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Lockit -> RE: Marriage, BDSM and secrets.... (2/12/2009 3:14:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

Well perhaps men who attempt assault with knives deserve a knock on the head. :P

OP, I don't think it's anything to worry about. Your man has ballz (not balls... most guys have those and it's different [8|]) . It's kind of hot!



I agree... I think it is hot.  I would be feeling up those muscles... playing it big... and even thankful... he would be a very happy man! hehe




VampiresLair -> RE: Marriage, BDSM and secrets.... (2/12/2009 3:18:06 PM)

The first time I held a gun, ever, I had a 95% accuracy when we were target shooting. First time ever.

And I started martial arts training to hone the fighting skills I had naturally. I can not understand worrying that someone is able to fight for you. Not all of that has to be trained.

Also, you have been together for 5 years. What do you know what he could have been into before you met? He may not have thought it important to tell you he took some self defense courses however long ago. It didnt matter, so it never came up. Why look for problems where they shouldnt exist?

DV




Lynnxz -> RE: Marriage, BDSM and secrets.... (2/12/2009 3:22:10 PM)

VL you are awesome... I shot the OTHER guy's target. >:(

(I've gotten mucho better... I think) [:D]

OP should go take a self defense class to smack some heads. Or, failing that, go to a punk show. There's aways something going on there. [sm=buddies.gif][sm=discipline.gif][sm=slappy.gif][sm=injured.gif]




angelikaJ -> RE: Marriage, BDSM and secrets.... (2/12/2009 3:53:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyExcrutia

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ORIGINAL: MissEnchanted

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ORIGINAL: LadyExcrutia

My brother is still in the Army and he took us down to a firing range at a club and showed off  on  their shooting range. He just took his gun and like it was the wild west, drew it fast and emptied the clip on a target....then he taunted my husband into it and like he is sometimes, he took the gun and did the same, but he wasn't even looking at the 3 target silhouettes he shot at. Untilt hat day, and after almost 5 years together, he had never even said he knew how to fire a gun, let alone like that.

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Some people are natural born aces at certain things. Or, it was beginners luck, which happens.




Hmm..I need to learn how to do this editing thing without messing up my posts...anyways....my husband also defended me and beat up 3 street punks who tried to snatch my purse as we took a walk. He did it against 3 young and able men with knives. And he moved like he was one of the power rangers. I don't see how he could learn in the nearly 5 years we have together, to do this, but now I am worried and I see him work out to keep his physique, it makes me thinkt hat he isn't an athlete maitaining his level, but more like a butcher sharpening his culling blade, worries me much.


I missed the part that was edited out.

Have you asked him how he knew how to do that?

I am not trying to place any blame on you, but how much of your husband's life prior to knowing you did you invite him to share with you... was he in the military perhaps?

It is only a secret if you asked him about his life and he lied or misrepresented himself.
If you did not ask him... it might have been something he wished to put behind him.
It sounds as if you are feeling afraid of him...?




thetammyjo -> RE: Marriage, BDSM and secrets.... (2/12/2009 3:54:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyExcrutia

I just wanted to ask....what would your thoughts be when your husband, who submits to you and tells you everything, who does everything you say and loves to please you, living for it looking for your approval and happiness for years, and whom you think you know perfectly, suddenly shows an skill he didn't have nor learned while at your side, and doesn't give you a credible explanation for it?



This would entirely depend upon the degree to which we both agreed to share information. Note the words "we both agreed" not "I assumed" or "I demanded" or "I wanted".

If you didn't make such agreements now might be the time to renegotiate these things.




MistressAinCT -> RE: Marriage, BDSM and secrets.... (2/12/2009 4:37:26 PM)

Adrenaline? Testosterone? Fight or Flight?  Why is it a skill and not just the need to protect you? 

Mothers have been known to lift cars off of their children in a high-emergency situation. 

If he does it again, THEN you should worry!




LadyExcrutia -> RE: Marriage, BDSM and secrets.... (2/12/2009 5:56:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

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ORIGINAL: LadyExcrutia

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ORIGINAL: MissEnchanted

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ORIGINAL: LadyExcrutia

My brother is still in the Army and he took us down to a firing range at a club and showed off  on  their shooting range. He just took his gun and like it was the wild west, drew it fast and emptied the clip on a target....then he taunted my husband into it and like he is sometimes, he took the gun and did the same, but he wasn't even looking at the 3 target silhouettes he shot at. Untilt hat day, and after almost 5 years together, he had never even said he knew how to fire a gun, let alone like that.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Some people are natural born aces at certain things. Or, it was beginners luck, which happens.




Hmm..I need to learn how to do this editing thing without messing up my posts...anyways....my husband also defended me and beat up 3 street punks who tried to snatch my purse as we took a walk. He did it against 3 young and able men with knives. And he moved like he was one of the power rangers. I don't see how he could learn in the nearly 5 years we have together, to do this, but now I am worried and I see him work out to keep his physique, it makes me thinkt hat he isn't an athlete maitaining his level, but more like a butcher sharpening his culling blade, worries me much.


I missed the part that was edited out.

Have you asked him how he knew how to do that?

I am not trying to place any blame on you, but how much of your husband's life prior to knowing you did you invite him to share with you... was he in the military perhaps?

It is only a secret if you asked him about his life and he lied or misrepresented himself.
If you did not ask him... it might have been something he wished to put behind him.
It sounds as if you are feeling afraid of him...?


Well....I am not. I had a bad experience with a problem due to the death of my father when we married and he truly stood by me for better and for much, much worse. I know for a fact he is uncapable of hurting me, or any woman for that matter, I mean truly incapable.

I asked him how did he do that, and he just said that it's science. Gave me a long talk on biomechanics and human anatomy and physiology and neuromotor psychology and stuff I needed 3 hours and half his books to understand with my niece's dolls and some drawings. He just confused me more because he said "it's normal in my country for a man to know hwo to do this and protect his wife" and well, I did recall that a friend of mine once told me that men from his country were dangerous because they are all trained for war but I regarded it as simple ignorant racism or bigotry against him and nothing more as some display towards Latinos, even if we are just a little bit away from the border.

It's just that I worry because he's always been the type of man who keeps to himself his pain, his doubts, his fears and it is not because we lack communication, it's because he just "doesn't want to bother me for nothing" and doesn't bring anything up or comment further on something.

I don't know much about his life before he came here and started working, his life isn't a secret for me because he evades my questions or lies on the answers, it's because I've  never had the need to ask and I was happy with him for who he was and not what he did or had done, I just don't want anything fromt he past I don't know about come and screw up the present we enjoy and the future we want for our relationship and it was already very hard to make him enter the lifestyle and then to teach him basic things such as that it was ok to say a safeword or tone down the play with a yellow or red and we had a big list of mistakes we made, well, that I made for that and scars to show for it which add to the ones he already had from an accident he suffered before coming here so I worry.





LadyExcrutia -> RE: Marriage, BDSM and secrets.... (2/12/2009 6:09:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

Well perhaps men who attempt assault with knives deserve a knock on the head. :P

OP, I don't think it's anything to worry about. Your man has ballz (not balls... most guys have those and it's different [8|]) . It's kind of hot!



I agree... I think it is hot.  I would be feeling up those muscles... playing it big... and even thankful... he would be a very happy man! hehe


He already is. I must say, one thing I love about the way he plays is how he can be so communicative with his body....he tenses his muscles, shifting, flexing them, in positions that almost look like those painting from old European drawings and paintings about martyrs and such that I see at the church he visits, a catholic one, and it's as if I feel more and more into the scene.

The downsize of his size, is that most people think that I married him for his body, and most even gossipped that he was inf act a bodyguard or personal trainer I feel in love with, given the age difference. Especially because even before I told him about BDSM, as he was fresh out of the box in our country, he already pampered me. In shoe stores, he used to kneel and remove my shoe, massage my foot and then slide in the shoe I wanted to try on and even tie its straps for me, so you can imagine how people used to look at us at first. But then again, I love it still. Plus he makes wonderful coffee, using cinnamon, honey and  chocolate chips or cubes and vanilla cream....hmmmm...for that, I truly agree his country makes the best coffee and has the best recipes, LOL




LadyExcrutia -> RE: Marriage, BDSM and secrets.... (2/12/2009 6:17:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: VampiresLair

The first time I held a gun, ever, I had a 95% accuracy when we were target shooting. First time ever.

And I started martial arts training to hone the fighting skills I had naturally. I can not understand worrying that someone is able to fight for you. Not all of that has to be trained.

Also, you have been together for 5 years. What do you know what he could have been into before you met? He may not have thought it important to tell you he took some self defense courses however long ago. It didnt matter, so it never came up. Why look for problems where they shouldnt exist?

DV



Maybe you are right, but I am so happy now, I don't want anything I don't know about and can't prepare against to ruin it all for me and him.

By the way, looking at your profile, I was a little bit shocked about the pics. It is as if I saw us in a mirror on some ways. My husband may be big but his eyes, his expression is the same as your boi, he's kind of a lion in the power his looks emanate but a puppy in my power, and I feel as if I was holding a grizzly''s leash and yet it doesn't make me feel odd, makes me feel very well.

My husband only finds comfort in me and I looked at your pictures and saw the same in them. I truly wish you good luck for you have something special too and I guess you can help me much to look past any problem or prevent them as well.




chezzy71 -> RE: Marriage, BDSM and secrets.... (2/12/2009 8:54:52 PM)

Mistress Cat has outed me..i have had a crush on Ina for years..smiles




ShaktiSama -> RE: Marriage, BDSM and secrets.... (2/13/2009 11:49:33 AM)

My grandfather didn't tell me that he had served in World War II until I was sixteen years old--and even then I only found out because it came up as part of an anecdote about his father's candy store in Brooklyn.

"I used to put out the new magazines and newspapers at the store every day, and I would read them all. I did this from age six until I turned nineteen."

"Why did you stop then?"

"Because I was drafted."

Some men do not like to talk about military experience or training, and many, many men who serve in the military feel a strong need to submit to women in their personal lives. Perhaps this is one of those cases.




MsDDom -> RE: Marriage, BDSM and secrets.... (2/13/2009 12:07:38 PM)

LadyExcrutia...

i have read all ur entries and it just seems that u may need to talk to him again...and again if needed to calm ur fears.
i read what u stated about his response being "the science"...it may have been...the "maleness" if u will in him...and perhaps that was the motivator to get him pumped and start working out. he is protecting u...like someone said earlier...be very proud of that.

[my 2 coins]




Steponme73 -> RE: Marriage, BDSM and secrets.... (2/13/2009 4:00:19 PM)

Well, at least the skill he has is useful.  And it sounds like he is good at.  Of course in Tucumcari, there probably isn't alot of call for people who can draw fast and shoot.   But, he has the skill.  Don't hold that against him.  It is not like he was out on the town!




Steponme73 -> RE: Marriage, BDSM and secrets.... (2/13/2009 4:08:59 PM)

Ooops! I posted twice




beeble -> RE: Marriage, BDSM and secrets.... (2/13/2009 4:15:59 PM)

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Steponme73 wrote:
According to your profile [...]

Whose profile?

beeble.




LadyExcrutia -> RE: Marriage, BDSM and secrets.... (2/14/2009 1:18:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

My grandfather didn't tell me that he had served in World War II until I was sixteen years old--and even then I only found out because it came up as part of an anecdote about his father's candy store in Brooklyn.

"I used to put out the new magazines and newspapers at the store every day, and I would read them all. I did this from age six until I turned nineteen."

"Why did you stop then?"

"Because I was drafted."

Some men do not like to talk about military experience or training, and many, many men who serve in the military feel a strong need to submit to women in their personal lives. Perhaps this is one of those cases.


Well Shakti....I think you are right. But I didn't know he ever served in the military. A friend of mine who knows his country once told me that pretty much all males have sevred in their army for 2 years, as it is a mandatory requirement to work or get higher education or something, and the draft is very hard to evade unless he was in a wheelchair and he couldn't fire a gun sitting.....

Now..one thing has been on my mind these past days. When I put on a uniform I love, a gift from a mentor in BDSM from years ago, a "Nazi-styled" uniform (let me say this very clearly: I hate racism and nazis and anything of the sort), put him on the table and begin an "interrogation", he has a different look in him. Not his eyes or face, his body, it's as if it glowed with a different light, as if he emitted a different vibe and smell even his voice changes, and I fed off on his fear, thinking it was his best arousal, when in truth it now seems to me as if he felt real fear of me and it kills me now.....

I wonder....I can't really talk to my family much and my old "friends" can't be of use, and there are no kink-aware professionals to help me but....I sometimes feel like something really bad happened to him, still hurts him and I am being too dumb and blind to see I keep stepping on a broken toe...




stella41b -> RE: Marriage, BDSM and secrets.... (2/14/2009 1:32:58 PM)

Has he started wearing his underpants over his trousers?




LadyMedusa -> RE: Marriage, BDSM and secrets.... (2/14/2009 1:51:24 PM)

LOL, believe me, it does not take learning a few times to get a new skill! I can shoot almost any gun handed to me, and i have yet to have ever used the wepon. It is just a skill I have.. I balance it, site it, and shoot... the first time I shot a 357 at 10 targets, I hit 8. My husband once told his Marines "Don't make me bring my wife down here and show y'all how to shoot!"




ShaktiSama -> RE: Marriage, BDSM and secrets.... (2/14/2009 2:36:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyExcrutia

Now..one thing has been on my mind these past days. When I put on a uniform I love, a gift from a mentor in BDSM from years ago, a "Nazi-styled" uniform (let me say this very clearly: I hate racism and nazis and anything of the sort), put him on the table and begin an "interrogation", he has a different look in him. Not his eyes or face, his body, it's as if it glowed with a different light, as if he emitted a different vibe and smell even his voice changes, and I fed off on his fear, thinking it was his best arousal, when in truth it now seems to me as if he felt real fear of me and it kills me now.....

I wonder....I can't really talk to my family much and my old "friends" can't be of use, and there are no kink-aware professionals to help me but....I sometimes feel like something really bad happened to him, still hurts him and I am being too dumb and blind to see I keep stepping on a broken toe...


All I can say is this: the love, compassion and empathy you feel for your submissive is the only possible antidote that exists for the pain and the horror that a Nazi uniform represents in real life. If your man chooses to relive a painful experience in some way with you, and surrender to you through a memory of real fear, it may be that he sees some value in the game that you initially did not know about.

Sometimes BDSM can be a healing thing. I have known some subs who played out bad experiences from their pasts in play. The idea behind it was that every repetition of the old bad experience in the form of a game allows the former victim to live it out with a new and much better outcome. It heals up some of the damage.

No guarantee that's how it works in this case, I am just saying it is possible.






LadyExcrutia -> RE: Marriage, BDSM and secrets.... (2/15/2009 3:21:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama


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ORIGINAL: LadyExcrutia

Now..one thing has been on my mind these past days. When I put on a uniform I love, a gift from a mentor in BDSM from years ago, a "Nazi-styled" uniform (let me say this very clearly: I hate racism and nazis and anything of the sort), put him on the table and begin an "interrogation", he has a different look in him. Not his eyes or face, his body, it's as if it glowed with a different light, as if he emitted a different vibe and smell even his voice changes, and I fed off on his fear, thinking it was his best arousal, when in truth it now seems to me as if he felt real fear of me and it kills me now.....

I wonder....I can't really talk to my family much and my old "friends" can't be of use, and there are no kink-aware professionals to help me but....I sometimes feel like something really bad happened to him, still hurts him and I am being too dumb and blind to see I keep stepping on a broken toe...


All I can say is this: the love, compassion and empathy you feel for your submissive is the only possible antidote that exists for the pain and the horror that a Nazi uniform represents in real life. If your man chooses to relive a painful experience in some way with you, and surrender to you through a memory of real fear, it may be that he sees some value in the game that you initially did not know about.

Sometimes BDSM can be a healing thing. I have known some subs who played out bad experiences from their pasts in play. The idea behind it was that every repetition of the old bad experience in the form of a game allows the former victim to live it out with a new and much better outcome. It heals up some of the damage.

No guarantee that's how it works in this case, I am just saying it is possible.





Well...the nazi uniform is MY idea. He was Vanilla to the core before BDSM, he still amazes me by getting up at 5am to pray for us as the sun rises. And I don't think he had anything to like or know aboutt he Nazi uniform in South America just as it won't mean much for me to see him dressed up as an indian from colonial times in the amazon.

Perhaps you are right about him having a bad experience, but I doubt now I am being of any help to him by doing so. I think maybe I can talk to him and force some answers out, or seek counselling but I just feel odd doing so because life's happy so far for me except for that.....

By the way.....St Valentine was quite a day for me. I must say it makes my heart explode when I wake up to find someone created a path of candles and rose petals to the table and has served me breakfast even better than eevry day and has my hot tub ready for me and prepares for a great massage. I only had to exercise myself enough to push a button on the remote, as he even lifted it for me. What a day. I am now wondering if my gift was good enough for him. As he is into engineering and metallurgy, he made a very interesting gift for me himself, a ring made of Berillum which he says is the metal they use in space crafts, because as he says "I'll love you until the last star burns out and an eternity afterwards" and well, I just become a sucker for those words..LOL





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