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Saying what Master Wants - 1/14/2009 9:50:15 AM   
littleone35


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Status: offline 		The other day Master and i were playing and he bit my nipples and i said that hurt Master.  He said it did?  I said yes and teasing i said here i will bite yours so you will know what it feels like.  Well he grabbed my nipples and said what did you say sweetheart?  I repeated myself he just squeezed harder and harder as i repeated myself and finally i said i wish you would not bite them so hard.  He realsed my nipples and said that is what it thought you said.  It is not the first time he has done this.  Master can make me say almost anything he want me to by doing this,  but he only does this whe i am beein a little bratty.  It is very effictive in stopping that behavior.

Does you Master,Dom/me Daddy do anyting in particular that will make you say whatever he wants?

Matt's littleone
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RE: Saying what Master Wants - 1/14/2009 9:58:18 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		Actually it seems effective for REPEATING the behavior because you both seem to enjoy you getting a little bratty so he can shove you down.

It's all in the dynamic- the LOOK, the EYES, the HANDS, the VOICE, and of course PAIN are all very effective.

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RE: Saying what Master Wants - 1/14/2009 10:15:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, although it's done in a wickedly, playful manner and not to instill a particular behavior or anything.

He will twist my nipples, pinch me on the underside of my upper arms or my inner thighs, and even pinch my pubic mound.

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RE: Saying what Master Wants - 1/14/2009 10:59:58 AM   
littleone35


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Status: offline 		Actually Lucky in this instance you are wrong.  He does not like me being bratty and i am usually not.   I also do not like pain.

Thanks for you answer though.

BR NaughtyAngel  You understand perfectly what i am saying.

Matt's littleone

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RE: Saying what Master Wants - 1/14/2009 11:47:12 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		OK when you said it wasn't the first time it had happened, I figured it was something you were ok in repeating.

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RE: Saying what Master Wants - 1/14/2009 12:32:14 PM   
RCdc


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Status: offline 		No.  Darcy wouldn't behave like that and he certainly would not accept such behaviour.
If he doesn't like you bratting, why do it?
 
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RE: Saying what Master Wants - 1/14/2009 12:41:22 PM   
BRNaughtyAngel


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Status: offline 		I think littleone is talking about playfulness, not outright brattiness. 

My Master hates brattiness, but thoroughly enjoys our playful, sometimes silly interactions that can include me sticking my tongue out at Him, then Him pinching me in return.  It's all done in good fun and works beautifully for us, but we both have fun, very playful personalities.

And as always, there's a time and place for everything.

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RE: Saying what Master Wants - 1/14/2009 1:01:02 PM   
RCdc


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Status: offline 		Possibly BRs.  However she did specifically say bratty.  I just read contradictions in the two posts.  LA pretty much summed it up that if your enjoying it and it is in fun and being playful then for some it can be effective due to the dynamic.  The op dismissed it because it's bratting and yet, that is how she decribed it herself.
 
Darcy does not put up with bratting at all.  Fun is fun, but he wouldn't use pain as a control device if we were having fun.  I just find the OP and the follow ups unclear - no biggy.
 
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RE: Saying what Master Wants - 1/14/2009 1:20:54 PM   
littleone35


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Status: offline 		Maybe bratty was the wrong word i was being playful and master knew that.  He was lpaying around he was not as the dark said contolling me.  Anywway thatns for your responses even if i don't understand all of them.

BR's angel again you hit the nail right on the head.

Matt's littleone

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RE: Saying what Master Wants - 1/14/2009 1:28:21 PM   
tsatske


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Status: offline 		I am extremely submissive, and tend towards obeidence in general. Anyone who knew me before Master, saw me with any former Master, would attest to that.
Now, while no one would doubt that Master is in control - He likes playfullness. What he calls 'spiritedness', or 'frogginess'.

Do we play little games where I *pretend* to resisit and He slaps me back into my place? Oh, sure. All in great fun. Never did anything like that with any former Master, but Master is pretty secure about His place in our dynamic.

Is He going to win these little battles? You betcha. Wouldn't be much fun for either of us if he didn't.

What is it, though, that would get the behavoir to STOP, instantly, everytime?

Well, if He were to say something like, 'Enough of that, Slut. Behave yourself. I'm not in the mood for lip right now.' It would stop, and instantly.

I suspect a lot of others might be trying to say something pretty simular.

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RE: Saying what Master Wants - 1/14/2009 1:33:21 PM   
CatdeMedici


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Status: offline 		Its called a gag-
 
stops when I have heard what I don't want and punishes for what I do not hear.

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RE: Saying what Master Wants - 1/14/2009 3:00:21 PM   
VeryNastyDom


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Status: offline 		Grasping nipples firmly and tugging upwards until the slave is on her toes is a very good time to reinforce what the correct answer is. However, I never let it go for more than about five attempts before giving her the correct answer.  She rarely forgets.

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RE: Saying what Master Wants - 1/14/2009 3:35:33 PM   
CaringandReal


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BRNaughtyAngel

I think littleone is talking about playfulness, not outright brattiness. 



Agreed.  It's something I might say if I was feeling silly and exhuberent. I wouldn't really mean it--"said in jest" is the key phrase, and in person it's always easy to discern and distinguish high spirits from brattiness. Over the computer, it is harder...well, until the dominant comes to understand your emoticon code. ;)  Different dominants have different levels of "playful tolerance," and the way her master is showing her what level he likes in her is a nice and controlling way of teaching her his personal tolerance level.

Some slaves or subs may have been formerly owned by someone with a very high tolerance for these behaviors. A sub with that sort of experience is not going to know offhand with a new dominant how he feels about them. She may not even realize that she is acting "bratty" or "uppity" because it was par for the course in her old relationship.  I think a good dominant who isn't too insecure doesn't automatically assume brattiness from such behavior, instead, they try to learn what the sub's actual motivations are and then respond accordingly.  That is what littleone's master seems to be doing--and quite well.

If a dominant just blindly and ignorantly assumes a sub acting that way is a "brat" and treated her as if she had a strong desire to disobey or act out when she actually has very strong "good girl" motivations, besides the hurt and confusion that might cause, there is also quite a strong possibility that the submissive might begin to regard him as a fool, don't you think?

< Message edited by CaringandReal -- 1/14/2009 3:36:17 PM >

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RE: Saying what Master Wants - 1/14/2009 3:40:27 PM   
BRNaughtyAngel


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Status: offline 		An example of some of our playfulness.......

Him:  "Do you love me?"

Me:  looking sheepish "Wellllllll maybe just a little."

Him: grabbing whatever He wishes and twisting  "I'm sorry, I didn't hear you."

Me:  squirming in pain and having a hard time speaking
 
Him:  "Well?"

Me: ow ow ow ow ow through clinched teeth "Yes Sir, I love you with all my heart!"

Him:  "That's what I thought you said." releasing the pinched whatever
 

It works for us. 

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RE: Saying what Master Wants - 1/14/2009 4:08:40 PM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		Sounds like the op accesses a much younger inner child than I do.

For me in such a case, he knows damn well I wouldn't dare go through with it. So his response is a raised eyebrow and to ask me if I really want to go there. At which point I say I would like to but won't. But my inner little girl is mid/late teens and that makes a difference.
 

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RE: Saying what Master Wants - 1/14/2009 4:32:01 PM   
tsatske


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Status: offline 		well, DesFIP,
My inner child is playful and naughty, but we don't do pain with her, at all. The one who does the frogginess is more likely to be ME, the painslut. I mean, really...
Your example:
*raises eyebrow* 'You sure you wanna go there, slut!'
Me: 'Hmmm... how much is it gonna hurt?'
Him: "A Lot. A whole lot. MOre than you want it to.'
Me: 'OH, YES! Let's go THERE!!!!!"

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RE: Saying what Master Wants - 1/14/2009 4:50:23 PM   
Carmeldelight


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Status: offline 		No, my dom knows better to try to make me say what ever he wants To me that is a hooks mentality. Pimps use that technique on the hooks, to boost their egos.

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RE: Saying what Master Wants - 1/14/2009 5:33:37 PM   
RainydayNE


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Status: offline 		those kinds of things are intersting
like if i say one of the things i'm not supposed to say, i feel horrible for breaking the rule, but the "sensation" whatever it is is interesting in a nice way
though, even though i'm a masochist, it's not like it doesn't get my attention the way it's supposed to, i don't intentionally do things to get certain responses

there was one thing he did that involved spanking and certain mandated responses that was insanely awesome
certain things are so much easier to do when you're told to do them =p or whatever
dunno what i'm tryin gto say

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RE: Saying what Master Wants - 1/14/2009 8:13:25 PM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		Rainy, oh yes. Mandated responses are much easier in certain headspace. If he's doing incredible things to me, then the last thing I can do while being immersed in the feelings is talk logically. Much better if he tells me a phrase and I repeat it. Then the next time I already know what to say.

We don't do this that much though since usually I'm gagged.

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RE: Saying what Master Wants - 1/14/2009 8:22:34 PM   
YourhandMyAss


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Status: offline 		Nope, Our dynamic isn;t that strict he allows my bratty playful behavior and quite enjoys it..

I wouldn't be with someone who wouldn't let me be the playful and sometimes bratty self I am.

He will however threaten to tickle my feet or poke my belly button to get me to give up where I hid the remote if I've hidden it, since my desire to be silly will war with the desire not to be tickled or belly button poked and the desire not to be tickled or belly button poked wins out.
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ORIGINAL: littleone35

The other day Master and i were playing and he bit my nipples and i said that hurt Master.  He said it did?  I said yes and teasing i said here i will bite yours so you will know what it feels like.  Well he grabbed my nipples and said what did you say sweetheart?  I repeated myself he just squeezed harder and harder as i repeated myself and finally i said i wish you would not bite them so hard.  He realsed my nipples and said that is what it thought you said.  It is not the first time he has done this.  Master can make me say almost anything he want me to by doing this,  but he only does this whe i am beein a little bratty.  It is very effictive in stopping that behavior.

Does you Master,Dom/me Daddy do anyting in particular that will make you say whatever he wants?

Matt's littleone

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