react that a Mistress use her gift simply because she finds the male gendar distastful ? (1/11/2009 10:15:18 AM)
quote: Dastan wrote: ... mindless bollocks for field labor... I know English isn't your first language but I'm still awarding Typo of the Week for that one. [:D] For future reference, bollocks=testicles or nonsense; bullocks=male cattle. beeble.

DrkJourney -> RE: how do you react that a Mistress use her gift simply because she finds the male gendar distastful ? (1/11/2009 10:22:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit I read it as has been suggested here and my first impulse... that isn't sad, it is dangerous. Was my first thought as well. Then I wondered....why do you care? I mean you're a Dom, shouldn't affect you one way or the other, you won't be submitting to anyone?

Dastan -> RE: how do you react that a Mistress use her gift simply because she finds the male gendar distastful ? (1/11/2009 12:09:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: beeble quote: Dastan wrote: ... mindless bollocks for field labor... I know English isn't your first language but I'm still awarding Typo of the Week for that one. [:D] For future reference, bollocks=testicles or nonsense; bullocks=male cattle. beeble. In the inmortal words of Homer Simpson..... "..."D'oh ! " I meant bulls who got their little testes cut off and now are just eunuch bulls...... Well...I guess prizes are good...so here's my speech of acceptance: ":..First of all, I want to thank the Academy for this award, and of course, God, and all my fans and the people behind the lens, the producers, supporters, the sponsors, my teachers, my family, Mom, my wonderful cast co-stars, God Bless you ALL for this hard work to help me get this prize, I wish you all the best, peace and thanks..." I guess I need to go back to the drawing table...

IamShe -> RE: how do you react that a Mistress use her gift simply because she finds the male gendar distastful ? (1/11/2009 3:02:35 PM)
I've heard this a lot from male 'Dom's who truly believe a woman's nature should be to serve a man and any deviation from that 'norm' must mean a Dominatrice is therefore a 'man hater'. Fortunately, I don't set much store by any male dominant's opinion of Me or of what it is that I do. I am She ps "gender" is spelled *g e n d E r* .

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