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RE: Are you more cynical? - 2/20/2009 4:05:56 PM   
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contradict yourself much?


Yeah, yeah, yeah.....you know what I mean.


I know what you mean. I've very cynical, I'm not really looking either. But that doesn't stop me from keeping my eyes open just in case that one is out there. I describe it as that tiny speck of hope that punches through my absolute disbelief.
 
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totally agree with you Jewel....be glad when someone finds that equipment and makes their move....lol

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RE: Are you more cynical? - 2/20/2009 7:21:05 PM   
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I find amsement in the stories abourt scene life.   I'm sorry people, but I will laugh in your face if you introduce yourself as Master Thunderbird. 


So I guess you wouldn't mind then that I find the name "slaveboyforyou" good for a giggle?

Personally I'm not at all cynical. It's unproductive and generally unappealing.


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RE: Are you more cynical? - 2/20/2009 7:26:12 PM   
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life (living day to day) can definitely be the inspiration for cynicism...


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RE: Are you more cynical? - 2/20/2009 8:39:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe we should go over the definition of cynical first= http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cynical, than decide, if we agree with the definition, do we than have a relatively realistic view of ourselves.   
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1: captious , peevish 2: having or showing the attitude or temper of a cynic: as  a: contemptuously distrustful of human nature and motives.   b: based on or reflecting a belief that human conduct is motivated primarily by self-interest
Cynical: implies having a sneering disbelief in sincerity or integrity


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RE: Are you more cynical? - 2/20/2009 11:45:55 PM   
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Maybe we should go over the definition of cynical first= http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cynical, than decide, if we agree with the definition, do we than have a relatively realistic view of ourselves.   
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1: captious , peevish 2: having or showing the attitude or temper of a cynic: as  a: contemptuously distrustful of human nature and motives.   b: based on or reflecting a belief that human conduct is motivated primarily by self-interest
Cynical: implies having a sneering disbelief in sincerity or integrity



i like captious and peevish...hence why i said i can be a cynic...


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RE: Are you more cynical? - 2/21/2009 2:20:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		 Don't be cynical. The "scene" (a word that is a joke to me) is just like any other aspect of life and the people you may come across. Many are nothing more than pond scum, parasites, liars, cheats, gold diggers and assholes. So what? You also find that in business, government, online, offline, the grocery store, a local bar and especially in churches.

Just do what you want to do, don't give up, don't listen to the naysayers and certainly don't listen to any self described "expert" on how to do things, what to do, when, where or why. Live your own life. Best of luck. :)

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

I have to admit it, I'm more cynical since I started my journey into kink.  I really don't care if I meet someone now, I really don't.  I meet plenty of vanilla gals to keep my palate wet.  I don't actively seek women out here.  I've done that, and the results are typically boring.  I find amusement in reading the boards, but I'm always looking for that one person.  I find amsement in the stories abourt scene life.   I'm sorry people, but I will laugh in your face if you introduce yourself as Master Thunderbird. 

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RE: Are you more cynical? - 2/21/2009 5:19:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FullfigRIMAAM1

Maybe we should go over the definition of cynical first= http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cynical, than decide, if we agree with the definition, do we than have a relatively realistic view of ourselves.   
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1: captious , peevish 2: having or showing the attitude or temper of a cynic: as  a: contemptuously distrustful of human nature and motives.   b: based on or reflecting a belief that human conduct is motivated primarily by self-interest
Cynical: implies having a sneering disbelief in sincerity or integrity



Let's see I am contemptuously distrustful human nature and motives, I believe that human conduct is motivated primarily by self interest, I scoff at the idea that most people have integrity and come from a place of sincerity. I believe our daily world news is proof of that.

But I also believe that there are people that fight it and are very generous and good people. People that sacrific for the good of others. I just think they can be rare, AND when backed into a corner, often times revert to the more reptilian self serving behaviour.

Off topic.......HOT new photo FullfigRIMAAM!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: Are you more cynical? - 2/21/2009 6:22:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MissMorrigan

Lady Hibiscus, I really don't want to come across as being critical of you, but if there is a clear pattern of running into 'loons' and 'assholes' then there is only one common denominator. I've been there myself, i went through a period where the submissives I invited into a relationship with me were far from forthcoming. Admittedly, I blamed them, moved on, found yet another submissive that treated me with less than respect. It took someone who respected me enough to tell me a few home truths and I threw the mother of all temper tantrums at hearing things I didn't like. it was only after a great deal of reflection and time away from any kind of D/s / S & M that I realised I had been making extremely poor choices out of loneliness. I didn't want to continue that path and changed it, but it needed me to be brutally honest with myself before I could begin a process of learning to make healthier choices and stop using sites such as CM to bolster my ego.

While I understand why it is people want to focus on the good in people, I can't when it's to our personal detriment.

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
They're poisoned bubbles, love...  I have been full blown bitter, and only the memory of what that was like keeps me working to stay out of it.



Um... thanks?  I wasn't aware that I was attracting assholes and loons, or using the site to bolster myself!   I fully agree, loneliness makes for bad choices.   Perhaps I should have been clearer that I am cynical at the amazing LACK of choice out there!

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RE: Are you more cynical? - 2/21/2009 7:30:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was one of those fortunate people born with many bubbles.

being one of those special people that Lady H talks mentions above as rare....I have ended up seeing searching on cm as a crap-shoot. Wading through the s*** to find that pony. Remember that story? The one where the boy is in the stable shoveling....he does this for a long time and finally says: "Heh! There must be a pony under here somewhere!"

I have found myself getting a cynical attitude from our modern day society. Where service people can be very rude, good manners certainly seem to be scarce. It does get old when 'intentions are good, but actions are not'.

I still believe that proof is in the pudding.
I have become much more cautious and have gained a lot of insight about how to check people out from this site. I come here for comic relief, ideas, and a fat handful of online friends I have made here. There are a lot of subs I've met from cm, and I do call on them from time to time.

I keep my antennae up, check my own motives, blow off steam where it is appropriate and retreat into my silken cave when I need to recharge my batteries.

Because I joined a local group that has a lot of kinky fun- well I have a good amount of kinky fun in my life and that certainly takes the edge off of my cynicism.

What I focus on is building my skills in whatever interests me. Right now I am into Shibari and sensual zappy violet wand play. I also love to have a pain slut at my beck and call. For any newbies reading this, that means that I like to have a sub around who thrives on receiving pain from Me, and is a bit of a masochist. It does not mean they are a slut in general.

I get to move my angst out in the ways stated above: which has the happy result of bringing my bubbles back to the center of my core.

Bubblicious baby!



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RE: Are you more cynical? - 2/21/2009 8:19:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

I have to admit it, I'm more cynical since I started my journey into kink.  I really don't care if I meet someone now, I really don't.  I meet plenty of vanilla gals to keep my palate wet.  I don't actively seek women out here.  I've done that, and the results are typically boring.  I find amusement in reading the boards, but I'm always looking for that one person.  I find amsement in the stories abourt scene life.   I'm sorry people, but I will laugh in your face if you introduce yourself as Master Thunderbird. 


So you're cynical, sarcastic and need to be impressed all the time..mmm'kay we got it. Next post.

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RE: Are you more cynical? - 2/21/2009 8:21:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
Let's see I am contemptuously distrustful human nature and motives, I believe that human conduct is motivated primarily by self interest, I scoff at the idea that most people have integrity and come from a place of sincerity. I believe our daily world news is proof of that.

But I also believe that there are people that fight it and are very generous and good people. People that sacrific for the good of others. I just think they can be rare, AND when backed into a corner, often times revert to the more reptilian self serving behaviour.
I will tend to trust until I start to see inconsistencies, but you're right, it is an active process.   

I went through a couple of years of believing everyone sucks, and wants your blood if they can have it.   I began feeling lonely around a lot of people, than I decided that everyone tries to do their best, and some are better at aligning what they show outside with what's inside, having integrity.    I don't think it's so rare though...    I see people doing the right thing fairly often, even if it doesn't superficially benefit them.

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Off topic.......HOT new photo FullfigRIMAAM!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you .    I felt like I shouldn't be so incognito on this side as much as I post (for now).    M

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RE: Are you more cynical? - 2/21/2009 8:26:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have to admit that the longer I have been in the lifestyle, the more cynical I get as well. However, the older I become, the more cynical I become about people in general.  I am educated, professional and a very dominant person in my day to day life.  I can't submit to someone just because they give themselves a title of Sir/Ma'am/Master/Mistress (which many people online seem to demand).  I have to love and respect the person before I can engage in a D/s relationship with them. 

I have been in and out of the lifestyle for about 11 years.  I had pretty much written off finding a Domme/Mistress that would meet my needs.  About 2 1/2 years ago, I was lucky enough to find the perfect Mistress.  So don't give up hope...there is likely someone out there for you. Good luck!       



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RE: Are you more cynical? - 2/21/2009 8:30:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

I have to admit it, I'm more cynical since I started my journey into kink.  I really don't care if I meet someone now, I really don't.  I meet plenty of vanilla gals to keep my palate wet.  I don't actively seek women out here.  I've done that, and the results are typically boring.  I find amusement in reading the boards, but I'm always looking for that one person.  I find amsement in the stories abourt scene life.   I'm sorry people, but I will laugh in your face if you introduce yourself as Master Thunderbird. 



No. As with any group of people, some will hold your interest. It's a case of keep chipping away until someone comes along who can offer what you want.

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RE: Are you more cynical? - 2/21/2009 8:52:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MissMorrigan
if there is a clear pattern of running into 'loons' and 'assholes' then there is only one common denominator.

Hmm, I'm pretty cautious, and try not to get emotionally attached until I've been around them in person a bit. So far, CM has been going extremely well for me in the 3 weeks I've been here, and I had very good experiences (including meeting my last boyfriend/Dom) with the other site I was on, when I was looking there. I haven't necessarily been romantically/sexually interested in the people I've met, you can't guarantee that up front, but I haven't met *any* liars, flakes, assholes or loons, or had any horrible experiences. By and large, the people I've met have been at least interesting to talk with, even if we didn't click for more than that.

Sure, I've had a few spam-type e-mails from people who obviously haven't read my profile, but most of them are pretty obvious and easy to filter out. Most of the people who contact me are reasonably interesting, literate, and respectful. Sometimes after a couple of e-mails, we discover that we just don't have any compatibility in what we're looking for, but none of them have been jerks about it. I'm a little surprised at how many people seem to be having those difficulties here.

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RE: Are you more cynical? - 2/21/2009 6:53:46 PM   
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RE: Are you more cynical? - 2/21/2009 7:46:28 PM   
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RE: Are you more cynical? - 2/22/2009 2:16:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am more selective in being cynical than before knowing there were other perverts and most importantly, Dominant Women/Mistresses, etc.  During my first trips to meeting people at munchs and gatherings in the SF Bay Area and Santa Cruz there was a strong sense of being in the right place and time and coming home.
 
Sappy as that may be, there you have it.



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RE: Are you more cynical? - 2/22/2009 5:45:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Everything you stated, Andalusite, was the point I was trying to convey originally. I truly believe we find what we seek, even if it's to discover that the people we meet weren't compatable with us. Perception and expectations. I very rarely get the silly emails that many people complain about on the site, so again, I wonder if it's about how people project themselves as to the kind of interest they receive. I do think that opportunists will know the personality types to focus on which will derive the most 'sport' for them.

I'm glad you've had some very good experiences, I hope they long continue. I've met so many good people from CM, I also met my submissive partner via this site and hope to meet more acquaintances and formulate more friendship in the near future (I'm going to bag Stella and Prinsexx if it's the last thing I do, just not in a 'Dexter' kind of way).
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ORIGINAL: Andalusite
Hmm, I'm pretty cautious, and try not to get emotionally attached until I've been around them in person a bit. So far, CM has been going extremely well for me in the 3 weeks I've been here, and I had very good experiences (including meeting my last boyfriend/Dom) with the other site I was on, when I was looking there. I haven't necessarily been romantically/sexually interested in the people I've met, you can't guarantee that up front, but I haven't met *any* liars, flakes, assholes or loons, or had any horrible experiences. By and large, the people I've met have been at least interesting to talk with, even if we didn't click for more than that.

Sure, I've had a few spam-type e-mails from people who obviously haven't read my profile, but most of them are pretty obvious and easy to filter out. Most of the people who contact me are reasonably interesting, literate, and respectful. Sometimes after a couple of e-mails, we discover that we just don't have any compatibility in what we're looking for, but none of them have been jerks about it. I'm a little surprised at how many people seem to be having those difficulties here.


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RE: Are you more cynical? - 2/22/2009 9:18:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		this lifestyle has not made me cynical, LIFE has made me cynical. Most people suck, wether theyre vanilla or kinky.



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RE: Are you more cynical? - 2/22/2009 9:28:32 AM   
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this lifestyle has not made me cynical, LIFE has made me cynical. People suck, wether theyre vanilla or kinky.


Preach it, my subby brotha!!!

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