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RE: Submissive friends? - 1/10/2006 3:25:17 PM   
nonuts4thshoney


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ORIGINAL: lilyophelia

You know, i have to say that these forums have a wonderful concentration of very amazing people. With that said, i have a question for other submissives and slaves:

Do you often feel the need to reach out to other submissives for a different kind of companionship than what you might have with a Dominant? i don't mean for play, or sex (although those sorts of things could be involved), but i mean more for having an intimate (close, not sexual) friendship and bond with someone else who shares a similar role to you?

i'm very in love with my Miss, and i have absolutely no complaints about O/our relationship, but i sometimes experience a sort of sub frenzy, but for other submissives. i have a craving to feel like i'm not alone in serving, if that makes any sense. i think it has something to do with wanting some sort of peer support, and maybe even wanting a friend who is understanding and supportive of my life choices...i don't know.

Once upon a time i asked my Miss if we could have another girl in our relationship, just because i felt like that bond to someone else would be really meaningful and pretty; now, i wonder if those sorts of explorations are really for the best, because W/we both seem to be extremely satisfied.

Do any of you, taken or untaken submissives/slaves, ever have similar feelings? What do you do when you have those cravings, to be close and to share with others?

i did find a single, active, online support group called Latches that seems interesting...so that can be my own contribution to the thread

Lots of warmth to those who need it,
faeylin, aka lily


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i was mostly asking those who felt a little lonely sometimes about what they do when they find that they lack someone to talk to about submissive things.




i really really wish i had a close submissive friend that was local and could hang out and talk about sub/slave things. i do feel lonely sometimes. Not relationship [with Master] lonely, but friendship lonely. i notice because i dont have a special bond with someone i tend to get a little sad at times . i'd like to have that sub-best-friend. It would be so nice to be able to chat over some coffee and talk about how our day was. Not that i can't do that with Master, but it's different. Ya know, like she/he says: "So anything new happen today?" i say: "omg i sooooo got into trouble today and got sent to the rice! Damn kneeling on rice. Why do they have to choose the fricken rice?" she/he says: " i dunno, it must be a Dom thing"


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RE: Submissive friends? - 1/10/2006 4:08:00 PM   
classykindasassy


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My answer here would be to get active in lifestyle groups in your area. I don't know what big city you are near, but if you can, go for it.

This is one thing I did not have when trying to learn about and understand what it is to be a sub. In Houston some communities have special interest groups for subs, for doms, for switches and all the rest of the major facets of play.

Now that i am getting active in the social part of the scene i love it.

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RE: Submissive friends? - 1/10/2006 4:47:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: trueshadow
Since subs share a particular world view

We do?

I disagree with a lot of subs on a lot of world views, and they from me, and they from others. We see debates and differences in perspective constantly here. I have more in common with most of the members of my Firefly group than I do with most people in kink.


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RE: Submissive friends? - 1/10/2006 10:36:53 PM   
BalletBob


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Yes. I feel like I can discuss things with other subs that I can't with a Mistress. I have about 5 female subs that I try and chat with, when we are online, and we can share all kinds of informations and support. Since I don't have a Mistress yet too, it helps me cope with the absence, and I get cheered, but what their Mistress/Master is puting them though.

I am always looking for more friends, if you ever want to chat on Yahoo, or just through e-mail.

Sincerly, BalletBob

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RE: Submissive friends? - 1/11/2006 2:17:13 PM   
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I have one sub friend that I wouldn't give up for the world. When things go wrong, she is the one I talk to. I mean, I can't pore my heart out about some BDSM faux pau I've committed to my vanilla friends. And even though we are different types of subs--she is a masochist and I'm not, she is in a full-blown Dom/slave relationship and I'm not, etc...--I think we both find it a relief to have another to whom we can say anything without the fear of shocking or offending. I highly recommend at least one sub friend.

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RE: Submissive friends? - 1/11/2006 6:45:18 PM   
lilyophelia


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quote:

ORIGINAL: fastlane
Oh Lilly...you know you world is puuuurrrrrrfect there in Tampa. You have your local Dungeon, Your Miss and your new job, where you get to talk, talk, talk....LOL
Now, as for us Doms......I need a big Dom Hug......we are the sensitive ones....shhhhh, that's a Dom secret!


Kevin, you're so silly. If you ever need a big hug, then i'm right there for you. But, in case you haven't heard, i'm a kept woman now, and that means i don't get to be social anymore...and i'm being dragged off to the wilds of Washington state, where we won't even have telephone service, so...i'm really happy, but companionship in the form of good friends can still be hard to find, and very neccessary for some people. Anyway, hugs to you, cuteness.

-lily

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RE: Submissive friends? - 1/11/2006 7:37:57 PM   
lilyophelia


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Please excuse my rambles. W/we're in the middle of getting ready to move, and there's so much i wanted to comment on. Thanks for commenting, and thanks for running with the topic...

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ORIGINAL: Lucky Albatross

Also, make friendships with people for who they are, not how they orient themselves. It is nice to have people who share your life experiences, but it's better to have people who share an interest in making eachothers lives better.


Silly person, i have several friends who are wonderful, but they don't really want to go into great detail with me about submissive topics. There's just something different about bonding with someone who also heavily lives within the lifestyle, and who understands some of the feelings you might have. How many times have you had people who don't understand the need to subjugate yourself to another? i've lost good friends over it...and most people who aren't very interested in BDSM tend to have, at best, a fleeting acceptance of a D/s relationship.
i would love to have a friend that i could go to for support when i get sad because i did something to offend my Miss, for example. Someone that you can share something with, and find understanding, sympathy, support and comfort from. While i completely agree that we're not all just "submissives" or just into D/s or BDSM, when i want to dwell on those topics, it generally helps to have close friends who are likewise interested in dwelling on those topics. :P


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ORIGINAL: newflowers

it is relaxing being her friend and i can be completely open with her in a way that i am not with some of my other friends and aquaintances.


Like, this is what i mean. Maybe for some people, they just don't need that sort of bonding, but for others, i imagine it helps to have friends who can understand your life a bit.

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

As for finding friends who are specifically submissive or lifestyle.....the boards here are a good way of meeting acquaintances who you can bounce ideas back and forth with, but for more meaningful friendships I would suggest, as others have, to go out to your local groups, munches, events.....and meet people. It starts out slowly...you meet one person....then another....then you meet people through those people....and before you know it your address book will be overflowing....lol. Have fun!!!


i completely understand what you're saying. Where W/we live now, W/we have a local dungeon, and it's really nice. But, to be honest, i never really bonded with anyone there. W/we didn't go often enough (because it was a little hard for U/us to find a place for O/our daughter on most nights), and that was probably a part of it. i think real life friends are definitely a good idea, and i'm thankful for the advice. i think we'll make trips out from the country to more social events in Washington when we get there. Thank you for the idea.

quote:

ORIGINAL:KatyLied

Lillyophelia- you can always try by sending a few pm's to some subs you may want to talk to and see where it goes.


Actually, i got a few responses already! And i think i'm well on my way to joining that LATCHES group, which sounds really amazing in afterthought. Thank you, for your encouragement! You seem really sweet, and i liked your comments on catty women.

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ORIGINAL:perfection20005

I fell that way sometimes. I can't get out much due to my disability, so I understand what you are talking about. I am in the process of joining Latches, it does seem to be a interesting group and hopefully active.


Me too, so...maybe we'll end up joining some other list just so that we can talk to each other! i'm sure you're worth the effort. See you on the list, i hope.

Also, to Notanaddict, i think your advice completely rocks. i mean, it's exactly like that, and i couldn't find any part of your post that i would want to cut, and it was too long to repost. The only trouble is finding those friends. But you're completely right when you talk about the need for "like-minded friends."


quote:

ORIGINAL:IrishMist

I don't go out of my way to only make friends with those who are submissive/slave. I make friends based on who they are, not how they live.


You see, i think that this is a case of misreading the whole idea of the post. Of course you shouldn't define your life by one thing, and limit everything else to fit that preconcieved idea of what your life is supposed to revolve around. With that said, beyond having great, amazing friends who just don't get D/s relationships, and yet who are awesome in every other way, it's very nice to fantasize about having D/s-friendly friends too sometimes. You know, if my Miss punishes me for something, i'd like to be able to have a friend to go to that i can discuss something like that with. The average individual would just roll their eyes at you and consider you pretty kinky...but i completely agree, not all of your friends should be selected based solely on one (or even any) of your interests. Some people are just amazing souls, and even if you can't speak the same language as them, you can still warm each other's lives...

quote:

ORIGINAL:nonuts4thshoney

i really really wish i had a close submissive friend that was local and could hang out and talk about sub/slave things. i do feel lonely sometimes. Not relationship [with Master] lonely, but friendship lonely. i notice because i dont have a special bond with someone i tend to get a little sad at times . i'd like to have that sub-best-friend. It would be so nice to be able to chat over some coffee and talk about how our day was. Not that i can't do that with Master, but it's different. Ya know, like she/he says: "So anything new happen today?" i say: "omg i sooooo got into trouble today and got sent to the rice! Damn kneeling on rice. Why do they have to choose the fricken rice?" she/he says: " i dunno, it must be a Dom thing"


If i ever find property for sale nearby, do you think you could beg and plead (and do whatever else is neccessary!) to convince your Master to let you be my neighbor? You like...restated everything i felt in that paragraph. i guess best friends aren't easy to find, and they're rare, but wouldn't that be so awesome, to have that kind of bond with someone else who can understand you so deeply, and that can still be a part of your life. Maybe i'll get lucky and W/we're secretly moving into a leather retreat or something. ^^




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RE: Submissive friends? - 1/12/2006 6:22:09 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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quote:

ORIGINAL: lilyophelia
How many times have you had people who don't understand the need to subjugate yourself to another?

It's never happened with my friends. This is partly because I have few intimate friends, and partly because I do not become friends with someone who is not fully aware of who I am. How can I call someone my "true" friend if they cannot say they know all of who I am?

quote:

While i completely agree that we're not all just "submissives" or just into D/s or BDSM, when i want to dwell on those topics, it generally helps to have close friends who are likewise interested in dwelling on those topics.

And you should have those people in your life and I hope you can find them. For me, all of my friends are there to support. Some have strengths in some areas and some in others.


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