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doll -> Burning Both Ends (1/6/2006 1:54:27 PM)

I just have a comment to make, not going to name names or anything. Recently, I was approached by my friend MistressOfGa to have a play session with her and her ex submissive, She informed me he was a switch, so I was not against the idea, though I wouldn't be against it if he was only sub either. As things turned out we were unable to connect because of various reasons. This male sub has been asking/begging Mistress to take him back, as he had asked for his release earlier this year, so this was going to be a reunion of sorts. Well as the negotiations continued for an hour, me and Mistress noticed that he was all about his pleasure and what he could get out of it. She questioned him on it, he started changing his tune a bit by saying whatever She wanted was what he would do, but it kept going back to HIS wants and desires, so She and I decided to not do it. He messaged me behind Her back telling me everything he wanted to do to and with me while messaging Her telling Her how badly he wanted to be Hers. I know Mistress in real life, we live in the same town and have been close friends as well as play partners, so there was no way I was going to allow this guy to play both of us. My friendship with Mistress is too important to me and to her to allow him to come between us and play us against each other.




LadyJC -> RE: Burning Both Ends (1/6/2006 2:08:33 PM)

Sounds like my ex sub. I didn't see it until later but he so topped from the bottom. If he wanted to play...we'd play although there were a few times where I saw him tied to the bed after I got home and just ignored him, other times I'd end up playing.
However whenever I wanted to play it was a huge struggle, he said that's what made it so fun by the time I'd have him tied down, I'd be too tired to play with him and totally out of breath.
It was all about his wants and needs. Mine never mattered. He took advantage of me in so many ways that now I'll have a hard time trusting anyone (for a while anyways.)
I can't say how you feel on your side but I could probably relate with your friend. Personally I wouldn't go with him for a few reasons...1. He sounds like a selfish dick head.
2. He's stabbing his ex mistress in the back by saying he wants her while telling you he wants you. To me it sounds like he'll take anyone as long as it's a piece of ass for him.

3. He sounds like the type of guy who's lucky to have 2 braincells to rub together.

If anyone wants to flame me for this go ahead, but I've dealt with too many types of these guys from what's being said to fully understand what she's talking about. (Vanilla and BDSM)




doll -> RE: Burning Both Ends (1/6/2006 2:16:43 PM)

Funny thing is, me and Her copied and pasted the conversation to each other and got the entire truth, he tried worming his way out of it, saying that he thought that what was SHE wanted.... blah




KnightofMists -> RE: Burning Both Ends (1/6/2006 2:18:22 PM)

and the point of this post is??




MHOO314 -> RE: Burning Both Ends (1/6/2006 3:26:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

and the point of this post is??



Yeah I was there too Knight, should have been maybe in Off Topic, I guess its to point out the wankers, but heck its a new moon, they abound---




Sensualips -> RE: Burning Both Ends (1/6/2006 4:13:27 PM)

In theory, I am not sure I see the problem. Generally I would not consider it inappropriate for someone not in a collared or monogamous relationship to pursue whatever interests he or she may have. You simply decline if you are not interested or fear it may cause an issue.

Of course in this specific case I am sure you have a much better idea of his intent, his "worming", or any deception that might have been associated with it. Perhaps he could have been more open and perhaps he could have taken the relationship you share with your friend into account and considered the appropriateness.




Noah -> RE: Burning Both Ends (1/6/2006 4:17:11 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

and the point of this post is??


Maybe some age-players like to really round things out with full fully orchestrated scenes of circa Junior High School he-said, she-said?

Too edgey for me.





MizSuz -> RE: Burning Both Ends (1/6/2006 4:25:53 PM)

Well, having only this side to see I'd have to repeat what someone once told me:

"You just can't hide NO CLASS."






Petruchio -> RE: Burning Both Ends (1/6/2006 5:14:37 PM)

Next time, how about scrolling down and finding the right place to post this? Ask a Master/Mistress/Sub, whatever? This way the rest of us aren't sucked into an intriguing title only to find all this needless drama.

That said, I will add a word that in real life in almost every situation, it's not all about the dom's needs, just as it isn't all about you. That's why it's hard for a dom to find a matching sub.




DelRey -> RE: Burning Both Ends (1/6/2006 6:21:47 PM)

Sounds ripe for the Jerry Springer show.




Petruchio -> RE: Burning Both Ends (1/6/2006 8:10:56 PM)

By the way, I hadn't noticed you were a novice with only 10 posts, so ignore my grumpiness… this one time.

whiplash!




truesub4u -> RE: Burning Both Ends (1/6/2006 8:24:36 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DelRey

Sounds ripe for the Jerry Springer show.



Maury perhaps even?... no wait.... no DNA who's my daddy involved yet... never mind.




brightspot -> RE: Burning Both Ends (1/6/2006 9:11:07 PM)

quote:

Sounds ripe for the Jerry Springer show.


Hahaha! Wonder who here would go for the beads[:D]

*Brightspot




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Burning Both Ends (1/6/2006 9:12:58 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Noah


quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

and the point of this post is??


Maybe some age-players like to really round things out with full fully orchestrated scenes of circa Junior High School he-said, she-said?

Too edgey for me.


snicker

What's so wrong about the sub talking about what they want? We're talking about a play scene here- not a life contract of service. People take play too seriously.




Wolfie648 -> RE: Burning Both Ends (1/6/2006 10:31:07 PM)

quote:

What's so wrong about the sub talking about what they want? We're talking about a play scene here- not a life contract of service. People take play too seriously.


Yeh, like it means something wtf!

D (owner of j)




windchymes -> RE: Burning Both Ends (1/7/2006 6:55:05 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DelRey

Sounds ripe for the Jerry Springer show.


Anyone here ever notice that the set of the Springer show is a sewer? Not that I'd lower myself to watch Jerry Springer, oh no.....[8|]

chymes




MrDiscipline44 -> RE: Burning Both Ends (1/7/2006 7:38:13 AM)

Hmmm, I've read and re-read this post. I've looked at it from all angles possible. The only thing I can come up with is:
Who the hell cares?!?
This is only a "Why men are bad, bad people" type of post that is really a load of crap. If he bottom-topped her before, which is probably why they are no longer together, then of course he is going to try it again. He got away with it once, he'll want to see if he can again. People are like that. Not all people, mind you. But obviously he is.
The fact that you had to post it just makes you a petty little person. Get over it. He tried, it failed, move on. You're thirty, not 7 on the playground, sweetheart.

And Lady JC, I understand that you've had time after time whith guys like this but really, no one wants a Dom/me with baggage; who can't get past their own emotional hang ups. It's the same for subs, switches, witches and guard dogs. You need to look at what attracted you to these guys and start changing what you are looking for so you don't get another guy like this again.

Just so you know, I've had two failed marriages and countless relationships of both the short and long term types. It wasn't until I looked at what attracted me to these women and changed that, that I started to have more fulfilling relationships. I left the baggage at the door and proceeded on with my life. You should at least think of doing the same.




windchymes -> RE: Burning Both Ends (1/7/2006 8:39:15 AM)

Wow, MrD, it took me 43 years to have the two failed marriages. [:D] Of course, it took me equally as many years to recognize the bad traits that I was attracted to and began to change......so congratulations on doing that much more quickly than I did.

Best of luck, hope you find her soon!

chymes




MistressOfGa -> RE: Burning Both Ends (1/7/2006 9:11:28 AM)

I am amazed at the amount of pettiness on this thread. Doll is new here and yes, she may have posted in the wrong section, but some of you should be ashamed at your replies. Give the girl a break for God's sakes, like you have never been new to this forum?

KoM- Maybe she just wanted to share? I read these boards everyday and I find ALOT of posts where I see no point of them being posted, but I dont try to embarrass the OP or belittle them for what they have posted. IMO, your comment was rude and uncalled for.

Petruchio - Thank you for noticing that she is new to the forums. Maybe she didnt feel like it was "needless drama" perhaps she just wanted to share what had happened with people who, even I thought, were more open minded than this.

MrDiscipline- I find your remarks the most distasteful. "The fact that you had to post it just makes you a petty little person. Get over it. He tried, it failed, move on. You're thirty, not 7 on the playground, sweetheart" I dont think her post makes her a petty person, I think it makes her new to the forums and human. What is your excuse?

I have always been told, if you have nothing positive or good to say than you should just keep your thoughts to yourself. Doll came on this forum to post about an experience, it is not the be all end all of her life. Maybe she did post in the wrong area, but how many times has that happened with new people? And yes I am being protective, she is my friend and a very very sweet person, she didn't/doesn't deserve the snickers and childish comments made to her.

No wonder there are so many out here who are fearful of posting to the boards. Look at the wonderful welcome they get.




doll -> RE: Burning Both Ends (1/7/2006 9:55:42 AM)

I am sorry to those who were offended that I posted in the wrong place and I appreciate the mature comments that were made. However, I find it funny that You come on here ridiculiing me for being childish and petty. The way You showed Yourself and Your lack of respect for another persons experience or opinion probably can account to part of the failure of these relationships You pointed out. I have read some pointless and some rather stupid posts, but I feel that it was important to be able to express one's opinion. I have read about Doms/Dominas/subs complaining about not getting responses from their emails....and You call mine petty??




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