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sudja -> RE: Dom de Domme (1/7/2006 9:30:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: peppermint379 quote: PS this will also answer a question for me: can a new member of CollarMe with only 3 posts under Her belt, start a new topic? It seems that you have started a new topic. <smiles> As to what mental training is....well, i haven't the foggiest idea. However, what do i know anyway? The very word "training" makes me cringe. Training brings mental pictures of dogs jumping through hoops to me. Okay....will admit that some say i'm not a sub at all cause i get ornery at times. I prefer to learn rather than be trained. To be truthful, a program of "mental training" brings to mind brainwashing. (And i know...it might be considered cutting hairs to differentiate the words) I don't think it's cutting hairs. I have to learn what my Mistress likes, wants, needs, and it's a continuing process, but She's not training me, She's actively sharing information for me to use for Her pleasure. There is a difference. sudja

theRose4U -> RE: Dom de Domme (1/7/2006 9:35:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Petruchio I posted a comment elsewhere, that I noticed women seem to me (as a male dom), different, at least the ones I've met: More communicative, nurturing, especially mothering. Let's face it, a male dom just can't be a good mother. (Although some have been called bad mothers.) I would expect you'd incorporate this into your training, but for your subject and yourself. I don't know that it's a motherly aspect that makes it different as much as being willing to watch planted seeds develop verses the approach of "welcome to the jungle I'm you're tour guide". My boy is rather new and well...spoiled so training him is a challenge. A strong handed approach does not work well with getting him to not only see the consequences of his actions but the bigger picture of how his behavior impacts others. Every day I enjoy watching how a piece of guidence that I give him on a situation grows into confidence, appropriate handling of a situation and satisfaction at being able to handle a challenge. The next time that a similar issue comes up he handles himself with confidence and comes to me with gratitude for the seed that is now a large flower of knowledge. It would probably be easier to say do a,b & c but then I am solving his problem for him and not teaching him to problem solve on his own. I think that the way that men and women approach issues are fundimentally different and while I don't believe that being female or nurturing make me better at problem solving, I think that it achieves a slightly different result. Men get the short term for a use solution b, women teach why and how to use that same solution in other applications. It's not better just different. But just .02 cause I can [8D] why would a Dom not want to learn how to speak female? It seems like it would make it easier and faster to communicate with a sub if you're speaking the same language :) :)

Wolfie648 -> RE: Dom de Domme (1/8/2006 1:55:34 AM)
quote: for the complaint above that no one "talks about mental training as a tangible thing," well given the meaning of the word tangible, isn't that just ruled out by definition? If I train my sub/slave to have an orgasm on command is that not mental training? Is it not tangible? Is it mental (in her head) or not? If I stick my finger in her cunt to feel the contractions, is it not true? (for the record these would be vaginal orgasms not clitoral). Define mental by your good dictionaries and we may have a different conversation. Mental training is alive and well. D (owner of j)

Petruchio -> RE: Dom de Domme (1/8/2006 4:30:40 PM)
quote: But just .02 Let me help you with your change, here's my 2¢. (grin) Copy and paste as needed.

theRose4U -> RE: Dom de Domme (1/8/2006 7:43:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Petruchio quote: But just .02 Let me help you with your change, here's my 2¢. (grin) Copy and paste as needed. HE he welcome to the jungle babe [:D]

Smythe -> RE: Dom de Domme (1/8/2006 8:48:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Wolfie648 quote: for the complaint above that no one "talks about mental training as a tangible thing," well given the meaning of the word tangible, isn't that just ruled out by definition? If I train my sub/slave to have an orgasm on command is that not mental training? Is it not tangible? Is it mental (in her head) or not? If I stick my finger in her cunt to feel the contractions, is it not true? (for the record these would be vaginal orgasms not clitoral). Define mental by your good dictionaries and we may have a different conversation. Mental training is alive and well. D (owner of j) Wolfie, If you can train your sub or slave to have an orgasm solely by voice command that definitely qualifies as mental training in my book! My questions then are: did you do it, and if so, how was it accomplished? Smythe

sissymaidlola -> RE: Mental Bondage (1/19/2006 2:02:06 AM)
quote: I was considering your question when I ran across the following collarme BDSM interest (BDSM 2) entitled "Mental Bondage." Curiously, I must admit, I'm not sure what it is. Hey there, cloudboy, lately sissy has spent a lot of time thinking about starting an eBay business selling mental bondage products, and since you just brought up this subject, sissy would really like to know what you think? The type of thing sissy is envisioning here would be something along the lines of the following: mental collars and cuffs - constraints for the fashion conscious; all the control without any of the nasty protuberances! mental corsets - perfectly sculptured torsos, but without all of those pesky ties! mental chains - feel the cold, hard confinement and struggle against the restraint, while all the time appreciating a totally silent experience! That kind of stuff ... It strikes sissy that the profit margin could be quite considerable on such products since, after all, the real bondage is done in the sub's head, therefore no real physical garment or device is actually needed. [:)] Basically, sissy would just be shipping nicely packaged boxes and parcels that contained nothing other than product care and usage instructions plus a glossy product description pamphlet (you know, the usual puff ... "This sturdy mental locking collar is made of invisible studded titanium steel and soft black textured Italian leather ..." and so on). So wadya think, cloudboy? Wanna buy some preferred shares in sissy's Intangible Stocks and Bondage company? sissy Expects the IPO later this year is going to be really hot .... [;)] sissy maid lola [image]local://upfiles/21203/7550AAD373274EA8911F0BC3852D002C.jpg[/image]

sissymaidlola -> RE: Dom de Domme (1/19/2006 2:14:13 AM)
quote: Hmmm, you seem like an interesting person. Hmmm, You seem like a nice Domme, Ma'am ... Dom de domme de domme Dooo de doooo de doooo Dipidy doooo dipidy doooo Dom de domme de domme Ooops, didn't mean to be so blithe, Smythe! Respectfrilly Yours, sissy maid lola [image]local://upfiles/21203/7550AAD373274EA8911F0BC3852D002C.jpg[/image]

sissymaidlola -> RE: Stealth Dommer (1/19/2006 3:45:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44 quote: You know, when you do this, I tend to scroll past thinking that you forgot the response or that it is somewhere else. Took me a minute to realize that your response is actually in the quote. Sneeky, very sneeky. Very twixy of you. [;)] Ah, yes, Mr Discipline, old Smythe is a very, very shrewd Domina indeed ... this way NO ONE can EVER misquote Her because Her words are always spoken by other posters ... [:D] You see, with Smythe's proprietary posting technique (patent pending) She gets to communicate all of Her ideas to us but has absolutely none of the responsibility of owning or defending any of Her words. It's a new totally flame-proof method of message board posting called subliminal Domming. So is anyone else completely under Smythe's subliminal power like sissy is ? Are YOU a sub sub too ???? sissy maid lola [image]local://upfiles/21203/7550AAD373274EA8911F0BC3852D002C.jpg[/image]

sissymaidlola -> RE: Training versus Teaching (1/19/2006 4:14:34 AM)
quote: AMong many other things they are trained to swim good and sneak around quietly ... FYI, Noah, it's "swim well" not "swim good"! You see, that's what happens when you are merely trained how to mimic the use of English in EngLang 101 boot camp like You were, Noah, instead of being taught how to think and use English intelligently like sissy has been. sissy Thinks that example perfectly illustrates the distinction you are trying to make in your post. Thanks for sharing that with us. [:D] Respectfrilly Yours, sissy maid lola [image]local://upfiles/21203/7550AAD373274EA8911F0BC3852D002C.jpg[/image]

IronBear -> RE: Training versus Teaching (1/19/2006 6:15:31 AM)
Now, I am the first to agree that I have no idea of what is required in the training of a submissive, as I don’t deal with submissives other than socially. However I do have some experience and knowledge of slaves, Gorean slaves (kajirae) in particular. Slaves require and expect training so they may be pleasing to their owner and other Frees (Gorean). The training I undertake initially involves a variety of postures and serves (beverages and foods) under different circumstances. Following this, the training takes a more mundane route as to how I wish a whole range of things done about my home. The mental aspect of such training and indeed all training with me involves the required mindset so that each task may be completed correctly and with grace and efficiency. I would say that one for the initial pieces of training for any slave and even submissive is to read their Dominant’s moods and understand the correct responses in each case. This is much like any close relationship. I will state that I do not expect any slave to be a virtual yes person or learn everything by rote. I expect them to understand what it is I require and why. I also expect them to bring to the table their personality, positive attributes and abilities as well as their negative ones. This way their energies can be channeled into their slavery and those attitudes or attributes which are negative can be realigned and mostly channeled to positive ends.

Smythe -> RE: Stealth Dommer (1/19/2006 7:16:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sissymaidlola So is anyone else completely under Smythe's subliminal power like sissy is ? Are YOU a sub sub too ???? sissy maid lola [image]local://upfiles/21203/7550AAD373274EA8911F0BC3852D002C.jpg[/image] How you DO go on, Miss Lola. I have always relied on the kindness of strangers. ----Blanche, Blanche Dubois

sissymaidlola -> RE: Stellar Response (1/19/2006 7:51:34 PM)
quote: I have always relied on the kindness of strangers. Ah, Ms Smythe, good evening, Ma'am. It appears You still don't seem to have quite mastered the quotation feature, m'Lady <curtsey> .... there's really no need to quote sissy's frillies, Ma'am, just his text will suffice! [:D] But other than that, Your reply was absolutely stellar .... STEL--LAR Respectfrilly Yours, sissy maid lola [image]local://upfiles/21203/7550AAD373274EA8911F0BC3852D002C.jpg[/image]

Smythe -> RE: Stellar Response (1/19/2006 9:52:17 PM)
That's an interesting Brand-o humor, lola. Smythe

sissymaidlola -> RE: Brand-o humor (1/29/2006 2:08:23 AM)
quote: That's an interesting Brand-o humor, lola. Why thank You, Ms Smythe. sissy Had it specially imported, Ma'am. [;)] sissy maid lola [image]local://upfiles/21203/7550AAD373274EA8911F0BC3852D002C.jpg[/image] *To give real service you must add something which cannot be bought or measured with money, and that is sincerity and integrity.* - Douglas Adams

MistressDREAD -> RE: Dom de Domme (1/29/2006 4:08:26 PM)
quote: might have missed that lesson in Mistress school! Smythe Yep You did. And Ill gander more then a lesson You missed!! [;)] Busy skippin with the local subbies were Ya ?? LOL

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