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MistressFuXyoo -> is "wifeydommebait" ethical ??? (2/2/2009 11:03:10 AM)

Hello everyone.. i am just wondering what submissives seeking Mistresses think about a common technique women/mistresses use  to find their alpha males(in their marriage/households)a new girl/boy to play with..Lets call it ''wifeydommebait" for practicalities sake.Now dont get all upset n all protocolly on me...I try to be a realist
but it does come across as wives trying to satisfy husbands 3some fantasies or be an intermediary for his maybe homosexual desires (in scenario Mistress seeking male sub"
I am interested in submissives and whether they find these types of concealed agendas offensive or frustrating or misleading

"Insert lame intellectual wannabe quote/line in poem here>>"




colouredin -> RE: is "wifeydommebait" ethical ??? (2/2/2009 11:05:48 AM)

Im sorry I really dont know what you are asking, maybe someone else can work it out, if not could you be a bit clearer?




T1981 -> RE: is "wifeydommebait" ethical ??? (2/2/2009 11:13:11 AM)

I think the OP is talking about the frustration of coming across profiles that aren't entirely sincere, i.e - people that would rather find people to serve as props (as another poster put it recently) in a fantasy rather than any actual emotional or intellectual journey, often brought about by bored/desperate wives or husbands trying to hold onto their spouse's interest.

To me the idea seems a tad distasteful unless it's put out there pretty plainly that you are just looking to fufill your spouse's fantasy. (Which could be considered romantic, sweet, and fun in some circles). Honesty would make the difference in my eyes.





Madame4a -> RE: is "wifeydommebait" ethical ??? (2/2/2009 11:19:29 AM)

I clearly don't get it either... [8|]

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ORIGINAL: colouredin

Im sorry I really dont know what you are asking, maybe someone else can work it out, if not could you be a bit clearer?




MistressFuXyoo -> RE: is "wifeydommebait" ethical ??? (2/2/2009 11:34:58 AM)

Hello T1981  ..yes you worded it perfectly... cheers... i also find transparency +Ds romantic...
                     




CalifChick -> RE: is "wifeydommebait" ethical ??? (2/2/2009 11:37:12 AM)

I find it distasteful when anyone conceals their true agenda. 


Cali




feydeplume -> RE: is "wifeydommebait" ethical ??? (2/2/2009 11:37:16 AM)

I am going to go out on a limb here and say it depends on if the ad/profile is up front about it or not. Years ago my M put up an ad saying he wanted a play partner/companion/shopping buddy for me while he was at work or busy. He was clear in the ad about not being part of the relationship, other than as friends and that HE was putting up the ad so that there would be no confusion about his permission or acceptance of my new girlfriend. That was truth in advertising. Sadly a bunch of women tried to get to him through me!

But i would imagine that the reader of the ad must be careful and clear about what they are reading. If they have interest or doubts (lets face it, we aren't all perfect communicators), the email with specific questions. Buyer Be Ware.




Honsoku -> RE: is "wifeydommebait" ethical ??? (2/2/2009 11:39:30 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressFuXyoo

Hello everyone.. i am just wondering what submissives seeking Mistresses think about a common technique women/mistresses use to find their alpha males(in their marriage/households)a new girl/boy to play with..Lets call it ''wifeydommebait" for practicalities sake.Now dont get all upset n all protocolly on me...I try to be a realist
but it does come across as wives trying to satisfy husbands 3some fantasies or be an intermediary for his maybe homosexual desires (in scenario Mistress seeking male sub"
I am interested in submissives and whether they find these types of concealed agendas offensive or frustrating or misleading

"Insert lame intellectual wannabe quote/line in poem here>>"



She is referring to women putting up profiles seeking submissive "friends" only to actually be seeking play partners for her dominant or future "additions" to the family. Being on the wrong side of the fence, I personally haven't been on the receiving end of that. However, I do think that such bait-and-switch behavior is rather unethical. That said, I also realize that many women who do end up interested in that sort of thing would never converse with someone who stated up front that it was their intent to find such a person. Such behavior is still twattery though.




DesFIP -> RE: is "wifeydommebait" ethical ??? (2/2/2009 12:29:25 PM)

What I don't get is why if a wife/gf/submissive does post looking for another female, then how does the sife/gf/sub automatically become a domme?

As far as dommes with male subs who seek an additional male for service including male on male interaction? So what? Why does the op think the domme doesn't like watching that herself in addition to choosing to give her spouse/bf/sub something he likes?




NCNutCase -> RE: is "wifeydommebait" ethical ??? (2/2/2009 1:09:42 PM)


It boils down to... if the ad is honest about what he/she/they are looking for... then all power to them...

If the ad is pulling people in with one enticing situation... then being "baited and switched" into a different situation... then it is dishonest and deceitful...

As soon as you (or anyone) finds a way to remove dishonesty from humanity in general I'll gladly support your campaign to any degree ;-)




feydeplume -> RE: is "wifeydommebait" ethical ??? (2/2/2009 1:27:30 PM)

quote:

As soon as you (or anyone) finds a way to remove dishonesty from humanity in general I'll gladly support your campaign to any degree ;-)


How about electro-shock therapy (for those that don't like it), ball gags (again for those that ain't into it) and naked public shunning (for those that wouldn't get off on it) for punishments and for rewards for previous offenders.. well the sky is the limit there.

I bet we could even get a reality tv show going, maybe even pay per view





daddysliloneds -> RE: is "wifeydommebait" ethical ??? (2/2/2009 3:12:56 PM)

ethical standards are different for everyone; what is acceptable for one isn't for another...

other than that, i didn't really figure out what your question was except that it had to do with ethical/unethical behavior.




LarabysLair -> RE: is "wifeydommebait" ethical ??? (2/2/2009 4:03:49 PM)

I don't particularly see anything "unethical" about that sort of thing. As long as everyone, like the third in this scenario has communicated and everyone understands the meaning and rules and expectations.

The only things in this lifestyle that I find unethical are the lies, deceits, distortions, hiding, fakery, and miscommunications that are known to occur from time to time. If honesty where the rule, instead of the exception, ethics would never be seen as an issue.

Call me LL




DesFIP -> RE: is "wifeydommebait" ethical ??? (2/3/2009 12:28:39 PM)

Laraby, I'm interested in why you think miscommunication is always deliberate. Because around here it is never deliberate and has always been the basis of the few problems we've had over the past six years. He says something believing I understand it the way he meant it, and I understand it to mean something else. Or I say something and he misunderstands it.

This isn't an example of being unethical but of being different human beings who cannot read each other's minds.




WyldHrt -> RE: is "wifeydommebait" ethical ??? (2/3/2009 7:46:16 PM)

quote:

What I don't get is why if a wife/gf/submissive does post looking for another female, then how does the sife/gf/sub automatically become a domme?

I think the OP is referring to cases where the wife/gf/sub approaches subs as a domme when she really isn't a D nor looking for a sub of her own; instead she is simply procuring for her partner.

I don't like deception or "hidden agendas". If someone can't/ won't be upfront with me, I'm gone.






LarabysLair -> RE: is "wifeydommebait" ethical ??? (2/3/2009 11:57:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Laraby, I'm interested in why you think miscommunication is always deliberate. Because around here it is never deliberate and has always been the basis of the few problems we've had over the past six years. He says something believing I understand it the way he meant it, and I understand it to mean something else. Or I say something and he misunderstands it.

This isn't an example of being unethical but of being different human beings who cannot read each other's minds.


Hey Des

I refer to deliberate miscommunication, not mistaken communication or failure to communicate. What I mean by miscommunication is, for example,  the way someone will reply to a question by answering a different question than the one which was asked, in a deliberate way to avoid actual transfer of understanding, or by changing the subject, or by avoiding the question entirely, or by faking obtuseness. These and other forms of miscommunication are indeed often deliberate and, as I said, unethical to me.

Call me LL




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