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RE: Extreme Degradation and Verbal abuse - 1/12/2009 12:46:44 PM   
LadyPact


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I'm kind of surprised that the mods haven't pulled one thread or the other, especially since this was cross posted on two forums.  However, I'll just reprint what I said over there, in here.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

OK, OP, here's the deal.  First of all, do Me a favor and refrain from using abbreviations that not everyone is going to get.  When you said VA, I literally thought you had some kind of medical fetish that had to do with the Veteran's Administration. 

Second, from a Dominant's perspective, you just have to understand why extreme verbal abuse/degredation isn't an activity that's taken lightly.  Do you have any idea of the potential pitfalls that can be encountered when doing this?

I can beat someone physically all day long.  I can check his/her body for scars from prior injuries or see wounds and avoid those areas.  The same isn't true on the mental/emotional plane.  Unless I put the work into the talking, investigating, researching, and discussing, how in the hell do I know that something I might use might trigger a horrible childhood memory of when someone was gang raped when they were less than a consenting adult?  I don't.  That makes it dangerous for Me and potentially harmful to the person I'm playing with.




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RE: Extreme Degradation and Verbal abuse - 1/12/2009 1:15:19 PM   
beeble


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quote:

mikierotten wrote:
I genuinly love being made to feel inferior to others and verbally debased in a very extreme manner, but find that most Dommes find this Fetish too extreme for them. Are there any Dommes who enjoy this fetish? Or am i alone, lost at sea here in San Francisco?

Well, pretty much by construction, there can't be many Dommes who enjoy extreme X because, if they did, it would just be regular X.

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RE: Extreme Degradation and Verbal abuse - 1/12/2009 2:15:25 PM   
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I don't know why your respondent had trouble with "VA", LP - it's perfectly obvious to me that you were referring to D/s activities that take place in the Victoria and Albert Museum in London. 

I think that respondent has a point, though.  One insulting word could do nothing but give a nice little maso buzz; another could cut like a knife.  Recalling that programme about the brothel again, the customers actually made lists of words with the pro-dommes and graded each of the worst in terms of how insulting they'd feel - and the pro-dommes wouldn't stray from those lists.  Tricky business.

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RE: Extreme Degradation and Verbal abuse - 1/13/2009 3:33:41 AM   
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i can fully see how both sides view this type of play . can it be safe to say that it appears more subs may like or seek being verbaly abuse or degraded ?   As for the Mistresses / Dommes  do you talk or ask your new sub or a sub you may deal with if they are seeking this type of paly or do you want for the sub too ask you or admiit they seek it

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