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RE: For what to get his Mistress off. - 1/26/2009 11:53:53 AM   
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Good post ShaktiSama... I agree... and have opportunity to agree to that, think it and such... far too often! lol

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RE: For what to get his Mistress off. - 1/26/2009 12:17:46 PM   
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I was looking for a submissive lover.
It was made perfectly clear on my profile.
Now I'm looking for friends.
To be a true friend you have to understand me which means understanding my interest in BDSM. I would never enter into a BDSM sexual relationship if I was unsure that
1 We were attracted to one another.
2 He would always put my needs before his own.
3 He enjoyed my dominant nature.
4 He was absolutley able to do as he was told by me and noone else.
5 We were both sure that it was going to be a long term relationship.
6 We were able to be absolutely honest with one another.
7 We wanted to learn  how to communicate well.
My advice is to forget about your preconcieved notions of women and BDSM and search for what you need. If you don't have a clue about your own needs then how can you help your dominant to understand them?
I deal in needs. My own and my potential subs.
Our wants may very well be met in time but that isn't the point of the relationship.
Meeting one another's needs is.

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RE: For what to get his Mistress off. - 1/26/2009 1:57:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

quote:

ORIGINAL: TwistedAffection

When a Mistress ask a submissive/switch, what they can do for them. And that person tells them what ever it takes to get them off, before they do because that it return will allow them to know their Mistress was satisfied and give them satisfaction. Isn't this how it's supposed to be? Is this what a Mistress wants to hear?


I realize this is probably going to come across as somewhat brutal, but reading yet another one of these questions, I suddenly had a revelation about why women ask the question "what can you do for me" in such vague terms. Because thinking back to the Bad Old Days when I was actually chatting with prospective subs by email, on one or two occasions, I have actually found myself asking someone this question without giving any specifics. It was always the email before I started ignoring him.

Whenever I would ask a man "What can you do for me?", it was always in a context of HIM HAVING ASKED ME FOR SOMETHING.

Do you like to use a strap-on, mistress? Will you spank me until I can't sit down? Will you use me as a human ashtray, mistress? Will you make me worship your boots? Will you blackmail me, dress me up like a sissy, put me in a diaper and call me "Doody Judy", blah blah blah me me me my fetishes my fetishes blah?

Yes, I realize that most men who hit a woman with the laundry list of their kinky desires, fantasies and fetishes do not think that they are presenting a woman with a List of Demands or an exhausting set of chores. But guess what, darlin'--no matter how dominant we are, no matter how much we like people with penises, the vast majority of women DON'T WANT TO FUCK YOU IF WE DON'T KNOW YOU.

Ever.

End of story.

So if you are sending a woman emails about what you want sexually, when she sends you an email back asking what you can do for her? It generally means that NOTHING you've said so far has done ANYTHING for her. The space between her thighs has not heated up a single degree. You are giving her no desire to "get off" whatsoever--you are not turning her on, or making her want to have sex with you or dominate you. If you were, she'd already be telling you want she wanted because she'd be excited about you as a man and a sex object.

As it stands, when she asks you "what can you do for me", she's giving you one last-ditch chance to prove that your head isn't completely up your own ass and that you aren't a completely worthless, self-obsessed bore. "I'll make you come too", "I'll make you come first", or any other sexual offer is probably not the way to go at that moment. I have no idea what might actually work to turn the situation around at that moment, but I think my recommended strategy from now on would be a hasty reply of "Wow, I got off on a tangent there talking about ME for a while, didn't I? You're right, I should probably get to you know better and think about what you want as well. I can see you have some interests listed in your profile--what about this (fill in her interest of choice) thing? I'm interested in that, although I don't know much about it..."

Etc.



Brava!

It's so simple, and so difficult. As witness the recent crop of messages tarnishing my inbox.
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RE: For what to get his Mistress off. - 1/26/2009 4:17:10 PM   
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Hm, what can I do for You... 

Lesse, I can hold this poor guy's mouth open while y'all jump down his throat


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RE: For what to get his Mistress off. - 1/26/2009 6:30:51 PM   
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Hey, I was being nice. I can be blunt, but I get my point across.

The OP is a welcome addition to the forums, and I hope he sticks around.   :o)

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RE: For what to get his Mistress off. - 1/26/2009 6:39:06 PM   
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Not to be rude, either, because I do agree that this is a good question and we all come as newbs (even I'm still a newb!) but in general, women are deluged with men who "know how to make a woman come" or whom can "get you off the best of anyone in your life" or "give you 8429301 and one orgasms in a row without even touching you" etc, etc, etc. We hear it all the time and so we are kind of desensitized to the whole "I can make you cum" issue.

I don't know much about corresponding with Misstress's, but I do know that they don't like to be treated as mere sexual objects, even if you are worshipping them.


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RE: For what to get his Mistress off. - 1/26/2009 6:48:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: OneMoreWaste

Hm, what can I do for You... 

Lesse, I can hold this poor guy's mouth open while y'all jump down his throat


How was it jumping down his throat?

It isn't always the new person's fault, but believe it or not, some of us do get tired of correcting the preconceived notions that people come with.  I realize the question is new to the person asking it, but they also have to realize we've heard it a thousand times before.


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RE: For what to get his Mistress off. - 1/27/2009 7:13:44 PM   
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Well after reading all the responses that were left, sorry I haven't been wicked active, I have been working alot, having alot of issues with properties around. Been doing alot of driving. I would like to thank everyone who contibuted.  I did learn quite abit, from everyones responses. I don't know about everyone hear, I mean seeing there was only one guy who responded. I would like to say not all guys are dumn and think only of themselves. This is the stereotype in which has been formed over time. I was raised in the south and brought up with respect. I think we should respect ourselves, because we only live once. I have known since I was 3 or 4 I was different. Drinking piss from a dear friend back then. Tried things that weren't normal at very young age. I didn't know anything back then. And now that I have gotten older and wiser, one day at a time. Learning my place and whatnot. My question was answered also, as I think communication is key. And I am new to the lifestyle as everyone has noticed, lol. I'm sorry, I will try to continue to ask questions, I love to learn and believe the mind is a powerful thing. And the way in which we present oursleves is how we a perceived. Although I am a guy, I don't want to fall under the typical dumbass. I'm on this site which should make it evident enough what I'm looking for as with everyone. If everyone aswered and created their profiles on truth, I think it would be so much easier, but this is my opinion, and you know what they say about opinion, there like assholes, everyone has one. I also believe one should be someone established in their everyday life to some sort of standard.

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RE: For what to get his Mistress off. - 1/27/2009 7:20:55 PM   
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Both parties should have something to offer. We are all human and all do have feelings, atleast I think so. I try to think about others before myself. I don't think ones self needs should come first either, I mean everything comes with a little time. We should try to find common interest and things in which may be indifferent, but be open to trying new things.

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