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kisshou -> RE: Observation about posts.... (1/14/2006 7:19:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KnightofMists slides a little "TO DO" List into Chaingang's hand Paint Knight's house Fix Knight's garage door Replace Knight's Roof on the garage Redo the Main Bath in Knight's house Redo the Downstairs Bathroom at Knight's house. reading this list of chores made me get all wet, I can see you are another evil Master ;) a service slut or a slut for service

tasha_tart -> RE: Observation about posts.... (1/14/2006 7:43:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mistoferin I was looking at the hit counts on various posts and realized that most posts seem to get about 10 percent (roughly) of the people posting to actually respond. I noticed a post on the board asking a question about singletails that has only a few hits and 0 responses. Then I noticed that the newest, latest rant post on the board (which has been there for far less time) has over 150 hits and a fair number of responses so far. I have noticed that posts that are of the ranting variety and posts with flames do tend to get far more hit and responses in general. What does this say to you? Well, in this example, I'd say...anyone can add his/her opinion to a "rant" (and I definitely include myself in that group)...but far fewer people can make a meaningful contribution to a thread on singletails. "Rants" often don't start as rants, but as fairly reasonable questions, but do tend to stir some strong emotions. When people get riled up, they are more likely to post. Tasha

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Observation about posts.... (1/14/2006 9:12:08 PM)
quote: I noticed a post on the board asking a question about singletails that has only a few hits and 0 responses. Participation might be interest and experience related as well. I have little interest in singletails, except for watching people I trust/respect use one, and that can't be done at collarme boards. I'm in touch with people who I hope will allow me exposure to that in the future, but outside of that, I have no opinion on singletails. M

Wolfie648 -> RE: Observation about posts.... (1/14/2006 11:12:43 PM)
quote: I was looking at the hit counts on various posts and realized that most posts seem to get about 10 percent (roughly) of the people posting to actually respond. I noticed a post on the board asking a question about singletails that has only a few hits and 0 responses. Then I noticed that the newest, latest rant post on the board (which has been there for far less time) has over 150 hits and a fair number of responses so far. I have noticed that posts that are of the ranting variety and posts with flames do tend to get far more hit and responses in general. What does this say to you? Good old 80/20 rule (which I think is outdated perhaps, but hopefully most will have it as a reference point). 80% of your income is from your best customers. 80% of your good information comes from 20% of the people. 80% of what you read is junk. 90% of what you learn after high school you learn from reading.... Gotta luv stats. People flaming and/or defending are _personally involved_ in the situation at hand (I have some personal experience with this ;-) and as such tend to be prolific. It's like giving child birth (mmm k' it's about 1%, or less, of giving birth to a child) with ideas. Propagate or die. The ideas that last are your decendants. One tends to defend their offspring. D (owner of j)

girl4you2 -> RE: Observation about posts.... (1/14/2006 11:27:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger To draw a parallel: Why do newspapers and news organizations rarely focus on the good news and instead always the bad. Why wouldn't these organizations make any money if they mostly reported good news? I think most would much rather read and focus on a rant because in some way the negativity aspect applies to them. - The Ranger i remember when the news was the news, not newsertainment. they sure did manage to sell a good deal of papers back in the old days; hurst made a fortune. life isn't always total fluff and happy things. the news should be the news.

girl4you2 -> RE: Observation about posts.... (1/14/2006 11:30:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44 People love their drama? Yes, we'd rather see a train wreck then a box full of kittens. Hell, without confilct there wouldn't be change, right? i'd much rather see a box full of kittens (with homes to go to) than a train wreck. i don't watch when ambulances are treating motor vehicle accidents, either. i truly believe that if people saw what they think they want to see, they'd not look after seeing it once. i could post some horrific links.

EvilGeoff -> RE: Observation about posts.... (1/14/2006 11:31:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mistoferin I have noticed that posts that are of the ranting variety and posts with flames do tend to get far more hit and responses in general. What does this say to you? More people are interested in _people_ than technique, though good how-to threads might draw a lot of traffic. Almost everyone is interested in other people. What they are doing, what they look like, how much money they make, how often they have sex.... People are interesting. Topical threads however, will get fewer hits because they draw a smaller subset of people to them by interest. Strictly as an example and I am NOT saying this is valid empirical statistical data: You have 500 people subscribed to the board... JoeBob starts a thread about needle play. The 20 hard core needleplayers will hop over to looky looky, 5 of them may even post in reply. You might get 20 or 30 or even more to take a gander cause they are curious. Depending on what's gone before, you'll get 2 - 3 to post questions or comments.... then you get those 9 or ten checking back from time to time to see what's new. SallySubby posts a "My Master Is a Total Jerkwad" thread Now most of the Domly types are going to go so we can find out what it is that Master Jerkwad did, and then either A) see it's none of our concern and go back to lurking, B) defend the honor and pride of the Domly race, or C) Write off Jerkwad as a poser/abuser/wannabe/skunk. The subly types will go to see what it was that Jerkwad did and then either A) see it's none of their concern and go back to lurking, B) post messages of agreement, support and sympathy, C) post messages telling her she doesn't appreciate what a fine upstanding Master Jerkwad is, D) defend the honor and pride of the subly race, E) share similar experiences. Sally will get 250 hits and maybe 30 replies in a hurry. Then the trolls come in and try to get someone to cyber with them and now you have 400 hits and 50 messages... grins Gawd I love this place! - Geoff

cravinspankin -> RE: Observation about posts.... (1/14/2006 11:41:31 PM)
Not to hijack this thread, but I have to disagree on the newspapers and media, but then... as I'm a member of the media, perhaps i see it from a different perspective than you. Still, it never ceases to perplex me how the media is the one career few people have experience in, yet everyone seems to think they know exactly what it is we do and how, and constantly takees a bashing. Just my two cents worth.

EvilGeoff -> RE: Observation about posts.... (1/15/2006 12:01:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cravinspankin Still, it never ceases to perplex me how the media is the one career few people have experience in, yet everyone seems to think they know exactly what it is we do and how, and constantly takees a bashing. Just my two cents worth. Do not touch your dial... we are in control... [/thread hijack mode on] grins Now cravin... how many "reporter jokes" do you know? Now how many "lawyer jokes"? I can't recall any reporter jokes in my own repetoire, but lawyer jokes? I got dozens! But I will certainly grant that media mistakes DO generate a lot of ... well.... media, simply because it is highly visible. And when John & Jane Q Public feel like they've been misled, they'll generate a lot of flack. When a paper or TV show screws up, they have an audience of thousands, perhaps even millions who may notice and start complaining. When Steve the Accountant screws up, he has an audience of one, or just a few, who might notice. Difference in scale as it were. Just remember that people, being people, will usually opine that _they_ would certainly have done it better, faster, smarter, easier, differently than _insert_bozo_here_ from _career_field_there_, regardless of whether or not they have any actual knowledge of the field itself. [/hijack thread mode off] We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.... YIK, - Geoff

ExistentialSteel -> RE: Observation about posts.... (1/15/2006 1:02:15 AM)
I predict this post will get many, many hits...smile. It is all about people. We want personalities, to hear about other's problems and to see emotions between people. It is why TV sports focus on the personalities of the players.

MHOO314 -> RE: Observation about posts.... (1/15/2006 7:24:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mistoferin I was looking at the hit counts on various posts and realized that most posts seem to get about 10 percent (roughly) of the people posting to actually respond. I noticed a post on the board asking a question about singletails that has only a few hits and 0 responses. Then I noticed that the newest, latest rant post on the board (which has been there for far less time) has over 150 hits and a fair number of responses so far. I have noticed that posts that are of the ranting variety and posts with flames do tend to get far more hit and responses in general. What does this say to you? I think IMHO there may be two tactics at work here--unfortunately we as humans live life vicariously--it takes the focus off our own troubles--it all started when the first caveman lusted after someone else's booty (possessions here people. not butts)- and the others watched the ensuing battle-- We usually do one of three things, we "tsk tsk" and go back to our lives, we "tsk tsk and go hug the family and thank heaven we are not there"--or we "get mad as hell and do something about it"--I for one fall more in to the second and third, but I am damn guilty of the first too---as for trainwrecks, as an ex cop and paramedic, sure I look, I stop, I try to help--I have even much to My family's consternation, taken on-- unarmed--a fool with a steel pipe at a construction site who was threatening a watchman-- but we look--its in our nature, animals don't look, they sniff and move on-- The other tactic, I know I use, is I look for certain people that post, not so much the topic but the post, I know it will be interesting, insightful, flammatory, but always educational, whether I like it or not---smiles--this is like going to one's neighborhood bar and seeing the cars of the regulars in the parking lot, some you roll your eyes over, some you embrace, but you are pleased to always have your assigned place--and a cold drink waiting--

mistoferin -> RE: Observation about posts.... (1/15/2006 7:36:46 AM)
quote: this is like going to one's neighborhood bar and seeing the cars of the regulars in the parking lot, some you roll your eyes over, some you embrace, but you are pleased to always have your assigned place--and a cold drink waiting-- Wow great analogy. Well I saw myself in the group that frequents the "hot" posts...and it made me wonder if I was a "voyeur" to other's crisis, tragedy and emotion or if I am just fairly normal and curious like so many others obviously are. A few here have mentioned that it is about people...and I think that is where I fall into this. People to me are interesting. I want to know how they live, why they live, how they think about how they live, how they think about how others live and what makes them tick. There is also the "entertainment factor". I spend my time on here to learn, to share...sometimes to try to help....but also to be entertained. Someone made a comment to me on here the other day about my "noble intentions" and I really just had to laugh. I don't think I have ever awakened and said "Wow, I am feeling full of noble intentions...I better get right on collarme and start a post". No, I just like most others, come here to pass my time. Sometimes it turns out to be simply time spent....and sometimes it turns out to be something far deeper and more meaningful. But I never know the outcome before I sign on.

IronBear -> RE: Observation about posts.... (1/15/2006 7:43:40 AM)
I think that people generally and especially in the West are wired to find negatives, blood and gore of the distress of others more interesting that the good news and feel good stories. Perhaps it is a case of "There, but for the grace of (insert your own deity etc here) go I". Just like disasters on the roads or in the towns and cities have their Rubber Necks, here we have Cyber Rubber Necks.

denika -> RE: Observation about posts.... (1/16/2006 7:46:10 AM)
Hmmm, copies down list ROB!!!! s any exscuse to wear his tool belt w denika

candystripper -> RE: Observation about posts.... (1/20/2006 2:43:44 PM)
quote: SallySubby posts a "My Master Is a Total Jerkwad" thread Now most of the Domly types are going to go so we can find out what it is that Master Jerkwad did, and then either A) see it's none of our concern and go back to lurking, B) defend the honor and pride of the Domly race, or C) Write off Jerkwad as a poser/abuser/wannabe/skunk. The subly types will go to see what it was that Jerkwad did and then either A) see it's none of their concern and go back to lurking, B) post messages of agreement, support and sympathy, C) post messages telling her she doesn't appreciate what a fine upstanding Master Jerkwad is, D) defend the honor and pride of the subly race, E) share similar experiences. Sally will get 250 hits and maybe 30 replies in a hurry. Then the trolls come in and try to get someone to cyber with them and now you have 400 hits and 50 messages... grins Gawd I love this place! - Geoff This made me laugh out loud. Master Jerkwad indeed. The Man is my boogeyman...i wait and find my One, and He's an a**hole, ROFLMAO. And being me, i keep wondering "can i change Him?" LMAO. candystripper

LadySiraufgaube -> RE: Observation about posts.... (1/20/2006 3:32:29 PM)
Well from a point of view from someone who reads all the subjects but doesn't post often...If I come into the thread and it's and rant and it's enogh to make me shake my head and go "oh gawd" then I leave especially if there are already a number of posts in answer to it because there are a great number of level heads in this place that give sensible and well thought out advice and I am sure that somebody has told the ranter, politely of course, to get their head out of their butt. I don't need to add to the mass confusion. If however the post is something I know or can add an opinion and my point of view has not already been stated by somebody else then I will post. But often someone has already made the very same comment that I would and there's no point in repeating it. But I do read all the threads and everyone's comments and so I am one that adds to the hits but not the posts. Sorry Oh and candystripper, you can't change a man unless he's in diapers!

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