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FullCircle -> RE: TSA scanning or patting down (2/18/2009 10:36:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol
Such a wonderful opportunity to let perverts find fulfillment in their line of work, isn't it ?

It's too late for me, they should have told me sooner, I've now branched off into another line of work altogether.[8|]




rulemylife -> RE: TSA scanning or patting down (2/18/2009 10:41:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop
I thought they'd already done this at Tampa

There were trials of the equipment conducted at a small number of airports using one or two screening stations at each airport.


I think they need some corrections to their story.  They said:  An experimental program that begins today at Tulsa International Airport will test whether the $170,000 body scanners could replace $10,000 metal detectors that have screened airline passengers since 1973. Airports in San Francisco, Las Vegas, Miami, Albuquerque and Salt Lake City will join the test in the next two months, TSA spokesman Christopher White said.
 
As GT said, this is not new.  And Las Vegas has had the scanners for some time now; I saw them in use last July when I flew thru there.  There were other airports with them as well.

What makes this "experimental program that begins today" any different than the experimental program already in place at some airports??


Cali



Because at the previous trials the scanners were in limited use at only one or two screening stations while the majority of the passengers went through the usual machines.

If I'm understanding the news reports completely, this trial replaces all the old machines with the new scanners.




CalifChick -> RE: TSA scanning or patting down (2/18/2009 10:58:45 AM)

Um... okay.  Then someone needs to go back to journalism 101.  Here is the opening line of the story:  For the first time, some airline passengers will skip metal detectors and instead be screened by body scanning machines that look through clothing for hidden weapons, the Transportation Security Administration said Tuesday.

No, it's not the first time that "some" airline passengers will skip metal detectors.  The inference is that body scanners have never been used. 


Cali




OrionTheWolf -> RE: TSA scanning or patting down (2/18/2009 11:51:37 AM)

Yeah but the government is creating all these jobs for people. The usefulness of a job does not matter, it puts money back into the economy. I mean really, look at how many people work for the IRS. Next people will be saying that the IRS is not needed.

One of my clients is the property management company for the Atlanta airport. Their offices are beyond the secured area. All it takes is signing a list, showing my drivers license and a business card. I was granted a security badge that allowed me in all the back areas. They did not have a list of appointments, and did not even call up to make sure I was supposed to be there.


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

It's just another "feel good" measure. 

Passengers are subjected to intrusive searches to provide the illusion of safety.

Yet, while all passengers airlines carry cargo, cargo exclusive of passenger baggage, none of that cargo has been subject to screening until recently.

Which begs the question, If you want to blow up an airplane would you be trying to smuggle explosives on board or would you just put them in a box and ship them as freight on that airplane?

Even now, the new rules only allow for screening of 50% of cargo with 100 % scheduled for August 2010.  Nine years after 9/11.

The reason?  The bottom line of profit, as always.  Business groups have lobbied long and hard against these new rules.

And even now businesses are bemoaning the impending regulations:



New air cargo screening rules looming, shippers brace for impactAug 28, 2008 ... Passenger airlines fear the impact new regulations for screening cargo will have on their bottom lines. Transporting cargo accounts for ...
news.medill.northwestern.edu/chicago/news.aspx?id=98411 - 26k


The plan, which is expected to cost the cargo industry between $3 billion and $4 billion over the next 10 years, essentially leaves shippers such as Flynn with two options: purchase costly screening equipment, or hope for the best.

“It’s absolutely tragic,” Flynn said. “It will destroy the industry and put thousands of people out of work.”

The new guidelines, which were signed into law last August following the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission, will require the screening of 50 percent of all cargo transported on passenger aircraft by February 2009. By August of 2010, 100 percent of the 6 billion pounds worth of cargo transported on passenger planes will have to be screened.








kittinSol -> RE: TSA scanning or patting down (2/18/2009 12:20:08 PM)

If a job as a passport security officer guarantees peep-show quality work, I bet tons of people will apply for it [:(] . 




Crush -> RE: TSA scanning or patting down (2/18/2009 12:25:20 PM)

Some of us with implants get patted down anyway...good reason to fly :)

Of course, when they find that CB 2000....well....




came4U -> RE: TSA scanning or patting down (2/18/2009 12:37:02 PM)

This guy found a backdoor way to avoid security.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohLRiiGK7ho

lol, clever,.




blacksword404 -> RE: TSA scanning or patting down (2/18/2009 1:59:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

And going on eight years after 9/11 that Mexican border is still wide open.


Congress has no intention of closing that border. No matter what they say.




Vendaval -> RE: TSA scanning or patting down (2/18/2009 5:52:39 PM)

Fast reply -
 
There was another discussion about these scanners here a few months ago.  For the most part I think it is a serious breach of privacy.  But in the instances of people with metal plates in their knees or other replacement parts a scanner would be beneficial.




Termyn8or -> RE: TSA scanning or patting down (2/18/2009 8:30:06 PM)

Then let it be their choice ?

Wait, that has already been brought up. What a bunch of .............

Can I stick around ?

T




Vendaval -> RE: TSA scanning or patting down (2/18/2009 8:47:58 PM)

(hands Term the gloves for body cavity searches and a mag light) *oh snap!




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