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Vendaval -> RE: Obama's first broken Promise (2/8/2009 4:18:24 PM)
What does the sales of the books say about those who buy and read them then? Isn't this the free market enterprise at its finest selling whatever the market will bear? quote: ORIGINAL: MasterShake69 question WHat does global warming,, 9/11 was perpetrated by the government, there are aliens at Area 51 have in common? answer All 3 are used by liberals to sell books.

MasterShake69 -> RE: Obama's first broken Promise (2/8/2009 4:32:02 PM)
Why should we pay for the health care of other nations? I agree Bush failed in protecting our border. That’s because Bush was always weak on that position. We can imagine if the border was protected properly during the past 2 decades. Then we wouldn’t have the problems we have today. It’s been a shared failure of both Bush and Clinton. Since Obama wants to renegotiate or end NAFTA maybe have an illegal healthcare tax on all goods entering the US from Mexico. ;) quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 quote: ORIGINAL: MasterShake69 You may notice during the past 2 decades the increase problems in the US health care system. While during the same time period, a corresponding dramatic increase in illegal aliens entering the US occured. In no way, one has anything to do with the other. [8\|] So you`d divide out the sick illegals from the rest and then leave`m in an ally or backwood? Or maybe you`d be so generous as to take them to border and shove them back over,ambulatory or not? ~~~~~~~~~ Under bush,the amount of illegals crossing over, doubled. Did the problems with our health care system also double, over the last 8 years? Nope. Could the bush law that Medicare/Medicaid and the VA could not(by law) bargain with drug companies for for better bulk pricing, have a negative affect? Yup.

MasterShake69 -> RE: Obama's first broken Promise (2/8/2009 4:53:25 PM)
I used a news source one time that the people on the far, far, left have difficulty excepting. It’s not because of the source reporting something that isn’t true. It’s the fact that the source isn’t from a known liberal or pro democrat site. That’s why the story detailed so many problems with Obamas changes. heres another source for your enjoyment http://www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/cg_20090207_4713.php quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife [sm=banghead.gif] Again, I'm not arguing that point. The only thing I've ever argued in this post is the validity of your link. An issue you have totally skirted by putting up one smokescreen after another, and changing the argument countless times. [sm=beatdeadhorse.gif] Buh-bye now, buh-bye.

MasterShake69 -> RE: Obama's first broken Promise (2/8/2009 4:58:26 PM)
Just as long as they aren’t in front of me on line in the store. They take like 10 minutes each because they are digging in their purse because they are paying with exact change ;) quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy It is time to dismantle medicare. "Ain't no fuckin' way that I should be forced to pahhhrtisseeepate in some sort of a comeeee, faggotty, red, soshillIzed medical bullsheeeet program!" (Domiguy disgustingly tugs at the bill of his John Deere cap, spits some toebackee on the ground) "Fuck the elderly! make them pay what the market bears. Those aged fuckers are a plight on the welfare of this red,white and blue nation. These fucking colors don't run! Please join my petition to have the eldery all rounded up and jettisoned into space."

MasterShake69 -> RE: Obama's first broken Promise (2/8/2009 5:05:46 PM)
I believe they had an episode of star trek with a similar concept. http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/David_Ogden_Stiers http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Half_a_Life_%28episode%29 Timicin is especially crushed by the failure of his experiment, and the reasons for this become evident as Lwaxana bonds further with the scientist. Discovering that, approaching the age of 60, Timicin is upon return to his planet planned to commit ritual suicide, quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy quote: ORIGINAL: FullCircle Jettisoning pensioners into space is too costly I put forward the motion that care workers conduct a life assessment as to if the level of life is worth living first. True. A significant pension could offset any discrepancy betwix medicare and the actual cost of care. Then again it would be kind of cool that once you hit a universal age of irrelavance you are immediately jettisoned off of the planet. Can you imagine the fanfare and the money that the gov't could garner buy selling advertisement and all of the broadcast rights to the viewing of the spaceships departure? It would be a touching ceremony. They would get to say some nice words before boarding, something touching about their country and flag. If they go too long, music would start playing similar to the Academy Awards and they would be immediately shoved into the spacecraft.

MasterShake69 -> RE: Obama's first broken Promise (2/8/2009 5:15:31 PM)
I have no problem with people reading and for a moment using their imagination and believing in science fiction. As long as they ultimately understand it’s not real. Also if aliens are advanced enough for interplanetary travel, then they would know how to land there spaceship without crashing. ;) Remember in 1969 we didnt crash on the moon. quote: ORIGINAL: Vendaval What does the sales of the books say about those who buy and read them then? Isn't this the free market enterprise at its finest selling whatever the market will bear? quote: ORIGINAL: MasterShake69 question WHat does global warming,, 9/11 was perpetrated by the government, there are aliens at Area 51 have in common? answer All 3 are used by liberals to sell books.

rulemylife -> RE: Obama's first broken Promise (2/8/2009 5:16:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterShake69 I used a news source one time that the people on the far, far, left have difficulty excepting. It’s not because of the source reporting something that isn’t true. It’s the fact that the source isn’t from a known liberal or pro democrat site. That’s why the story detailed so many problems with Obamas changes. heres another source for your enjoyment Well, before you go off on a tangent about what liberals cannot accept, you might want to double-check things. Then you'll see I was not questioning your source but responding to a subsequent poster.

Vendaval -> RE: Obama's first broken Promise (2/8/2009 5:23:42 PM)
The fact that you tie the first 2 news items to the 3rd says far more about your line of reasoning and view of reality than any else's. If we are so advanced as a species then why are their millions of deaths from car crashes and other transportation failures every year? A few landings on the moon do not prove we are advanced.

Coldwarrior57 -> RE: Obama's first broken Promise (2/8/2009 5:26:21 PM)
ROFLMAO! I love the people that HAVE to respond to a post they do not like, then refuse to comment on it, or make some wierd inuendo about the OP. The obamabots have spoken , dissent is no longer patriotic. LOL Sieg hail. You cannot ever ever never ever say ANYTHING negative about this president no matter how truthfull it is. and just for shits n giggles this is not the first promise broken, to my knowledge the first one was , no lobbist in his administration, he had 16 at last count , and 3 tax cheats n counting. But no one wants the truth, just dopey hopie changie!

MasterShake69 -> RE: Obama's first broken Promise (2/8/2009 6:17:03 PM)
yes i see...sorry ;) my bad quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: MasterShake69 I used a news source one time that the people on the far, far, left have difficulty excepting. It’s not because of the source reporting something that isn’t true. It’s the fact that the source isn’t from a known liberal or pro democrat site. That’s why the story detailed so many problems with Obamas changes. heres another source for your enjoyment Well, before you go off on a tangent about what liberals cannot accept, you might want to double-check things. Then you'll see I was not questioning your source but responding to a subsequent poster.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: Obama's first broken Promise (2/8/2009 6:20:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterShake69 http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0209/18441.html Obama breaks five-day pledge showInitialOdiogoReadNowFrame (_politico_odiogo_feed_ids, '0', 290, 0); By CARRIE BUDOFF BROWN \| 2/5/09 6:21 AM EST President Barack Obama kept one campaign pledge Wednesday afternoon and at the same time violated another when he signed into law the State Children’s Health Insurance Program, which extends health care coverage to 11 million low-income children. The White House views the SCHIP legislation as a down payment on Obama’s pledge to provide universal health care by the end of his first term. The bill ran into some partisan resistance because it allows states for the first time to use federal money to cover children and pregnant women who are legal immigrants. But Obama’s 5 p.m. signing came barely three hours after the House approved the bill, breaching Obama’s promise to have a five-day period of “sunlight before signing,” as he detailed on the campaign trail and on his website. “Too often bills are rushed through Congress and to the president before the public has the opportunity to review them,” the Obama-Biden campaign website states. “As president, Obama will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days.” Barack Obama Campaign Promise No. 234: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/promise/234/allow-five-days-of-public-comment-before-signing-b/ Honest to GAWWWWWDDDDD....what the fuckever.

MasterShake69 -> RE: Obama's first broken Promise (2/8/2009 6:27:04 PM)
Car crashes typically involve one of the following, being late, sleep deprivation, alcohol and or another vehicle. I don’t think space aliens have these problems. I used the example of a primitive life form such as man ability to land on the moon without crashing for a reason. Because then an alien species shouldn’t have a problem with landing on earth. quote: ORIGINAL: Vendaval The fact that you tie the first 2 news items to the 3rd says far more about your line of reasoning and view of reality than any else's. If we are so advanced as a species then why are their millions of deaths from car crashes and other transportation failures every year? A few landings on the moon do not prove we are advanced.

rulemylife -> RE: Obama's first broken Promise (2/8/2009 6:32:17 PM)
No problem. By the way, I do view Politico as an impartial source.

thishereboi -> RE: Obama's first broken Promise (2/8/2009 6:39:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Misrepresented? Excuse me, I corrected a fallacy and the link I used backed up the facts. If you didn't realize that smokers die younger than non-smokers before my link enlightened you... that is no reason for you to accuse me of wanting people to die, or of misrepresenting anything. quote: What I do recall is how you claimed to favor honesty while you were misrepresenting the facts in your link to try and imply that smokers are healthier than non-smokers. That point was totally missed.

Vendaval -> RE: Obama's first broken Promise (2/8/2009 7:20:04 PM)
And you are basing your assumptions on the intelligence and capabilities of unknown species from other planets based on what evidence? quote: ORIGINAL: MasterShake69 Car crashes typically involve one of the following, being late, sleep deprivation, alcohol and or another vehicle. I don’t think space aliens have these problems. I used the example of a primitive life form such as man ability to land on the moon without crashing for a reason. Because then an alien species shouldn’t have a problem with landing on earth.

aravain -> RE: Obama's first broken Promise (2/8/2009 7:34:03 PM)
Gotta agree with Vendaval... They could be total narcaleptics and accidentally fall asleep at the wheel right when they start to enter! Or they could be human-like beings riding in the largest single most destructive force in the universe (kudos to those who get the chopped reference). Why are we talking about aliens, again? [8\|]

Vendaval -> RE: Obama's first broken Promise (2/8/2009 8:50:47 PM)
Ask MS 69. [sm=dunno.gif]

rulemylife -> RE: Obama's first broken Promise (2/8/2009 9:56:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Misrepresented? Excuse me, I corrected a fallacy and the link I used backed up the facts. If you didn't realize that smokers die younger than non-smokers before my link enlightened you... that is no reason for you to accuse me of wanting people to die, or of misrepresenting anything. quote: What I do recall is how you claimed to favor honesty while you were misrepresenting the facts in your link to try and imply that smokers are healthier than non-smokers. That point was totally missed. And what point was that? Oh, you mean the point about one single study, with a dubious line of reasoning being a fact? Generally, facts are inferred from a multitude of studies and research that produce the same results. You know, kind of like all the other research that has not agreed with this "fact".

MasterShake69 -> RE: Obama's first broken Promise (2/8/2009 10:43:46 PM)
Belief #1 An Alien species that is able to develop interstellar transportation to star systems light years away from its home world would have certain abilities. They clearly would have had their own variation of a space program during some point of there existence. There space program would have experimented with different types of propulsion. Such a program would consume time and scarce resources that would need to be protected. Over time the Aliens technology would advance to a point where they would be able to safely voyage to their interstellar neighbors. They would logically have done experiments and become proficient in landing and returning to their home world duirng all stages of there manned space program. If not then why would they make the trip? Belief #2 The only other conclusion is space aliens send manned ships out into space light years away without testing then and just hope for the best. If they crash, then so what, the crew is expendable and they’ll just make another interstellar spaceship. That they progressed in space travel by shear quantity of space ships. The universe is littered with their crashed exploration ships. quote: ORIGINAL: Vendaval And you are basing your assumptions on the intelligence and capabilities of unknown species from other planets based on what evidence? quote: ORIGINAL: MasterShake69 Car crashes typically involve one of the following, being late, sleep deprivation, alcohol and or another vehicle. I don’t think space aliens have these problems. I used the example of a primitive life form such as man ability to land on the moon without crashing for a reason. Because then an alien species shouldn’t have a problem with landing on earth.

MasterShake69 -> RE: Obama's first broken Promise (2/8/2009 10:46:50 PM)
your response to my questioning of area 51 having aliens quote: ORIGINAL: Vendaval Ask MS 69. [sm=dunno.gif]

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