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MHOO314 -> Online or Distance relationships (1/12/2006 8:22:08 PM)
We have lately had many spirited discussions about submissives versus slaves---slaves being presented as someone with no will or someone who gives up will completely ( I guess)--My question is in the context of online or an LDR--how does a slave relationship exist? The slave is obviously living on their own, how are decisions made? How does it work?

yourMissTress -> RE: Online or Distance relationships (1/12/2006 8:31:01 PM)
You read my mind....

Arpig -> RE: Online or Distance relationships (1/12/2006 8:39:37 PM)
LDR's suck BIG TIME period! Actually I suppose it could work, with the slave being delegated a certain amount of responisbility in certain fields (much as I would imagine would be the case where the slave had a job, I mean if my slave were pretty much anything but a computer jockey, then I would be unqualified to make most job related decisions for her or him, so would have to allow the slave some autonomy in that sphere.) It is also possible, in this day of IM, email, and cell phones to keep in pretty close and continuous contact, so perhaps the slave consults regularly. Just a few ideas...

Smythe -> RE: Online or Distance relationships (1/12/2006 8:45:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MHOO314 We have lately had many spirited discussions about submissives versus slaves---slaves being presented as someone with no will or someone who gives up will completely ( I guess)--My question is in the context of online or an LDR--how does a slave relationship exist? The slave is obviously living on their own, how are decisions made? How does it work? I know that there are people who do this, or think that they do, with a lot of communication and devotion. But my view is that it is simply impossible. Assuming that we do have some kind of real slavery within our BDSM community, that means the slave is owned and has no rights, no independence. How can this occur where slave and owner may be far apart? I bet we need a new word for this kind of relationship. Smythe

cloudboy -> RE: Online or Distance relationships (1/12/2006 8:58:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MHOO314 We have lately had many spirited discussions about submissives versus slaves---slaves being presented as someone with no will or someone who gives up will completely ( I guess)--My question is in the context of online or an LDR--how does a slave relationship exist? The slave is obviously living on their own, how are decisions made? How does it work? Well, once you meet and engage a real person, its best to just throw all the jargon out the window and be yourselves while setting your own native terms, rules, and protocols. The emphasis should be on how you fit together and what you want to do for each other.

truesub4u -> RE: Online or Distance relationships (1/12/2006 8:58:39 PM)
On line, LDR.... hmmmm For some, I guess it's all they got.... for now.... or will ever have. The question is. Who is it really real to? Oh sure, you can cam with each other. A Dom can order the submissive to do certain things and sit back and watch. (isn't that the same as cyber sex?) Or better yet.... I'm sorry I don't have a cam to prove i'm doing as told.. you'll just have to trust I am. The one I love best.... tonight sleep with dildo in your ass.... Yes Master.... and they go to bed laughing... knowing tomorrow they'll tell them.. oh yes Master I sure did. I don't know MHOO.... this is a tough one.... LOL

michaelGA -> RE: Online or Distance relationships (1/12/2006 9:00:08 PM)
quote: I bet we need a new word for this kind of relationship. how about Compu-masochism?

veronicaofML -> RE: Online or Distance relationships (1/12/2006 9:07:01 PM)
how? oh kay lemme tell ya MY story ===================== if i make ya mad...not my fault ================ my 1st domme...was online before i moved to calif--for r/t SHE dictated how much i could spend for what out of my paychecks She said what i was/was not allowed to do away from home She said what i could/could not buy for grocery...etc etc it DOES work SHE dictated my every movement She said what i was/was not allowed to see on TV. but hey it's just me..k?

MHOO314 -> RE: Online or Distance relationships (1/12/2006 9:12:25 PM)
we love you for being the way you are--thanks

MHOO314 -> RE: Online or Distance relationships (1/12/2006 9:14:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: michaelGA quote: I bet we need a new word for this kind of relationship. how about Compu-masochism? THAT is priceless!

veronicaofML -> RE: Online or Distance relationships (1/12/2006 9:19:17 PM)
we love you for being the way you are--thanks ---------------------------------------------------------- You're one...20 million to go....................lol

truesub4u -> RE: Online or Distance relationships (1/12/2006 9:21:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: veronicaofML we love you for being the way you are--thanks ---------------------------------------------------------- You're one...20 million to go....................lol oh hell. i've grown to admire you as well..... so add me too.... LOL

Smythe -> RE: Online or Distance relationships (1/12/2006 9:23:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MHOO314 we love you for being the way you are--thanks I don't know if I love him or not, but I think I do. Isn't it just great when the posts seem to be going a certain way and then one lone voice pipes up and says "I beg to differ" ?? Thanks veronica. Smythe Oh, PS: I still don't think that is slavery in the way I view it. I think you were very very submissive to her will, but you still had quite a lot of choice. you could suddenly stop answering the phone, or one day in the 7-11 buy an unauthorized Slurpee. In the end, though, it matters most what She and you thought.

veronicaofML -> RE: Online or Distance relationships (1/12/2006 9:32:05 PM)
I don't know if I love him or not, but I think I do. Isn't it just great when the posts seem to be going a certain way and then one lone voice pipes up and says "I beg to differ" ?? Thanks veronica. Smythe ============ in my bad john wayne-ish manner.... sticks my hands in my pockets...kicks a rock... aw shucks Ma'am....t'werent nuffin any good ole cowpoke wouldnt a-done fer a Lady...

MHOO314 -> RE: Online or Distance relationships (1/12/2006 9:32:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Smythe Smythe Oh, PS: I still don't think that is slavery in the way I view it. I think you were very very submissive to her will, but you still had quite a lot of choice. you could suddenly stop answering the phone, or one day in the 7-11 buy an unauthorized Slurpee. In the end, though, it matters most what She and you thought. I am on the floor, what punishment does one offer for an unauthorized Slurpee??

veronicaofML -> RE: Online or Distance relationships (1/12/2006 9:34:05 PM)
20 swats... and that is just the hands--just like my teachers did to me with rulers 20 more for the butt lol

truesub4u -> RE: Online or Distance relationships (1/12/2006 9:41:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MHOO314 quote: ORIGINAL: Smythe Smythe Oh, PS: I still don't think that is slavery in the way I view it. I think you were very very submissive to her will, but you still had quite a lot of choice. you could suddenly stop answering the phone, or one day in the 7-11 buy an unauthorized Slurpee. In the end, though, it matters most what She and you thought. I am on the floor, what punishment does one offer for an unauthorized Slurpee?? lmao MHOO... too funny... i agree with Veronica... 20 swats on the butt....

OscarHargraves -> RE: Online or Distance relationships (1/12/2006 9:44:38 PM)
My opinion. (Fireproof suit on!) It doesn't. They don't. The two people can play at it and do some things but as you mentioned there is nobody there but the slave to make the decisions and handle the daily necessities. For them it has to be a game or a way of getting to know what the other person might want before they actually get together and form a r/t relationship.

foxglove716 -> RE: Online or Distance relationships (1/12/2006 9:54:02 PM)
LDR works... or at least as well as it can... in my case. I understand OscarHargraves' point that the slave is forced to live independantly, so maybe LDR is better for a sub than a slave. I am a sub, I do have a little freedom, BDSM makes me relish that freedom because it is so precious and rare. Im in a LDR right now, and am by no means unhappy. I can always feel Sir with me, guiding me and watching over me when Im alone. Its a very comforting thought.

veronicaofML -> RE: Online or Distance relationships (1/12/2006 11:05:56 PM)
one thing about it? it takes extraordinary honesty....on both ends... it CAN work...it's difficult....but is possible. not everyone can do it. not a topic that has any concrete trueisms for sure.

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