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RE: Cyberstalking and BDSM - 2/17/2009 12:31:56 AM

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Did you read recently how a group of these script kiddies focus on individuals on either My Space or Face Book (they also target a lot of other sites) and then make it 'their business' to ruin that person's life. There was a lady that had made a comment on her profile (I don't know the full facts) and one of the group members disliked it - to the point they made her their next 'project', which included her friends, her family members, even her employers (I should have said, her now 'ex' employers). Through her Face Book details they gained basic birthdate/town details, plus her full name, with that they gained her social security details and they wrought havoc on her world to the extent she lost many friends (whomever were associated with her were also targeted). So it isn't just a case of "Whoever would believe strangers over me isn't worth knowing". Poeple are associating cyber stalking in its most 'benign' form.

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If they know computer's... how to do the bad stuff... anyone can be vulnerable. lol

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RE: Cyberstalking and BDSM - 2/17/2009 10:21:23 AM

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I agree with the comments that I am better off not in a relationship where my Master would believe lies over me. However, the point of the original post was not to complain or whine but to warn others that there are cyberstalkers right here on CM and how to deal with it.

If all of the stalkers emails would have been blocked immediately after he was found to be only a troublemaker than there are many lives that would not have been affected in the ripple effect. It appears that the original target was two people, Master and slave. He thought that by discrediting the Master that the slave would come to him. It affected every sub and slave the Master had and made him lose all but the slave that was wanted by the stalker. People on friends lists of all involved were contacted getting them involved in the drama. Outside email addresses were foolishly given out. I've had to cancel two Yahoo accounts since then, had started a new CM account and had to leave again, and have received another email in the one account I simply cannot close. At least six people ended up being directly involved (the base poly family which is now completely scattered). I am scared when I hear car doors at night because I know that some of the people involved were too ignorant of how to handle the situation that they couldn't keep their mouths shut and don't know if my address was somehow leaked. I will be leaving the state for a few weeks just to get back some peace of mind. I no longer know who I can trust and who - knowingly or unknowingly - added to this problem.

It is great fun to joke about how nice it would be to have a stalker, to have someone that fixated on your life. This evil man orchestrated events which turned my life upside down and the only thing that I ever did to harm him was to serve my Master faithfully. I don't want anyone else to ever get set up for the same type of failure. I have joked about this situation being so bizarre that it would make a good Movie of the Week, but the fact is that I got framed by people who I do not know and whom I've never hurt. If it could happen to me it could easily happen to someone else, and if this post can protect anyone that is my deepest wish.

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RE: Cyberstalking and BDSM - 2/17/2009 1:28:33 PM

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As an update, I just read about a case on the Masters board that was similar to mine. A man also from my state (Michigan) sent out a mass email saying that a particular sub was collared to him. The Dom she was about to meet for the first time dumped her when he saw it assuming that she had been lying to him. These stalkers are vicious and don't care whose lives they mess up - they may want the woman to themselves or may just enjoy the power to make a mess out of things. It is such an incredible shame that it is the innocent that end up getting hurt the worst.

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RE: Cyberstalking and BDSM - 2/17/2009 7:24:41 PM

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I don't know why you feel you were released because of what the cyberstalker did, but that isn't the way it works. I'd look to see what you did wrong, not find a circumstantial excuse.

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RE: Cyberstalking and BDSM - 2/18/2009 12:15:20 AM

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ORIGINAL: chamberqueen
I no longer know who I can trust and who - knowingly or unknowingly - added to this problem.

And in there lies the answer to your question, Chamberqueen. A very embittered ex of mine whom I came to find out was a 'script kiddy' decided to hack into my yahoo/msn accounts and wreak havoc by sending people I had taken years to formulate friendships with messages, links to vile images, etc... A lot of those people I knew offline and after a while, when I became persona non grata I naturally inquired as to the problem, the damage had already been done and irreparable. The person that did that didn't spam my then friends b/c that would have been too obvious, he knew enough of my prose pattern to engage in online conversations as me with some of those people and over a duration of months. It is one thing to listen to hearsay, but something else when it is perceived to be coming directly from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

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ORIGINAL: chamberqueenIt is great fun to joke about how nice it would be to have a stalker, to have someone that fixated on your life.

I find zero humour in either variant of malicious behaviour.

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ORIGINAL: chamberqueenThis evil man orchestrated events which turned my life upside down and the only thing that I ever did to harm him was to serve my Master faithfully. I don't want anyone else to ever get set up for the same type of failure. I have joked about this situation being so bizarre that it would make a good Movie of the Week, but the fact is that I got framed by people who I do not know and whom I've never hurt. If it could happen to me it could easily happen to someone else, and if this post can protect anyone that is my deepest wish.

In your situation, chamberqueen, the answer to your question lies in the first quote I posted above. It won't alter the outcome and you won't receive vindication.

Your story cannot protect anyone, the only way people can help protect themselves online is to become better informed regarding the information about themselves they put 'out there', added security steps they can take etc... The internet was one of the world's greatest inventions by man, knowledge is power - whether you are virtuous or otherwise.

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RE: Cyberstalking and BDSM - 2/18/2009 6:12:25 AM

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Thank you, MissMorrigan. I was just hoping that by sharing what had happened that it might open the eyes of others to a very real danger. When I read on another board about something similar happening to someone else it made me feel that it was all the more imperative that people understand that it is a problem right here within the CM community.

I know that nothing will change for my situation. Even if my former Master were to learn the truth about how I was framed I can now see that he would have released me anyway because he fell in love with one of his slaves, something he didn't think he would ever do, and as well as I served him he dismissed all others under him for her. I know in my heart that my actions were always pure, and God knows that. At least I have the solace that I acted in integrity. I hold no anger towards my former Master - he was given overwhelming "evidence" that I was trying to hurt him and his beloved slave. If anything, I felt sorry for him because he must have felt incredibly hurt by one that he "trusted". I just hoped that out of my pain I might be able to reach out and help others not to fall prey to the same type of situation.

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RE: Cyberstalking and BDSM - 2/18/2009 6:43:05 PM

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sadly, there unfortunately is such a thing as cyber-stalking. I generally tend to ignore them, however, if I think they are going to be a problem, I will put their profile on ignore. (referring to collarme profiles) Now, on another site I am on, I will block them from contacting Me if I think they are going to be too bothersome.

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RE: Cyberstalking and BDSM - 2/20/2009 2:54:21 PM

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It's been my experience that stalkers of all sorts tend to look for more vulnerable people. Something that is always smart to remember when dealing with people either online or off.

Nope, I had a stalker who thought dominant women are an abomination and need to be punished, he made my life living hell for several years.

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