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cailean -> In your bondage experience what leaves the least marks? (1/15/2006 12:39:24 PM)

Hello,

Master and i are beginning to start our exploration in bondage. We have a chance to try out bondage for the first time coming up in February. i'm posting this to find out what materials that you've had used on you that left the least amount of marks (bruises, burns). Also, what positions, including where you were bounded, left marks in places that could be covered up with clothing?

Thank you,
cailean



JohnWarren -> RE: In your bondage experience what leaves the least marks? (1/15/2006 12:41:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cailean

Hello,

Master and i are beginning to start our exploration in bondage. We have a chance to try out bondage for the first time coming up in February. i'm posting this to find out what materials that you've had used on you that left the least amount of marks (bruises, burns). Also, what positions, including where you were bounded, left marks in places that could be covered up with clothing?

Thank you,
cailean


If you want a complete absence of marks, I recommend plastic-wrap mummification backed up, if you wish, by a duct tape outer layer.

Another approach is to use commercially made soft nylon cuffs.



dincubus -> RE: In your bondage experience what leaves the least marks? (1/15/2006 12:44:07 PM)

What works for me and mine is called tubular webbing. it is used primarily in rock climbing to make slings and harnesses. it is 100% nylon, very very very soft and has rounded edges. so there is nothing to have leave markes like one could with rope. the stuff that i have is about an inch wide, to distribute the "loading" better. feel free to reply to my CM email or if you would wish, you can tell you Sir that he can email me if he wishes

Blessed Be,
Dinc



mistoferin -> RE: In your bondage experience what leaves the least marks? (1/15/2006 12:56:34 PM)

High quality, rolled edged, lined leather cuffs.



cailean -> RE: In your bondage experience what leaves the least marks? (1/15/2006 1:01:06 PM)

Thank you very much for your suggestion. i'll begin doing research on that. :)



cailean -> RE: In your bondage experience what leaves the least marks? (1/15/2006 1:03:15 PM)

Thank you very much for your suggestion. i will tell Master and do some research on the webbing.



krys -> RE: In your bondage experience what leaves the least marks? (1/15/2006 6:15:56 PM)

Master uses Bondage Tape. It goes on in a second and can be cut loose very quickly when necessary. It sticks to itself, but not to your skin. It hasn't left a mark on me, and I have very sensetive, very pale skin. We weren't using it for suspension, and I wouldn't recommend trying it for that. But I absolutely LOVE this stuff. I can't praise it enough. Picked it up at the local adult video store.



newflowers -> RE: In your bondage experience what leaves the least marks? (1/15/2006 6:24:27 PM)

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High quality, rolled edged, lined leather cuffs.


yes, yes, yes - those lined in lambwool are too delicious for words.

newflowers



sub4hire -> RE: In your bondage experience what leaves the least marks? (1/15/2006 7:06:17 PM)

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i'm posting this to find out what materials that you've had used on you that left the least amount of marks (bruises, burns).


I used to know a guy who always carried around tube athletic socks in his toy bag.
He used to wrap them around your wrists and ankles. Once did it to me. I've broken things with cuffs on before so you could say...I'm a wee bit strong and I leave a hefty mark from a cuff. Even velcro ones.
Yet with his socks it never left a mark.

So, get a pack of those cheapy ones. Wrap them around your wrists and ankles then put the cuffs on. You can pull as hard as you want, no mark.
If you are real paranoid about marks....make it two socks on each appendage.



BitaTruble -> RE: In your bondage experience what leaves the least marks? (1/15/2006 7:49:57 PM)

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If you want a complete absence of marks, I recommend plastic-wrap mummification backed up, if you wish, by a duct tape outer layer.

Another approach is to use commercially made soft nylon cuffs.


With all due respect, I would not recommend plastic-wrap mummification for a 1st time bondage experience. Plastic wrap seems to be very innocuous, however, you are, effectively, depriving your skin of oxygen, raising your body temperature and it does not have the benefit of quick release if you mind that bondage is something that 'sounds' good but the practice of the same may not jive with your fantasy. Besides the obvious issues of the tendency of 1st timers to wind to tight, there is also the consideration of the removal in which the skin cools very rapidly and one can go into shock by the sudden drop in body temperature. Following it up with a duct-tape wrap just compounds the problems. You can also cut off the circulation with mummification which, in and of itself can leave bruises by bringing the blood to the surface of the skin in areas that you just can't hide. For the 1st timer, if you truly want to go the mummification route, I'd recommend something which is breathable, such as gauze or cheesecloth, both of which can be purchased in bulk quantities from most fabric stores and neither of which will raise your body temperature by being encased. Both allow your skin to breath and are much more flexible than plastic wrap, easier to use and easier to cut away quickly if you find that you get a panic attack from the inability to move.

Nylon cuffs are 'okay', but not as good as asylum restraints which are made of fabric, tough and durable and hold nuts pretty well, so should work on a submissive. These can be purchased at most medical supply stores, are very inexpensive, machine washable and the velcro makes for the quickest release of any pair of restraints I, personally, own. Even heavy or excessive pulling will leave little chance of marking. Above all, I would suggest researching the extrodinary variety of options available to you, choose the items which will meet the needs of the scene in which you want to participate and if you do end up getting marks, this is winter, so long sleeves and turtle necks are perfectably acceptable outerwear until you heal up. Have a blast and let us know how it all goes!

Celeste



mistoferin -> RE: In your bondage experience what leaves the least marks? (1/15/2006 7:59:34 PM)

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yes, yes, yes - those lined in lambwool are too delicious for words.


yes, yes...not only are they efficient...there is just something about the leather....the smell.....and the buckles....and watching them be put on that just adds to the whole experience. More expensive but DEFINITELY worth it!!!



sub4hire -> RE: In your bondage experience what leaves the least marks? (1/15/2006 8:03:49 PM)

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but not as good as asylum restraints which are made of fabric


Humanerestraint.com Sure they aren't the prettiest but they will last your lifetime so you can pass them on in your will to someone else.



newflowers -> RE: In your bondage experience what leaves the least marks? (1/15/2006 8:33:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

quote:

yes, yes, yes - those lined in lambwool are too delicious for words.


yes, yes...not only are they efficient...there is just something about the leather....the smell.....and the buckles....and watching them be put on that just adds to the whole experience. More expensive but DEFINITELY worth it!!!


So very true. the smell of the leather and wool, the buckles, the sound of the cuffs being out on wrists and ankles, the smooth feel of the leather combined with the softness of the lining, being so completely immobilized - it is a complete and total sensual and sensory experience. struggle all you want and there are no marks at all.

worth every penny and i cannot recommend highly enough.

newflowers



cailean -> RE: In your bondage experience what leaves the least marks? (1/15/2006 10:59:38 PM)

In reply to both newflowers and mistoferin the suggestion of leather restraints is an excellent one. The only down side to that is unfortunately i can't afford that right now. But i will be buying some in the future after i get a real job. Thank you both.



cailean -> RE: In your bondage experience what leaves the least marks? (1/15/2006 11:01:41 PM)

i am very interested in the use of bondage tape. There isn't that many adult stores in the area that i'm from but when i go to visit Master i'm sure He can take me somewhere and we'll try it out.



cailean -> RE: In your bondage experience what leaves the least marks? (1/15/2006 11:03:43 PM)

Thank you for the website. i will definately look into that option. Also i can live with something not being pretty as long as it works right. [;)]



Noah -> RE: In your bondage experience what leaves the least marks? (1/15/2006 11:40:27 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: cailean

Hello,

Master and i are beginning to start our exploration in bondage. We have a chance to try out bondage for the first time coming up in February. i'm posting this to find out what materials that you've had used on you that left the least amount of marks (bruises, burns). Also, what positions, including where you were bounded, left marks in places that could be covered up with clothing?

Thank you,
cailean


I hope you won't think I'm being facetious or otherwise willfully un helpful but for some people is it a small step from realizing that they would enjoy bondage to realizing that they would also enjoy what you might call mental bondage.

"Sit."

"Stay."

... or it can involve a pose or posture wioth strong associations to physical bondage, e.g. spread-eagled.

At first the "bound" person might be required only to endure pleasure without changing position. For some personality types there is an overwhelming urge to reciproate anything positive. This is why some people like being bound in the first place. It gives them permission to simply receive even just pleasure when the countervaling urge is not to fight or flee but to give back in kind. Once their bonds free from this "internal imperative" to reciprocate they can sometimes get lost in sensation and/or attention for teh first time.

Certain subjects report a deliciousness associated with being held in place--physically, sort of--by nothing more than his command, his will.

Well whether it appeals to you or not you hafta give it high marks for leaving no marks.



JohnWarren -> RE: In your bondage experience what leaves the least marks? (1/16/2006 5:15:51 AM)

"Deprive your skin of oxygen"? The skin doesn't breathe. I don't know where Fleming got that idea but it's almost as bad as the idea that diamonds don't burn.

I'm not sure how one can "cut off the circulation" with mummification unless one does a very very bad job of it since the material should be wide and flat. I've never seen a single bruise as the result of "pure" mummification (without internal or external bindings) Your mileage may vary of course.

The heat can be a problem as can several other factors. I'd expect someone to research any technique before trying it.

As for hospital restraints being cheap, that's not my experience. I've found them to be significantly more expensive than most other kinds.. to the point that I wouldn't carry them in the Diversified Services line.



mistoferin -> RE: In your bondage experience what leaves the least marks? (1/16/2006 5:45:23 AM)

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I hope you won't think I'm being facetious or otherwise willfully un helpful but for some people is it a small step from realizing that they would enjoy bondage to realizing that they would also enjoy what you might call mental bondage.


Noah,
I am glad you brought this up. While I love bondage and cuffs just fine, I am also an absolute mental bondage freak!!! I find that it tends to intensify what is going on because in order to override my body's natural impulse to move away or close my legs, whatever the case may be, I have to go really deep inside myself. I have to get right down to my core and get in touch with my submission. That mental choice to submit is much harder to do with stimuli vs. without, and when I can override the physical sensations and impulses....well for me it just makes the whole experience more fulfilling. It's much harder work on my end than being physically bound....but the rewards are mmmmmmmmm.



typesgirl -> RE: In your bondage experience what leaves the least marks? (1/16/2006 5:47:28 AM)

Master and i use silk and nylon ropes and even when repeatedly wrapped tightly around my wrists (like cuffs) i've never been left with a mark. And i can do some thrashing in the restraints too, hahaha and they've never left a burn. It's inexpensive and we can use it for any position we'd like.
hope you find what you're looking for! bondage is fantastic!
typsegirl



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