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RE: The art of sexual arousal ? - 1/26/2009 11:56:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou
Despite assertions in the OP, depictions of erect penises are not banned. We have standards on where and when such depictions can be shown.

Hi SBYF
Just to make a note that the OP is in the UK and here it is, not sure about in the US.

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RE: The art of sexual arousal ? - 1/27/2009 12:02:10 AM

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

It's sex. For me it's got nothing to do with decency or religion.
I don't have the desire to look at a person in the state of arousel unless it's Darcy, or porn.
I wouldn't want to see a statue of a woman with a swollen, gushing vagina either.

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*quickly unsends pic*

And agrees with the above statement

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RE: The art of sexual arousal ? - 1/27/2009 12:07:58 AM

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Hi SBYF
Just to make a note that the OP is in the UK and here it is, not sure about in the US.

the.dark.

Howdy Dark,

I understand that. I just assumed that it was acceptable to have art like that in certain venues over there, as it is here.

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RE: The art of sexual arousal ? - 1/27/2009 1:09:15 AM

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Why is it when one sees art in the normal public domain if that art features a male in a state of arousal, the art is either banned or heavily censored ?

I think the art world is pretty relaxed with things. IF you look at they guy that makes the corpses on which you can see the veins and arteries, he could have an exhibition everywere.
It is not sexual of course this example ( I hope not at lol) but it was mmm on the edge of what people accept.

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RE: The art of sexual arousal ? - 1/27/2009 3:49:09 AM

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Let me settle this for you women. Send me your naked pics. I will judge weather they are art or not.

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RE: The art of sexual arousal ? - 1/27/2009 5:12:08 AM

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It's those damned stiff porn laws, we should ram it back to the governments because we certainly can't lick it by being soft. Stand up, thrust ahead and tell your representatives we are tired of being bent over and prefer to stick it back their way.

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RE: The art of sexual arousal ? - 1/27/2009 6:09:35 AM

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It's those damned stiff porn laws, we should ram it back to the governments because we certainly can't lick it by being soft. Stand up, thrust ahead and tell your representatives we are tired of being bent over and prefer to stick it back their way.

Rock on!!

...although, I'm not tired of being bent over. LOL

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RE: The art of sexual arousal ? - 1/27/2009 6:17:12 AM

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People are squicked by the jiggly bits. I was reading an article online yesterday about KAte Winslet's thought of if there is a double standard in cinema about frontal nudity with females verses frontal nudity with men. She wants things she is in like The Reader to depict realism of a sexual encounter. In her scenes she is naked and the male does not show frontal nudity. Its just not fair. She chalked it up to Penis a phobia!

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RE: The art of sexual arousal ? - 1/27/2009 6:59:01 AM

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Look up Judeo-Christianity and guilt.

I'm not sure this is right -- surely the missionaries preached their guilt trips through central America as they converted the natives at the point of a sword, yet I found some great little pornographic statues in the Yucatan that had demons with huge hard-ons stuffing them into the gaping gashes of maidens in more positions than you'd find in the kama sutra. They make great Christmas gifts, btw.

Even if we dismiss this as mayan art, the fact that they are out in the open on display for sale means the christian prudes and morality police aren't so outraged they try to protect everyone else from such delightfully depraved images. I can only imagine the headlines if such statues appeared on the shelves of gift shops in the malls around here.

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RE: The art of sexual arousal ? - 1/27/2009 10:22:49 AM

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I don't see how it has anything to do with religion. It is all about men being in control. Why else would full frontal nudity be okay for women and not men.
And if Kate Winslett has a problem being naked while men are not, perhaps she should keep her clothes on.

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RE: The art of sexual arousal ? - 1/27/2009 10:25:54 AM

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Please send me one of those statues for Christmas. I would sit it on my bed.
I can't believe there is anything I'd like to see in a movie more than Eric Bana naked. Maybe they could reshoot Troy and have all the male leads naked.

*Drools*

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RE: The art of sexual arousal ? - 1/27/2009 10:33:50 AM

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see yeah, i kinda agree with that. if you have a problem with the inequality in showing frontal male nudity vs. showing frontal female nudity, then why play into it and show yourself full frontal?
just don't do the scene/keep on your clothes/get your insanely high paid lawyers involved
celebrities often take stances but rarely do anything about anything =p

religion has to do with it only in the sense that religion is often the primary tool of male control. "hey, god says you're subservient to me! what are you going to say to that?!"
but i think at its core it is an issue of male control.
you can wander into a museum and see TONS of "nudes" which are just naked ladies. nobody has an issue with those. the naked female form is an art object or it's unseen altogether, as in the sense of "muses," like in Giorgione's "Pastoral Concert."
the women are naked but they're not even real. =p
meanwhile, male nudity and erections were elevated to a hilarious level of sacredness. there were tribes where women who witnessed male "rites" would be gangbanged (seriously) and killed by all the males of the tribe.

i think the aversion to male nudity MIGHT come from something like this that's still lingering in people. i don't know.

i don't want to go out and see it. but female nudes are just as sexualised in a particularly gendered way, but people let that slide every day. it's more subliminal maybe, but nobody besides those chicks in gorilla masks seem to care.
if people are going to complain, atleast be consistent.

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RE: The art of sexual arousal ? - 1/27/2009 12:00:52 PM

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I honestly can't think of anything that I'd be offended by.

Grossed out, maybe... but I can do this easy little thing called 'averting my eyes' which seems to do the trick.

You also seem to think I'm advocating having raging hard-ons everywhere all the time. Not quite... but I don't see why there's such a stigma attached to it. If the state purchases a new fountain and one of the spouts is a man's erect penis, I wouldn't find it offensive. Silly, yes, but not offensive.

Then again I'm also someone who's in favor of relaxing laws on nudity in general, anyways, not just in art. Saying that there's a "time and a place" for it is the same thing as restricting it, in my book, which is what I'm against.

With more exposure to nudity people wouldn't be as 'squicked' by it, in general.

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RE: The art of sexual arousal ? - 1/27/2009 12:58:02 PM

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funny..just opened the news paper...and read about an exhibition of the vagina.
It goes from museum to museum and propably overtime to other countries also.
It is called Mea Vulva. The only ones protesting against it were religious groups.

http://web.me.com/artivo/www.meavulva.nl/Fotos.html

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RE: The art of sexual arousal ? - 1/27/2009 1:01:10 PM

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ooooooh that sounds cool!

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RE: The art of sexual arousal ? - 1/27/2009 3:02:09 PM

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Are they protesting Georgia O'Keeffe works too?
Or perhaps the Sheela Na Gigs?

http://thehomedecorgalleria.com/d88-sheela-na-gig-celtic-art.html

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RE: The art of sexual arousal ? - 1/27/2009 3:05:20 PM

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They don't care here so much what is been shown to be honest. Mostly some religious groups...but I think that is boredom.
People are very open minded. If you don't want to see it..don't go.

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RE: The art of sexual arousal ? - 1/27/2009 3:08:13 PM

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That is the simplest solution, no?

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RE: The art of sexual arousal ? - 1/27/2009 3:08:34 PM

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Hmm I would say that its about the male gaze, men hold the positions of power and largly dont want to see other men (see fear of homosexuality in men) and looking at a nude woman is comforting to men, keeps them in control.

Just look at the contenet in public galleries, most of the artists are men, most of the nudes are of women (gurrilla girls http://www.guerrillagirls.com/)

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RE: The art of sexual arousal ? - 1/27/2009 3:37:55 PM

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Very true, the still female nude reclining in the male gaze is a standard of high art.
Thanks for the Guerilla Girls, they look interesting to say the least.

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