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Graduating and Scared - 2/18/2009 6:00:10 AM   
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So I'm graduating in about three months. I've applied for grad schools in creative writing (I like to write about Sadomasochistic relationships), but they're extremely difficult to get into.

So, I have to find some kind of plan in case I don't get in, and I have no ideas at all of what else I would like to do. I do imagine myself writing about scene life, maybe dungeon play, is there feasible work in that (for a guy; obviously there is for women).

If not, does anybody have any ideas. Or if you're panicking too feel free to hop in.

I've heard the economy is in the crapper.
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RE: Graduating and Scared - 2/18/2009 6:16:37 AM   
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So I'm graduating in about three months. I've applied for grad schools in creative writing (I like to write about Sadomasochistic relationships), but they're extremely difficult to get into.

So, I have to find some kind of plan in case I don't get in, and I have no ideas at all of what else I would like to do. I do imagine myself writing about scene life, maybe dungeon play, is there feasible work in that (for a guy; obviously there is for women).

If not, does anybody have any ideas. Or if you're panicking too feel free to hop in.

I've heard the economy is in the crapper.


You "heard right"...the economy is not doing to well at the moment and the job prospects for the class of 2009 are not very bright short-term.  The one thing you have that even a poor economy can't take away is your knowledge gained in school.  Going for an advanced degree is probably the best way to spend the next two years if you can get into a school of choice, and can afford to spend the time.
In the interim, you might start by doing something that doesn't cost much.  Maybe start a blog and join the thousands of others out there. It might or might not be profitable but it could be a good place to hone your creative writing skills..Write about everything and anything that interests you...study the phrases and words people use to try to get a "reaction"...things you can use in your own style of writing possibly.

The internet is a treasure trove for people interested in "creative writing"...some of the best stringing of sets of words and phrases can be found on some chat venues...and you might also learn something about human psychology...and what it takes to motivate people to be interested in your writings.

Good luck...you have no where to go but up!!

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RE: Graduating and Scared - 2/18/2009 6:19:19 AM   
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For one, don't make multiple threads on the same topic.

Two, you aren't going to realistically be able to pull off a career writing erotica.


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RE: Graduating and Scared - 2/18/2009 6:57:39 AM   
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Three, have a plan B, C, D.................etc etc.

As a  person that does hiring I can tell you that
A) your degree will mean much less than your work ethic.
B) the work you find will very likely have very little to do with your degree.
C) be willing to work your way up.


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RE: Graduating and Scared - 2/18/2009 7:02:02 AM   
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quote:

I've heard the economy is in the crapper.


You identified a cause right there. You are graduating college in three months and just "heard" about the economy?

You're coming from the same source as those presently running the government; academic theory and no practical knowledge or skill to survive, let alone thrive, in the real world. I expect you made very little contribution to your 'education' or you would have "heard" about the economy sooner and perhaps had something know as a 'plan' after the graduation party.

College is a great source of unrealistic, theoretical knowledge. Since you seem to think you can't 'do', I suggest you take the same route as your schools purveyors of knowledge - teach. You'll be insulated from reality, be part of a sacred order of employment - teacher's unions; and help perpetuate the world you are graduating into.

Good luck and congratulations on completing your indoctrination.

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RE: Graduating and Scared - 2/18/2009 7:15:03 AM   
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You're living in dream world. You should be hitting the pavement to look for a real job.

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RE: Graduating and Scared - 2/18/2009 7:35:43 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jmv0405

So I'm graduating in about three months. I've applied for grad schools in creative writing (I like to write about Sadomasochistic relationships), but they're extremely difficult to get into.

So, I have to find some kind of plan in case I don't get in, and I have no ideas at all of what else I would like to do. I do imagine myself writing about scene life, maybe dungeon play, is there feasible work in that (for a guy; obviously there is for women).

If not, does anybody have any ideas. Or if you're panicking too feel free to hop in.

I've heard the economy is in the crapper.


I think panic is the worst thing for the psyche.  I suggest focusing your engery on positive thoughts and a strong belief in yourself.  Concentrate on moving towards what you want, instead of planning for a possible failure.

I'm not sure about a lucrative career in erotic writing,  but I would think there are other areas in which you can excell by applying your writing skills.

Best of luck in your endeavors, whatever path you choose.

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RE: Graduating and Scared - 2/18/2009 8:39:24 AM   
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Unfortunately the demand, and the distribution vehicle for kinky writing does not look promising. But you can write, and there are plenty of other things to write. What you do for work is one thing, and if you take a nom de plume for the kinky stuff you might actually make a few bucks eventually, and that assumes your writing is good. I just don't think it would be reliable as a primary source of income, whereas looking around the world you see alot of printed material. Some of the people who write it get paid. Getting your foot in the door is the biggest hurdle. For example advertising copy.

If there is one thing still going on it is advertising, nothing happens until something is sold. There are other possibilities out there, and I am in no position to enumerate them. You have to find them. Look in odd places. Put the newspaper down and get out a telephone book, a yellow, listed by category. Pose as a potential customer and gather information. How long will it take you to get an appointment, too soon they might have use for some advertising. You can try making your own fliers and possibly booklets, go around to the companies  that might be ripe for picking and take some of the risk, use a unique coupon to distinguish business that your copy actually brought in. At worst you'll  have to come up with some money for the initial printing, or a high end laser printer might prove to be a good investment.

OK, this might not be the best advice, but it could work and I have considered doing it myself. I am really tired of my job. Notwithstanding the typos I commit here, I can do it, via about thirty years of learning, I used to be terrible at it. I learned by emulation. But I am to the point where at my previous job I was asked to author most of the company correspondence in certain matters, that because I could just do it, it would take three of them a whole day to clean it up and get the idea structure correct.

Of course there is always setting your sights a bit lower for a time, for example write resumes for people, or more aptly maybe cover letters. It's advertising, just for an individual instead of a company. So many express themselves so poorly that they hurt themselves in the job market, which is fierce in almost any field today. With so many people layed off, phased out or whatever they choose to call it this year, there are probably enough job seekers that you could live on it. Even if you charge say twenty five bucks to clean their work up, do four of them a day and you should be OK. The problem is finding those people.

Again, you have to find them, but I can tell you this much about how the world is based on my observations of a few decades, those who do the best in life do not seek opportunity, they make it. I know it is not easy. You might have to resort to some tactics, for example if you want to dabble in resumes and cover letters, perhaps it would be a good thing to sort of pose as an employment agency. Perhaps learn a bit of web design and start a site "wantajob.com" or something like that. Don't decieve, but you can imply. But then that is simply one aspect of advertising, which is what it is.

None of these ideas might be right for you, who knows ? If not it is then up to you to find or create those opportunities. It can take many forms. You may want to see a carreer counsellor yourself, and if you do, keep your ideas in mind. They will at least have a better idea of how the job market stands these days. Even if you go on yuour own, you might gain some valuable information from them.

These are just general suggestions, I don't even know where you are. Things are different all over, but have similarities. One is alot of people out of work and the other is alot of companies going out of business. Fortunes are made during times like these, but by the few. Unless you were born into big money, you'll have to forge a new opportunity for yourself. If you have a nice slush fund you can just buy low and sell high. Most of us can't do that.

So that and a grain of salt is your's. Good luck, you'll need it, actually we all need it.

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RE: Graduating and Scared - 2/18/2009 10:55:17 AM   
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This one time at band camp... I applied for school and after at a metting I was asked "What makes you think you should be able to qualify to attend this school without submiting testing scores, records or any other material?  Many students compete to come here."

My response was "I can pay for it and anything beyond that is really non of your business."

His response: "Thats a really interesting point."

Needless to say I got accepted.  I wouldnt recomend saying that.. but it was funny at the time.

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RE: Graduating and Scared - 2/18/2009 11:05:23 AM   
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-fast reply-

This thread was supposed to be satirical right?

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RE: Graduating and Scared - 2/18/2009 11:08:07 AM   
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I will graduate in a semester and half, and I am not scared of shit. The economy may suck, but so what. If I have to work retail for a while, then so be it. If for some unholy reason we go under, then so be it. I can always hit the road, truly live life. Plus, as Merc said, "I expect you made very little contribution to your 'education' or you would have "heard" about the economy sooner and perhaps had something know as a 'plan' after the graduation party."
I've seen things going down hill for a while and am glad that in addition to pretending to be educated just because I am in college, that I listened to everything my dad told me about how the real world works and how to make your own way. A degree is just a piece of paper saying you jumped through the hoops in my opinion. I am sure most of my professors hate me because I actually challenge and question them, but if I am paying their wages and jumping their hoops, then by god I am going to get my dollars worth.
Figure your own life out. Its just a piece of paper. And you should have learned something about how to make it without the degree.


...maybe I'll become a nomad or something, that sounds like a good use of my degree ;)


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RE: Graduating and Scared - 2/18/2009 11:10:32 AM   
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I wish. Half the people I know graduating are shitting themselves wondering what they are going to do. It's really kind of cute. 

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RE: Graduating and Scared - 2/18/2009 11:19:30 AM   
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I wish. Half the people I know graduating are shitting themselves wondering what they are going to do. It's really kind of cute. 



I might be willing to assist one or two of those female graduates with what they could do with themselves if they were able to might my stringent enslav----uhmmmm I mean hiring practices.

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RE: Graduating and Scared - 2/18/2009 11:21:00 AM   
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hahahaha
come to the "job" fair and set up a booth, might get some interest.


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RE: Graduating and Scared - 2/18/2009 11:23:08 AM   
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Now there's a plan....



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RE: Graduating and Scared - 2/18/2009 11:24:32 AM   
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I sincerely hope it's a sarcasm because he's my age..and if he has only "heard" that there's a crisis going on ...then wow..he's got a long way to go

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RE: Graduating and Scared - 2/18/2009 11:32:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Three, have a plan B, C, D.................etc etc.

As a  person that does hiring I can tell you that
A) your degree will mean much less than your work ethic.
B) the work you find will very likely have very little to do with your degree.
C) be willing to work your way up.



Ha! I started work with an insurance co out of college and the very first thing my trainer told me on my first day on the job was; "Forget everything you learned in college, we're going to teach you our way!"
And they did.

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RE: Graduating and Scared - 2/18/2009 11:43:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

quote:

I've heard the economy is in the crapper.


You identified a cause right there. You are graduating college in three months and just "heard" about the economy?

You're coming from the same source as those presently running the government; academic theory and no practical knowledge or skill to survive, let alone thrive, in the real world. I expect you made very little contribution to your 'education' or you would have "heard" about the economy sooner and perhaps had something know as a 'plan' after the graduation party.

College is a great source of unrealistic, theoretical knowledge. Since you seem to think you can't 'do', I suggest you take the same route as your schools purveyors of knowledge - teach. You'll be insulated from reality, be part of a sacred order of employment - teacher's unions; and help perpetuate the world you are graduating into.

Good luck and congratulations on completing your indoctrination.


You know, you really need to lighten up and find a way to rid yourself of the bitterness that leads you into these constant rants.

To suggest that furthering one's education is useless and of no benefit in the real world is just mind-numbingly ignorant.

But to pounce on some kid asking for advice and admitting he's scared is just fucking wrong!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: Graduating and Scared - 2/18/2009 11:51:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth


College is a great source of unrealistic, theoretical knowledge.


This is crap.

What do you think clinicals and internships are for?

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RE: Graduating and Scared - 2/18/2009 11:57:24 AM   
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Clinicals and Internships are not Curricular for college they are in addition to your college courses and are not funded by the school therefore you cannot consider either to be part of the functionality of college.

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