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"Sourgrette" dressing ? - 2/18/2009 7:04:35 PM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		As many of those who read me know, I lost my sweet tooth many years ago, over two decades ago in fact. I not only decided that sugar was poison, but also that even it's substitutes were. In fact I haven't had anything with honey in it for almost as long, but I would consider it if need ne. Most specifically would be this local icecream shop that makes their own and uses on honey for sweetener, no sugar or anything else in any of their products.

What the hoo, I like sour. I've taken to just using vinegar and sour cream for a salad dressing. Ususally I add pepper and seasalt, but that's it. I think the stuff is great actually. Sometimes (which I intend to do today) I'll just use it as a dip for celery sticks or something like that.

Any ideas an what else to put in it are welcome, as long as they are not sweet. I have actually tried finely grated carrots. Sweet yes but not beyond the natural. Gave it a nice orange color as well.

But what else I wanted to ask, does anyone else have that type of taste, like I do ? I mean I can smell a teaspoon of sugar in a cup of coffee from quite a ways away. I can smell sugar through the plastic containers of softdrinks, although most of that might be residue from the bottling plant rather than porousity .

About two weeks ago, I gave out some of this simple dressing and they said "Damn, that's good". How many others are out there who simply have lost their sweet tooth ?

I have started to think maybe that it is a natural progression, but one that many never make because they are addicted. Like a maturation of one's taste, or taste buds.

Healthwise though, if a guy walks in here with a two liter of Coke, and drinks it while I drink say three beers, I am starting to think it hurts me less. This has been brought up, that even lower alcohol beers can be detrimental to health in larger quantities. Well I remember that thread and have cut down the quntity quite a bit, and I don't really notice a difference. But with all that sugar or HFCS in those soft drinks, how healthy can they be ?

But back to it, I don't WANT anything sweet, I like anything from neutral to sour. I have had places make me my own special sauce for like wings and stuff. I asked one day if they sold any to anyone else and they said yes. Couple of people.

So I am just wondering who is out there who likes sour. I mean I eat undrained saurkraut, I drink the pickle or hot pepper juice out of the bottle. I don't do it alot because I am aware it is full of sodium, but when I do it is invigorating.

Is there anyone out there ? Or is everyone else a sugar junkie ?

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RE: "Sourgrette" dressing ? - 2/18/2009 7:21:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		I like unsweetened grapefruit juice and bitter melon, which is a vegetable common in Chinese and Filipino cuisine.  My tastes run towards tart like berries rather than sugary sweet.

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RE: "Sourgrette" dressing ? - 2/18/2009 7:48:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		I know a lot of people who are salt junkies, but sour is unusual.

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RE: "Sourgrette" dressing ? - 2/18/2009 8:44:08 PM   
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I've taken to just using vinegar and sour cream for a salad dressing.


The only thing I use on salads is a little olive oil, vinegar, and a few spices and herbs.  It disgusts me to watch someone drown their salad in something like ranch dressing. 

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RE: "Sourgrette" dressing ? - 2/18/2009 8:45:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		My French roommate made a vinagarette like that but added a bit of mustard sauce.

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RE: "Sourgrette" dressing ? - 2/18/2009 8:52:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've seen people do that.  I've been told that mustard helps emulsify the oil and the vinegar.  I'm not that complicated.  I just pour about a teaspoon of oil in with my salad, than sprinkle it with some wine vinegar and the spices.  Sometimes, I'll just do plain oil and vinegar.  I hate those store bought vinaigrettes, and I generally don't like the ones in restaurants. 

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RE: "Sourgrette" dressing ? - 2/18/2009 8:56:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		i am a sugar addict.. but.. i also love sour.

i do believe ya though..that you can smell the sugar in a cup of coffee.. ect.. cause..well.. awhile back i developed a case of food poisoning.. from improperly cooked beef.. and at the time.. i'd been working at Buger King... ( did'nt get sick at burger king.. got sick off a steak id cooked at home) But anyways.. when i'd go to work..and have to work in the kitchen to prep sandwhiches.. ick.. standing beside the chain pulled grill and smelling the meat patties as they flopped off the chain, fully cooked.. well.. eww.. but i could SMELL dead cow on them.

And milk also ..during that time.. i could SMELL cow anytime i opened up a gallon of milk.

Its still that way now..to a lesser degree...thankfully.. cause i've gone back to enjoying the flavors of a well cooked steak. ( Wont eat one as bloody as i used to though).

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RE: "Sourgrette" dressing ? - 2/18/2009 8:59:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		And..another thing.. to address the subject..lol

My current favorite salad dressing is Sweet Vidalia Onion... mmm..
sweet ~n~ oniony !!

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RE: "Sourgrette" dressing ? - 2/18/2009 8:59:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm a vinegar freak. It's my absolute favorite flavor. I can make a meal out of tomatoes, shaved parm cheese, sea salt and balsamic vinegar.

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RE: "Sourgrette" dressing ? - 2/18/2009 9:05:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Like an antipasto salad, Aileen?

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RE: "Sourgrette" dressing ? - 2/18/2009 10:59:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

I like unsweetened grapefruit juice and bitter melon, which is a vegetable common in Chinese and Filipino cuisine.  My tastes run towards tart like berries rather than sugary sweet.


ooh, I love bitter melon, I thought I was the only one.  :D

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RE: "Sourgrette" dressing ? - 2/18/2009 11:04:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		How about the sunomono salads at Japanese restaurants with rice vinegar?  yum... 

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RE: "Sourgrette" dressing ? - 2/19/2009 9:17:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Vinegar and sour cream dressing with pepper and sea salt. Mercy - just reading that made my jaw tingle and my eyes water. I'm going to make that this weekend because it sounds excellent !

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RE: "Sourgrette" dressing ? - 2/19/2009 9:28:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Some good ideas I think, might try it. Never thought of mustard.

MsF, don't forget you can put anything you please in there. Like some crushed garlic or garlic oil.  If you can get some cheddar to melt properly, and something I discovered about Italian dressing a few years ago, sometimes there is lemon juice in it.

Dried spices work well if you have the time to let them set in the vinegar, or even maybe heat the mixture to speed up the process.

The possibilities are endless, but I like it in it's original form. Simple.

Also, if you like the sourness, don't grate the carrots into it.

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RE: "Sourgrette" dressing ? - 2/19/2009 10:53:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		I love both sweet and sour. However.......my taste in sweet is very picky. Not just any candy, dark chocolate only! Not just any sugary confection, but good homemade cookies, cakes, brownies, etc....made with real sugar. And usually less than the recipe calls for. I usually hate sweet drinks of any sort. Don't EVEN put a soda near me. I think non natural sweetners are purely evil. Diet beverages make for fat people.

I love to pair sour and sweet. Example: a vinegar dressing on romaine lettuce, chopped braeburn apple, some crumbled feta cheese, and raw pecan pieces. Delish.

My tastebuds have changed dramatically over the years.


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RE: "Sourgrette" dressing ? - 2/19/2009 11:14:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		For years, I made a simple homemade dressing made with organic apple cider vinegar, organic olive oil, a small amount of very finely chopped organic garlic, sea salt, freshly ground peppercorns, and just a hint of Italian seasoning.

But then I found out that my body doesn't handle yeast very well. So now I just use sea salt, and freshly ground peppercorns. Sometimes I'll add just a hint of onion powder, celery salt, or grated cheese for variety.  

I never cared for anything sweet before a main course.  


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RE: "Sourgrette" dressing ? - 2/19/2009 11:34:55 AM   
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olive oil
dill
rosemary
minced sundried tomato
sea salt
onion
garlic
cilantro

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RE: "Sourgrette" dressing ? - 2/19/2009 11:48:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

I'm a vinegar freak. It's my absolute favorite flavor. I can make a meal out of tomatoes, shaved parm cheese, sea salt and balsamic vinegar.


Add some freshly ground black pepper, and maybe some red onions and Yumm!
Balsamic vinegar is one of my favourite, but other vinegars can be delish as well.

I do like sweet, sour, salty, bitter, and spicy, it just has to be the right thing. Which usually means high quality. Not high price, necessary (even so some things like good dark chocolate can get a bit more pricey), but well made or not tampered with at all.

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RE: "Sourgrette" dressing ? - 2/19/2009 1:23:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I love both sweet and sour. However.......my taste in sweet is very picky. Not just any candy, dark chocolate only! Not just any sugary confection, but good homemade cookies, cakes, brownies, etc....made with real sugar. And usually less than the recipe calls for. I usually hate sweet drinks of any sort. Don't EVEN put a soda near me. I think non natural sweetners are purely evil. Diet beverages make for fat people.

Do you have a preferences on brown or white sugars?  How about using the raw sugar crystals in recipes?


I love to pair sour and sweet. Example: a vinegar dressing on romaine lettuce, chopped braeburn apple, some crumbled feta cheese, and raw pecan pieces. Delish.

That sounds fabulous! 


My tastebuds have changed dramatically over the years.

Moving away from sugar mostly?  Mine have changed to include a wider variety of tastes.




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RE: "Sourgrette" dressing ? - 2/19/2009 2:52:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have to be honest. I am not terribly picky about what kind of sugar, as long as it is real sugar. You will never find me baking cookies with Splenda, or whatever the current faux sugar of the month is.

I haven't really moved away from sugar, just like you've said, a much wider variety of tastes are enjoyable than used to be. I find I like more complex flavours. Take berries for instance. I hate mullberries, too....just sweet, almost like a candy. But I love raspberries because they have the combination of tart and sweet.



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