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RE: are there any cd or tg message boards? - 2/15/2006 7:21:05 PM   
MstrssPassion


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I personally do not use the term 'shemale'. I hope you realize that the usage was to describe the mindset of those that are set on a path to fulfill a fetish experience.

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RE: are there any cd or tg message boards? - 2/16/2006 7:23:36 AM   
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thank you for clearing that up mstrsspassion....from your post i thought that but wasnt sure....we are happy that you hve thrown your hat in with us and are hoping forthe best

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RE: are there any cd or tg message boards? - 2/19/2006 7:39:03 AM   
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I have been very busy this last week. My company is exhibiting at a home & garden show, so I am working very long hours. I recall one poster on this thread mentioning that they were going to contact a mod about the suggestion of starting a TG forum. What became of that?

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RE: are there any cd or tg message boards? - 2/19/2006 3:24:55 PM   
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Very dear Mistress Passion, respectfully, please

Thank You for discussing with us. i'm the one who contacted the Mod, via
Her profile's email sending box. As to right now, i din't have any news
back. i don't want to be anoying by writing back again.

As for the term "shemales" i have understand Your vision or meaning. i'm the one who mis-interprated and i apologies.

Hope that every girl is fine. Here in Montreal, we have a support group
that organise every year a tw0 (2) Trans-Pride week end at the end of
april. It resumes in a 2 days inside work-shops and conferences, at a local
university. On the 29th or 30th, in the evening, the event closed up by a
nice entertaimnent evening at the Montreal Premier and oldest Cabaret
night club called Cabaret Cleo (for the Cleopatra's) for transvestites and transsexuals. We are actually all working hard in fund raisings activities
of all kind. It keeps me busy (i'm the secretary..) fair well and good.

I will post-up all the necessary informations for all of us, even if long dis- tance separates us from live get together.

Thank You all. sub. affectionate kisses

misspiggie

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RE: are there any cd or tg message boards? - 2/20/2006 5:08:35 AM   
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I was hoping that the "powers that be" here would be kind enough to consider adding a group. I have ventured many forums over the years & this one seems to closely moderate in regards to stopping the trash & flame wars from spreading.

I'm also quite sure they would rather keep this particular community of folks right here on their site as opposed to us trailing off to others sites.
(hint-hint)






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RE: are there any cd or tg message boards? - 2/20/2006 5:53:50 AM   
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im sure you are right passion....i dont think they would want to lose all the traffic they get on the boards.... appaerntly there is a support groupp here in south dakota abou an hr from me that im thinking about going to visit and maybe become a memeber....well i hope everything is well for everyone else and have a good day


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RE: are there any cd or tg message boards? - 2/20/2006 6:55:21 AM   
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Hello again dear Ladies,

i'm back with the website reference concerning our Pride Day event
that we have every year, end of April or beginning of May (depends
if the 3rd of May falls on a saturday or not).

Make sure you click well on ENTER... on your right hand side.

So it is: www.cttq.org

Thank You all and be good.

friendly yours, misspiggie

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RE: are there any cd or tg message boards? - 2/20/2006 3:26:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: misspiggie
Make sure you click well on ENTER... on your right hand side.


Bowling??
Sure why not - its for a good cause, right?

Could I ask a question regarding the name of your organization: La Coalition des Transsexuel(le)s et Transsexué(e)s du Québec?
It appears (regrettably I do not speak French) that there are two words for transsexual - why would that be?

P.S.
Thank you for the kind creaturely wish. I have learned that some pets don't enjoy being petted.



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RE: are there any cd or tg message boards? - 2/20/2006 4:18:30 PM   
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dear onceburned,

thank you for your interest. When entering the site, there is a clic press for
english (in brow square box) on your right hand side.

Now two (2) words; the Coalition includes both PRE-OP and POST-OP per- sons..

Transsexuel(le)s (or transsexual in english) is for PRE-OP, which means not
having had the full operation of a complete sex change.
As for Transsexué(e)s is for POST-OP. These persons have had the full sex change done... (POST-OPerated - AFTER surgery.

It usually, in average, about 2 to 3 years of a steady special medical pro-
grams to follow up. That includes a (1) full year LIVING & WORKING as a woman in society (and beleive me, it's easy) BEFORE starting hormono- therapy (feminine hormones intakes). We have to PROOVE ourselves to the medical team, we have to convinced them..!!!

Note that it's a different path from one person's story, to another. No two
Trans are completely alike. Some will choose not to get surgery and live
half-man, half-woman. The medical programs can also be different from
one hospital to another, from one province to another. I beleive that in
the States or some of them, it's much more strict regarding medical in-
vestigations and assesments.

The bottom lines is; it's to be YOURSELF AND HAPPY within the IDENTITY
that You choose TO LIVE..

A majority of post-ups, once fully legaly recognised as Women, will have
the tendency to completely change their social lives, by separating from the pre-ops.

The pre-ops needs more (than maybe a full medical team) the presence of post-ops during their TRANSitions. The word transition means (among dif- ferent definitions..) passing from one to another.

thank you

misspiggie

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RE: are there any cd or tg message boards? - 2/22/2006 4:36:50 PM   
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It seems that there may be many differences between the Two countries. In the states, it is not so easy to transition on the job. Some companies are coming around & are more open minded, but sadly many people are fired or made to feel so uncomfortable that they choose to leave. The thought of one losing their livelihood is stressful enough. My girl was fortunate enough to work with a company that accepted here transition & actually came to her for advice on how to handle it internally with other employees & such. Early on some of the women put up a fuss about her use of the women's restroom, but that was handled (but it took a few threats of bringing in the ACLU, a lawsuit & pointing out precedents of a case that ruled in favor of a transsexual teacher in school who was able to use the target sex bathrooms, so long as a bathroom was provided with the individual who had an issue with it)

It is apparent that many people are simply ignorant as to the truth about transsexuals. The old saying goes, people fear what differs from them. Not enough education is available to the masses. With the internet they only get a grossly distorted view as to what transgendered people are like & who they are. Transgendered persons & those who are either family or involved with them are still threatened or even worse, killed because of their connection. Just look at this site:

http://www.rememberingourdead.org/
(yeah, I know, I've posted it before)

Much of this is described in another site:(home page http://transsexual.org/)

http://transsexual.org/What.html

excerpt: There is tremendous social bigotry -and often outright violence- expressed towards the transsexual, and this often makes the life of the transsexual very difficult. Some transsexuals who have completely successful in transition to the appropriate sex therefore choose varying degrees of secrecy about their state and history. Other transsexuals never succeed in transforming physically to the point of being undetectable as transsexuals, and tend to suffer accordingly.

Transsexuals suffer many hurdles to achieve their required correction of the error of their birth. They must face society, the medical establishment, the common loss of all family and friends, the cost of treatment, the extreme difficulty of the required 'half-way' phase of transition which may last up to two years, and the inner turmoil of self-doubt and conditioned self loathing of their condition. It has been estimated (in 1981) that about 50% do not survive the malady, ending up dead by the age of 30, usually by their own hand. Almost all of this morbidity is attributed to the additional burden caused by the violent nonacceptance of society, the rejection of family and friends, and the inability to find decent care.

misspiggie, when you said this: That includes a (1) full year LIVING & WORKING as a woman in society (and believe me, it's easy) I'm assuming that Canada, or at least your area is much more open minded & accepting of transsexuals.

quote:

Note that it's a different path from one person's story, to another. No two Trans are completely alike. Some will choose not to get surgery and live half-man, half-woman. The medical programs can also be different from one hospital to another, from one province to another. I believe that in the States or some of them, it's much more strict regarding medical in- vestigations and assesments.


There are varying degrees of transsexualism/transgenderism. A crossdresser may not wish to change their gender. A transsexual may not have the same level of intensity in their desire to change as the next person. Many do not have the financial means to change. So many different scenarios are involved with this. Also there is a commonality between transsexuals & gay & lesbian population. Often a person tries to exist in a lifestyle that is considered accepted or normal. They marry, have children, go to work & pay bills... often later in life they cannot hide from these strong inner feelings so they "come-out" late. This can be rather upsetting for the whole family, not just the individual.

I'm hopeful that a day will come when this is not something people feel they have to hide. That they will be able to find support early in life so that they can have a chance to live a happy life. The mortality rate is extremely high for many. Mostly because of self destruction due to all of these obstacles & oppositions to their being who they are, not who they just woke up one day & decided to be. (I can think of many more ways to have lives turned upside down)

From my many long talks with my partner & with many other transsexuals I have known in my life, I have found some common factors that apply to my being who I am... a dominant woman, it just took me a lot longer to find out what the heck I was. The transsexual seems to know from an early age, hey I supposed to be a girl, not a boy (or visa versa) I should be in a dress, not a jacket & tie. With my difference... I had no idea why I thought differently than others. I had no one to talk to about these thoughts & images in my head. Even, when I tried to talk about it, I would have to hurry up & save face by concluding the conversation with... yeah, I was just messing with you!

Tomorrow night my partner is taking over a group that we have both been active with for some time now. We will be meeting every other Thursday to offer support & advice or just listen to other trans persons.

The best thing that can be done is help one person at a time & hope that this idea will catch on in many other communities.

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RE: are there any cd or tg message boards? - 2/23/2006 4:09:35 PM   
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Hello again to everyone,
Ms. Passion & Danni

i had lost track of the pages for a while, as there were moved into
another section, before this one, off topics...

Thank You Ms. Passion for having made such a very good following
to my previous post. i have made a mistake in the sentence; "living
one full year all the time as a woman with a job (and beleive me it
is easy.." Well, i've should have write "it's NOT easy..". The women's
washrooms is inded, a very hot issue by the way.

i've also forgot about facial electrolisis (beard removal) which is better to complete if possible, BEFORE hormones intake.. i'm ending by another
fact which is, no matter HOW very extremely well passable a girl can be
for the person facing us (knowing who we are), in their head we REMAIN MEN.. and at times they will even refere as "he" and "his".. kinf of aotoma-
tically when speaking. Surely, their is some other things that dosen't come to my mind right now.

As far as i am concerned, i'm living full time since 11 years now and i am
TRULY HAPPY.. i'm ME.. i KNOW WHO I AM..!

Thank You,

misspiggie

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RE: are there any cd or tg message boards? - 2/23/2006 5:12:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: misspiggie
i have made a mistake in the sentence; "living
one full year all the time as a woman with a job (and beleive me it
is easy.." Well, i've should have write "it's NOT easy..". The women's
washrooms is inded, a very hot issue by the way.


I think transitioning from one sex to the other would be very,very difficult, for all the reasons you and MstrssPassion have spelled out.

quote:

i've also forgot about facial electrolisis (beard removal) which is better to complete if possible, BEFORE hormones intake


Why would that be? Wouldn't female hormones make less of a beard, so removal would be quicker?

quote:

As far as i am concerned, i'm living full time since 11 years now and i am
TRULY HAPPY.. i'm ME.. i KNOW WHO I AM..!


Congratulations! Your messages show you to be a confident and upbeat woman. I am glad you joined us here and hope you make yourself comfortable.

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RE: are there any cd or tg message boards? - 2/24/2006 3:12:09 AM   
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dear onceburned,

feminine hormones (i intake two kinds) have absolute no effect what so
ever on facial hairs, beard removal. Again, no two person's body anotomy
are completely alike, but for everyone, (even for someone who dosen't ha-
ve much beard), electrolosis by needle or laser (now in our days) is a must.

However, hormones weakens the hairs and softens the skin. Hormones in- takes might help a little for easier beard removal, but it's makes it very, very painful to endure..

On the other hand, hormones (estrogene) helps a lot for head hairs growth
in general. In my case it din't produced any positive change. In the begin-
nig i had to wear a wig.

Thank You.

misspiggie

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RE: are there any cd or tg message boards? - 2/24/2006 4:31:32 AM   
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My Partner, Becca didn't start laser until this last summer. She was one of those that actually lost a large amount of body hair & facial hair. The laser is only for a few pesky areas in the goatee area & well... down south (that part hasn't started yet). She will only have a small amount of electro.

From what she has told me, this would not have been necessary at one point. When she first started her transition she lost everything & rarely felt a need to shave. Her parents never liked the idea of her transition, so they made a deal with her. Stop the process for one year & continue talking with the doctors. If after a year, things haven't changed we will accept your choice. Well this ended up being a lie. When she continued her transition, the areas she is having trouble with now simply refused to go away.

(BTW... our first meeting went really well last night. Several people showed up & we had a great talk. We were suprised to see so many people since this is the first real Gender Society meeting in a couple of months & the first time it was held on a 3rd Thursday in a very long time. We will be meeting every other Thursday from now on & the center will put some work on the homepage after PrideFest to help promote the group.)

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