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Lockit -> RE: "I'm sincere" (1/26/2009 11:09:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: chezzy71

I wonder what would happen if someone said"i haven't been sincere a day in my life"!!Would anyone consider that to be a sincere statement??


I would laugh my ass off! lol  Either he was joking or was one bad, bad boy who was honest about his bad and maybe deflecting.  Either way... funny to my weird sense of humor.  Would I trust him?  No... but I would still laugh.



Vendaval -> RE: "I'm sincere" (1/26/2009 11:22:18 PM)

Yup, cut n paste form letters. 


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ORIGINAL: Lockit
Mostly cut and paste from what I have seen. lol



Vendaval -> RE: "I'm sincere" (1/26/2009 11:24:42 PM)

Good to see you posting again, littlesarbonn.  My impression of you is that you are a quality individual who be a great person to know in any capacity.


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ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn
I've come to the conclusion that those who want to "score" or whatever will do whatever they have to do, say whatever they have to say and pretend to be whatever they have to pretend to be. It used to bug me because that meant that I have to be that much more serious, sincere and believable in everything I do.



undergroundsea -> RE: "I'm sincere" (1/27/2009 12:15:13 AM)

With respect to scenarios where these words are said incorrectly, I expect in some cases it is a case of saying what a given person thinks must be said to achieve an objective. And I expect in some cases the man might say it thinking he is indeed sincere and any contradiction to this statement arises from (1) not seeing own insincerity or self-serving actions for sake of being focused too much on self, or (2) difference in expectations or perspectives.

Cheers,

Sea



iamyours247 -> RE: "I'm sincere" (1/27/2009 1:35:57 AM)

Despite what you might believe it is very difficult for most men to approach women, I know it was for me! The fear of rejection is very real. You see a pretty woman on the street or at the office. Yes, the guy might be thinking with the head between his legs but he is also thinking that she is too beautiful to go out with someone like me or she has just got to be in a relationship and there is no hope for me or she is a different race and would not date outside her race....all fears of rejection and all before they have even had a simple conversation. So the males that say they are sincere might be looking for a way past the potential rejection as an ice breaker to start a conversation perhaps leading to a deeper relationship.
Back in the early 70s when I was in college it took me almost 6 months to get up the nerve to talk to what I thought was the prettiest girl in school (beauty is in the eye of the beholder) and it finally took a surprise Spanish test to break the ice. We ended up spending the next 28 years together.

iamyours247



MoGa -> RE: "I'm sincere" (1/27/2009 1:57:29 AM)

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and we are all supposed to throw on our stilettos, grab the whip, trip the light fantastic across the floor and say "awwwww johnny".

 
lmao! Trip the light fantastic! I love it!



hopelesslyInvo -> RE: "I'm sincere" (1/27/2009 3:45:44 AM)

i've never said 'i'm sincere', but i often tell people "if you're not telling the truth, you will never be able to give people a sense of sincerity with your words, no matter how you deliver them".

sincerity is like truth, and truth isn't told, it's realized.



LadyLou -> RE: "I'm sincere" (1/27/2009 4:46:32 AM)

 
Fashion! It's this season's CollarMe 'must have'. It's the new 'I'm real' – being 'twue' is soooo 2008. 'I'm sincere' compliments everything, and flatters beautifully.



Seriously though, 'I'm sincere' really does go with everything; people are sincere in their intentions, whether their intention is to be deceptive or to be upfront in what they seek, they are sincere about getting it.



Someone typing about their sincerity means nothing to me, indeed, I would be rather intrigued as to why someone felt the need to focus on it, and be further intrigued by their definition of 'sincerity'. Anyone can give lip-service to anything, particularly on the internet; it's ones actions and consistent long term follow through on that lip-service that defies it from just being part of the mass of meaningless patter.



PeonForHer -> RE: "I'm sincere" (1/27/2009 4:50:58 AM)

One thing that's become clear to me in recent threads and posts is that men who write friendly opening mails to women, treating them as people etc. have difficulty getting their heads around the mental make-up of those men who don't.  I, for one, certainly have trouble, anyway.

Similarly, re your lines:

Guys...you credible ones there...why are your less than adequate counterparts doing this? Seriously...is there a formula on being able to predict this type thing? What advice would you lend to the guys who just want to get their jollies off and aren't "sincere" about a damned thing?
 
These are different types of people to me, so, even though I'm of the same gender,  I wouldn't have any more of a handle on their motives and intents than, say, a d- or s- type, hetero/gay, woman.  Maybe your own answer to the question would be more helpful, Boijen?





SthrnCom4t -> RE: "I'm sincere" (1/27/2009 5:23:16 AM)

Everyone has the ability to 'be sincere', they just don't choose to be. Of course, they will be when a situation which meets THEIR needs comes along, but YOU (general) don't necessarily qualify. I generally don't pay attention to the parts of profiles that 'list character attributes'. I mean, unless you (general) meet MY definition of such, what good is it if you think you are X? (other than the fact that comparing your definition to mine, I can figure out rather quickly just how delusional you might be). <grin>

Seriously, its important we use our own judgement to see if potential partners meet our definitions. That's the only way a good match can occur.

Now, assigning a partner to go do some research of definitions could be a great little task, and then making him show examples of how he fits X definitions does have some merit.



LunaVenus -> RE: "I'm sincere" (1/27/2009 5:46:12 AM)

The world is full of  inauthentic people who will say and do anything to get close to a beautiful woman....and not mean a word of it. So saying they are sincere  falls in the category of saying and doing anything and not meaning a word of it imo

So I believe NOTHING that comes out of anyone's mouth...I would give them TESTS, CHORES, WISH LISTS and ASSIGNMENTS to prove it by their actions!  You will be amazed how many "sincere" men weed themselves out at the simple request of some tangible proof.



Lockit -> RE: "I'm sincere" (1/27/2009 8:18:22 AM)

I don't see someone stating that they are sincere... honest... loyal... whatever as a bad thing.  It can be the truth and I don't believe that speaking the truth is a hidden trick of some sort.  However... when I hear someone saying they are sincere, most often it comes with putting down other's or highlighting themselves in a way that puts down other's.  I see this as a form of manipulation for the most part because they really point it out... as if we wouldn't know and need it pointed out.  Discribing yourself is not the issue... discribing others in the process... is.

We have many trigger words that red flag us and I would hate to add another to the list.  Sincere is a good word and in truth, has wonderful meanings.  I would hate to see anyone running from someone saying they were sincere without other words or indiction of a problem. 

When did having good qualities and being forthright in discribing yourself become bad?  When people manipulated their words to sound pretty or seem what someone wanted to hear and their words were a misrepresentation.  Saying you are honest, sincere or whatever isn't the bad thing and I would hate to have people afraid to honestly speak about themselves.  I think we have enough communication break downs already.  

When teaching myself to read... I wasn't the best at it and struggled with it.  My first steps were amazing and yet... I wasn't practiced at it and made some wrong steps.  With words I didn't know or understand... my grandmother an amazing teacher... told me to read the sentence around it and you could most often figure the word and meaning out.  I sometimes think that reading a person is quite like that.



gumshoe -> RE: "I'm sincere" (1/27/2009 9:51:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GreeneGoddess

Who would claim that they were NOT sincere?

Let your sincerity be shown in your actions, not in your words.


Absolutely.  Words can lie, whereas deeds cannot.



Phreddie -> RE: "I'm sincere" (1/27/2009 11:36:08 AM)

Sincerely, I have no idea why people would tell a lie when the truth would do - or tell a lie when the truth will be discovered anyway, and make them look like a gigantic jackass.

*shrug*

I can't speak for others of any gender, unless I am close enough to really know their soul.

Namaste',

Phred



MsDDom -> RE: "I'm sincere" (1/27/2009 12:33:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

Can you speculate why s-type men of a less than credible nature (not all of you) are saying these things?



...another form of begging...



Politesub53 -> RE: "I'm sincere" (1/27/2009 4:29:14 PM)

Its not just guys who claim to be sincere and aren`t. I dont understand why either sex claim this, maybe its what they truly believe.



PeonForHer -> RE: "I'm sincere" (1/27/2009 4:34:45 PM)

Absolutely.  Words can lie, whereas deeds cannot.

I'm not sure, Gumshoe.  How many bouquets of flowers have been given by men to women, ostensibly to show love - but actually because the men feel guilty about something?



Lockit -> RE: "I'm sincere" (1/27/2009 4:39:35 PM)

I got a thick gold necklace for a week's business/pleasure trip with someone who liked his laugh.  (smile)  If guilt is behind it... it will take more than flowers... because I want something that will not die that will remind me of how silly one can be to think that emotional pain or guilt is something they can buy redemption for... all while he sits and looks at divorce paper's and tell's his friends he has no idea what went wrong. (smile)



PeonForHer -> RE: "I'm sincere" (1/27/2009 5:01:46 PM)

It's somewhat irrelevant - but interesting - that the word "guilt" has the same root as the words "guilder" and "gilt" - "payment", basically.  The horrible thing is, if you feel guilty, you feel like "paying" in some way - but no form of payment will work for many kinds of transgressions, like you say. 

I couldn't use the word "sincere" in a romantic approach.  I'd imagine that I sound like a particularly dodgy used car salesman.  It suggests that the person using it holds sincerity up as one of those ideals "to be striven for, though never actually reached" - like courage in the face of fire, for instance.  For truly sincere people, it's not actually all that high an ideal!



hairslave -> RE: "I'm sincere" (1/27/2009 6:08:00 PM)


i Have to agree with littlesarbonn on this as well. If you post something honestly and then hope to be able to converse with others about those thoughts on the matter at hand, you do seem to be ignored and passed right over.

In what i have also seen in even vanilla relationships is, the guys who can come up with the most flattering line ( no matter how dishonest it is ) is the one who gets her attention.

Also W/we here on collarme have an advantage by being able to look back in the person in question’s past posts to see how they respond ( or ) react to discussions on the boards. Do anyone really take the time to look to see if that persons Character is an honest and, Sincere one? Is he Polite and, Patient or, does he come across as rude and self adsorbed? Ladies,… this is what in the end that really matters.
By taking the time and advantages of a safe road, using emails to each other and, taking the time to get to know the person in question,… You well be better able to weed out the none sincere men. They lack the Patients involved to take any time to get to really get to know You. Those who are insincere are to interested in just finding their next jolly,. Therefore don’t want to spend any time to get to know You. This alone would weed out a lot of phonies.
So Ladies Stay Safe! Sincerely hair slave



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