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RE: Bruises and bruise-free play - 1/6/2006 7:12:17 PM   
IrishMist


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Status: offline 		biting very rarely leaves bruises on me, unless the skin is broken enough to draw blood...I have always bruised with a cane...only once during breath play did I come away with bruises on my neck...clothespins very rarely leave bruises on me, unless they are on for a really long time with some impact thrown in

Ya'll need to stop, making me envious here

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RE: Bruises and bruise-free play - 1/6/2006 8:10:59 PM   
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1-- Bruises -- How do you feel about causing / getting bruises as part of play? Are there safety issues to be mindful of? (Bruises here are NOT injuries, broken bones or more serious harm.)



i very much enjoy getting bruises and marks on my body. I look at the bruises after play and i get a deep feeling of warmth and contentment. They are a visual reminder of the play and flow of energy between my Lord and I.

The most significant marks that i have are the cuttings from my Lord. They are significant not only for the marking of my body as His, but also because the feel of the knife dragging on my skin is the sensation that i find the hardest to handle. A lot of people who have watched me get a cutting can attest that my screams, cries and sobs were very extreme reactions. It is because of that trouble with dealing with the sensation that these marks have more significance.

Safety issues are different then health issues in my opinion. For safety issues one has to watch where and the extent of heavy bruising on the body that might show to people in our daily life. In a lot of countries, states or provinces it is the police that decide if abuse charges will be laid and not the person who receives the bruises.

For health issues one has to make sure the bottom/sub/slave is not on medicine for thinning of their blood as this can increase the size of the bruise or medicine for clotting of the blood as this can increase the chance of a clot forming in the bruise then moving in to the blood stream.

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RE: Bruises and bruise-free play - 1/6/2006 8:11:44 PM   
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"This is what interests me at the moment-- two questions --

1-- Bruises -- How do you feel about causing / getting bruises as part of play? Are there safety issues to be mindful of? (Bruises here are NOT injuries, broken bones or more serious harm.)"

This is a good question mainly because I don't understand why we might like giving or having bruises. I love leaving marks from a paddle or spanking, and (like today) when my boy first sits down after a punishment and winces, I feel really happy! Sadist, I know. But why do some of us like leaving marks, or having marks left on us? maybe some basic and primitive thing i.e. This is Mine. (or alternatively i am Yours) ??

Also, in the past, when I had to be careful about not leaving marks, I found it slightly unsatisfying.

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RE: Bruises and bruise-free play - 1/6/2006 8:17:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: IrishMist

biting very rarely leaves bruises on me, unless the skin is broken enough to draw blood...I have always bruised with a cane...only once during breath play did I come away with bruises on my neck...clothespins very rarely leave bruises on me, unless they are on for a really long time with some impact thrown in

Ya'll need to stop, making me envious here



I bruise really easy on my breast. Being popped, slapped will leave lovely bruises for like 2-3 weeks at a time. To me they're wonderful. When i look at them, I get really excited thinking of how they came to be there.

When it comes to spankings, I've turned red. A few welts. that hung around for about to an hour or so. But nothing more. I think I almost cried when they disappeared one time... LOL


As much as I love to be nibbled, bitten. Suck marks on th neck are a big turn off to me. I don't like me them on me or Master. Though I do had to admit, when Master decides my neck is his target, I live with it... and enjoy it for awhile. Walking around looking like I got into a fight with the vaccum cleaner and it winning isn't as appealing to me at near 40 as it was in teens... LOL (Not knocking age, just personal preferance here all) But anywhere else that can be easily hidden with clothing... shoot... mark all you want... LOL

Now that I finally got to see what a flogger is and will soon be feeling a flogger... I can't wait to see what it leaves behind on me.... (Big Grin)

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RE: Bruises and bruise-free play - 1/6/2006 8:23:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		I like marks as long as it was fun getting them and they can be hidden under clothes. I like the memories. This said, I don't use a health club right now. If I did, it'd be a pain to have to undress in some discreet closeted place, but I would to avoid stares. I am very fair and bruise easily. We especially like the (temporary :() ligature patterns from rope.

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RE: Bruises and bruise-free play - 1/6/2006 9:07:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterLark
1-- Bruises -- How do you feel about causing / getting bruises as part of play? Are there safety issues to be mindful of? (Bruises here are NOT injuries, broken bones or more serious harm.)

Love em. I'm young and in pretty good condition, so bruise away!
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2--Bruise-free play -- Is there a way to play vigorously (roughly) (however you define those words) and not cause any bruises? To be wholly aroused, bound etc and not bruised.

It's possible to be bound without bruising, but it's impossible to assure that it won't happen.

It's possible to play hard without marks, mentally at least, lots of humiliation and such. Physically however, if you play hard, bruises are possible. There's places on the body to hit, ways to hit and instruments to use that reduce the likelihood, but if you play physically, you accept it. Just like hiking or any other physical activity.

I suppose inherent in both questions is the discussion of just what causes a bruise. I ask because this is good information to know and because some women in particular have sensitive skin more prone to bruising and do not wish more bruising than can be helped.

Ideas, thoughts, stories, tips all welcome.



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RE: Bruises and bruise-free play - 1/6/2006 9:10:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Smythe
But why do some of us like leaving marks, or having marks left on us? maybe some basic and primitive thing i.e. This is Mine. (or alternatively i am Yours) ??Smythe

Marking as property is indeed one of the biggest reasons.

We also like trophies of endurance (see also scar comparing).

Having a physical symbol of a shared experience is important to people, that's why collars are so popular.

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RE: Bruises and bruise-free play - 1/6/2006 10:01:56 PM   
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Walking around looking like I got into a fight with the vaccum cleaner and it winning isn't as appealing to me at near 40 as it was in teens


LMAO Hickey magnet?

You need some real marks my dear.......bite marks that look like bite marks, that bruise, and turn colors...........now thats a REAL hickey



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RE: Bruises and bruise-free play - 1/6/2006 10:43:57 PM   
jamesthehumanrug


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Status: offline 		greetings master lark
i seldom bruise
only if its outside a relationship in an assault
where i get senomas clotts broken veins(emergency)
and if you do get bruises theres the miricle makeup called
pan-stick
covers anything
upon initiation i got huge purple stomach bruises but cant say i recall much about bruises
i hate to have old yellow and brown bruises and
look like an old ripe banana anyway
but its a thot....

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RE: Bruises and bruise-free play - 1/6/2006 10:45:49 PM   
IrishMist


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hate to have old yellow and brown bruises and
look like an old ripe banana anyway


an old ripe banana

/giggles at the image

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RE: Bruises and bruise-free play - 1/7/2006 5:12:50 AM   
MasterLark


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ORIGINAL: jamesthehumanrug

greetings master lark
i seldom bruise
only if its outside a relationship in an assault
where i get senomas clotts broken veins(emergency)
and if you do get bruises theres the miricle makeup called
pan-stick
covers anything
upon initiation i got huge purple stomach bruises but cant say i recall much about bruises
i hate to have old yellow and brown bruises and
look like an old ripe banana anyway
but its a thot....


Greetings. (Incidently, your profile was not found when I clicked on your name.)

Pan-stick??

I hadn't heard of that. The 'Net sez: "Creamy but not oily, this foundation formula provides excellent coverage. Apply directly on a wet sponge then blend into the skin. For heavier coverage, use directly on the skin and buff with a sponge.Dany's Tip: "Pan Stick is also great as an eye concealer or applied directly on the face to hide brown spots, redness, and blotches."

Perhaps that works for some, when you'd rather conceal your bruises, for whatever reason?

A current concern is a female who experiences bruising on her upper arms, from being grabbed roughly there and held. Strikes me as an odd place to get bruising that last several days but sensitive skin seems to react that way.

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RE: Bruises and bruise-free play - 1/7/2006 5:18:23 AM   
MasterLark


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ORIGINAL: alandraofMists


quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterLark

1-- Bruises -- How do you feel about causing / getting bruises as part of play? Are there safety issues to be mindful of? (Bruises here are NOT injuries, broken bones or more serious harm.)



i very much enjoy getting bruises and marks on my body. I look at the bruises after play and i get a deep feeling of warmth and contentment. They are a visual reminder of the play and flow of energy between my Lord and I.

The most significant marks that i have are the cuttings from my Lord. They are significant not only for the marking of my body as His, but also because the feel of the knife dragging on my skin is the sensation that i find the hardest to handle. A lot of people who have watched me get a cutting can attest that my screams, cries and sobs were very extreme reactions. It is because of that trouble with dealing with the sensation that these marks have more significance.

Safety issues are different then health issues in my opinion. For safety issues one has to watch where and the extent of heavy bruising on the body that might show to people in our daily life. In a lot of countries, states or provinces it is the police that decide if abuse charges will be laid and not the person who receives the bruises.

For health issues one has to make sure the bottom/sub/slave is not on medicine for thinning of their blood as this can increase the size of the bruise or medicine for clotting of the blood as this can increase the chance of a clot forming in the bruise then moving in to the blood stream.

Knight's alandra



Thanks for the distinction between safety and health issues. Are there other medications people are on, other than blood-thinners, that make one more prone to bruising (or less prone, for that matter)?

From what most have said (or not said) rope does not seem to cause much bruising; rope burns seem to disappear.

The joy with "Master's marks" sound like love marks for most.

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RE: Bruises and bruise-free play - 1/7/2006 6:12:43 AM   
SelkiePet1


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Status: offline 		hmm, interesting thread ... not something I had really thought about.

I guess from my perspecive, marking and brusing for the sake simply of marking and bruisng smacks of high school (to me - if that turns your crank, go for it!) - I remember a boyfriend I had at 15 used to suck my neck like a vampire ... and I loved showing of these humungous (incredibly ugly, now that I think of it LOL) hickies.

First, agree completely about comments about health aspects - done lots of reading about this and things like punching and bruising the breasts for example, can cause health issues - but IF the dom is experienced, then hopefully issues won't arise like this.

Second, my other concern would revolve around who would see them - certaintly, if I had a girlfriend who I didn't know was into BDSM and saw her covered in marks and bruises I would be thinking major abuse!

As far as "branding" well there are I think, better ways (I have my D.'s initial tatooted on my butt LOL).

Having said all that, if the health issues are paramount and both are enjoying, where's the harm?

having pale, sensitive irish skin I do mark - but my D. is particular and seldom leaves marks - when he does I just shrug them off!

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RE: Bruises and bruise-free play - 1/7/2006 8:18:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: 1-- Bruises -- How do you feel about causing / getting bruises as part of play? Are there safety issues to be mindful of? (Bruises here are NOT injuries, broken bones or more serious harm.)

i love getting bruises, unfortunately, i don't mark easily. i love to watch them change colors as they heal :O)

i trust the ladies i play with to be safe, so i don't generally worry about that.

quote:

ORIGINAL: 2--Bruise-free play -- Is there a way to play vigorously (roughly) (however you define those words) and not cause any bruises? To be wholly aroused, bound etc and not bruised.


Yea, lol, play with me...no seriously, sometimes i do, sometimes i don't. i am not sure why. A very nice lady was just messing around hitting my tits with some glow sticks and they left very nice marks for almost a week. i've been flogged several times and my back has been as mark free as when i started, barely 1/2 hour after i played, then i have been flogged and the bruised stood out for days. i guess my body changes. i have heard people offering suggestions to stop bruising, but have never had a need to pursue it. Hopefully after tonight, i will have some new examples to think about <weg>

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RE: Bruises and bruise-free play - 1/7/2006 8:29:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		i enjoy the marks left behind but they are not where vanilla land can see them,those would cause me concerns due to job,school,etc....however, what play activities may mark some, may not mark others...i too have sensitive skin.........so any kind of roughhousing and light play marks me......i did have a mindset change form the first occurance

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RE: Bruises and bruise-free play - 1/8/2006 11:33:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: fyreredsub

i enjoy the marks left behind <snip>..i too have sensitive skin.........so any kind of roughhousing and light play marks me......i did have a mindset change form the first occurance


Hmmmmm...What would be your best guess as to how your mindset changed about getting bruises/marks? Especially since you do have sensitive skin.

Someone mentioned pan-stick. And I have heard Rawleighs salve is good for bruises. Any experience using either?

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RE: Bruises and bruise-free play - 1/8/2006 3:19:14 PM   
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1-- Bruises -- How do you feel about causing / getting bruises as part of play? Are there safety issues to be mindful of? (Bruises here are NOT injuries, broken bones or more serious harm.)

2--Bruise-free play -- Is there a way to play vigorously (roughly) (however you define those words) and not cause any bruises? To be wholly aroused, bound etc and not bruised.


1. bruises show signs of being loved

2. bruise free play -- easy .. use electricity .. say a cattle prod or a taser ... Master has both and they dont leave bruises but do they hurttttt like a mofo ... LOL...



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RE: Bruises and bruise-free play - 1/8/2006 6:51:00 PM   
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I personally love the bruises. They are almost like a badge of honor showing what I was able to take in order the please my Dom. Now 10 months ago I would of told you that you were nuts if you had told me I would feel this way.

aurora


Me too!!!
In fact, one of my limits when i started in this was... no serious bruising.
I seldom bruise anyway.. but with one Dom, i often do.. and i love to see them.
It makes me proud to see what i was able to take for his pleasure!

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