sissymaidlola
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Know anything about prison sex? The penetrator is the "male," and the penetrated is the "bitch." The bitch is often forced to dress like a woman, wear make-up, etc. To most outsiders, the two are equally involved in a homosexual relationship, but within the prison world, only the penetrated partner loses any gender status. A really excellent point Lordandmaster ... sissy sooo wishes he had said that, Oscar! But if You don't mind sissy asking, Sir, where exactly did YOU learn all about the recondite arts of incarceration in-arse-serration ? You posted with such knowledge and authority on this topic, Sir, that it sent shivers down sissy's spine and just got him to thinking a little ... quote:
It's because most human societies associate masculinity with strength and dominance, and femininity with weakness and submission. That's not true across the board, of course, but it still should not be very surprising that a great number of male subs want to be forced to endure some form of gender humiliation. That observation is right on the money, too, Lordandmaster! Let sissy add his own two scents worth to that thought (that's Shalimar and Channel N°5 for those of you that are gift conscious <giggles>) ... When one crossdresses in public, one is somewhat limited to the locations that one can safely go. You can slip into your favorite frilly frock and mince on over to the local redneck bar - but you might never return! Or you could go for a stroll in the nearest shopping mall on a Saturday afternoon and drop in at the Chuck E. Cheese franchise - and get yourself arrested for corrupting minors! So most of us TVs usually end up hanging out in TG-friendly bars and restaurants, most of which are gay owned or, at least, are fundamentally targeted at a gay clientele. So this sissy has spent more than a fair share of his time hanging out in gay bars and venues in the DuPont Circle area of Washington D.C. Before going to any bar for the first time (unless sissy ended up at that bar for the first time as part of a crowd - where there is safety in numbers) sissy would first case any joint he intended to visit as lola dressed as his normal drab self. So sissy has quite a bit of experience in having patronized the same gay venue dressed both as his drab male self and his drag lola self. This has given him some unique perspectives on the kind of mix of GLBTQ folk and their hetero/vanilla admirers that frequent such locations. The particular experience that is pertinent here is the following. lola Has been hit on by all kinds of gentlemen and rough trade in these venues. A guy in a dress in a gay bar or restaurant - or, in lola's particular case, usually a drag revue bar because they are sooo much more fun - is automatically presumed to be gay. Well duh! But this isn't true, because many of the other crossdressed clientele in such locations are also hetero / bisexual TV/TG/TS gals too. People do not seem to realize that a large portion of the "gay drag queens" that are reported as participating in the Stonewall riots in New York in 1969 were actually "hetero / bi TVs" such as lola that were using the Stonewall bar as their own safe-haven. The distinction between "hetero TV" and "gay DQ" is a subtlety that would have been totally lost on the1969 television (damn ... can't abbreviate that term in a post such as this one without causing confusion amongst the readers! ) and newspaper audience to which these events were reported. In fact, it is a subtlety that is lost on many of the homophobes and transphobes on this message board. Now most gay men are gay because they prefer to be with a masculine partner ... they are attracted to a masculine man in the same way that a woman is (as has been discussed elsewhere on this thread). Only a small proportion of gay men are attracted to TVs / drag queens as potential long term sexual partners. The male strip bar - where male strippers (who are NOT necessarily gay, BTW, but they all have great male bods) parade on stage or along the top of the bar as female strippers do in the comparable vanilla nudie bars - probably gets ten times the traffic as the drag revue bar gets in those gay establishments that host both kinds of entertainment. That is because 90% or more of gay guys (hmm, another statistic on this thread made up off of the top of lola's wig - but it's about that %) prefer guys and their male bodies to guys pretending to be gals. But gay guys are still guys after all, and like hetero guys, they are somewhat ruled by the smaller of their two heads, so if they are feeling horny and want a quick fix (i.e., a one night stand) then they might much more readily hit on the drag queens and CDs that are available. But the ideal partner that a truly homosexual male dreams about is NOT a drag queen ... it is another perfect male partner (perfect for them in their own terms), just as a heterosexual woman similarly dreams of her "Prince Charming" male partner. Sooo, anyways, lola would hang out with his DQ and TV friends in the drag revue bar, rather than the male strip bar, if there was a choice. The profile of the males that would frequent the drag revue bar in preference to the other one, and that would hit on lola or the other DQs / TVs he was with, were as follows: (1) they were gay and horny and in search of a quick fix as described above; (2) they were gay but they were still struggling with coming to terms with their own homosexuality, so they preferred their partners feminized because it meant that they were a little less queer themselves (a kind of "plausible denial" scenario! <giggles>); (3) they were truly bisexual and bedded both males and females, so a DQ / TV fired on all cylinders for them ... they were attracted to the blend of both the masculine and the feminine traits that a guy in drag gives out (whether he be DQ, TV, TG or TS); (4) they were heterosexual but couldn't get a date (so a guy in a dress was the next best thing); (5) they were heterosexual but their heterosexuality was a fetish - this one needs a much longer explanation. The type (5) heterosexual male is someone that loves everything that is feminine about a woman ... her clothes, her perfume, her mannerisms, etc. So much so that he is fixated on the appurtenances and accoutrements of the very feminine woman rather than the woman herself. He is a potential candidate for being a fetishistic TV himself except the idea has not yet occurred to him or he is too damned scared to go there himself. Since TVs and DQs tend to wear clothes that are much more overtly feminine that those that the average modern woman is normally willing to wear (ever since all women burnt their bras back in the sixties ), such a fetishistic male will frequently be more turned on by the DQ / TV and their over-the-top feminine appearance than by an attractive but more conservatively attired real woman standing beside them. When a guy started hitting on sissy he would always ask him what he was and why he was so infatuated with lola. In virtually all cases sissy wasn't actually interested in his suitor, but when you are crossdressed and in your "girlie" headspace, being pursued by a man only adds to your femme feelings (and it's also the ultimate compliment to your crossdressing). Not only that, lola is pretty fiesty, fun-loving and playful and he really enjoys sexually-oriented innuendo (sissy just loves those Italian butt plugs! ), banter and flirtation. It's all harmless fun, isn't it? Besides, as every woman probably knows, if you don't flirt with your suitor your only other choice is to leave the bar and go elsewhere - which in certain unfortunate cases is indeed the preferable option! Now guys did NOT identify to lola that they were in categories (1) through (5) ... they merely identified as being hetero, bi or gay ... mostly depending on what they thought lola wanted to hear. So finally lola reaches the crux of this post! Most of the South American suitors (we'll call them Hispanics for simplicity here, but that may be too narrow a classification) claimed that they were heterosexual. Even after lola asked them if they realized that he was a "guy in a dress" (lola did not for one moment think that they were fooled otherwise, but he had to hear that from their own mouths) they still insisted that they were heterosexual, and were even offended when lola suggested that since they wanted to take lola off to the back of their car or to some motel room to schtupp her in the worst way possible, they might actually be gay. This happened too many times (well not THAT many times, geez, don't get the wrong idea here for chrissakes, what sissy meant was that it happened more than once or twice! ) for it to be a coincidence. What sissy eventually realized was that in South American Spanish / Portuguese / Hispanic culture, a guy is ONLY gay if he is penetrated. If you are the penetrating male then you are a stud and heterosexual ... no matter what you are sticking your Goddam dick in! In this cultural background, to be a penetrator of others (presumably of humans, but this may even carry over to sheep, however sissy's survey of the gay scene concluded before he could get that far in his investigations ) made you a heterosexual male! That observation is completely validated by Lordandmaster's posted opinion - or perhaps it's vice versa. quote:
The great cuckolding wave is related to this, too. The male is supposed to be able to impose his exclusive right of access to his female partner; if he's less than fully male, he doesn't have the power to keep her exclusively for himself. Well yes, Lordandmaster, sissy made that point in his own OP on this thread. Cuckoldry as a kinky turnon is driven by the same deep subconscious fear of emasculation / "being a failure as a man" that a desire for chastity play, sissy play and CBT play are also driven by. The trampling kink is probably also derived from this fear but it is not specifically focused on the existence / size / function / use of the male gonads in the same fashion as those other kinks that sissy previously addressed. The trampling fetish kinky male desires that he be thought a complete failure as a human being rather than as just a virile man ... such a big failure, in fact, that all he is worthy of is for other people to walk all over him. These kinksters self-identify as rugs and carpets just as TVs self-identify as sissies. Also note that many guys into trampling want the Domme to walk all over their cocks with their spiked heels ... which is just another form of CBT and adds the desire to be perceived a "failed male" to the desire to be perceived as a "failed human"! That really isn't necessary as the concept "failed male" is subordinate to "failed human" ... but logic doesn't apply to how the subconscious works. It is similar to the gay connotations for the sissy ... "failure to perform with women" (because you prefer men) is subordinate to "failure as a male" and is really quite superfluous. Thus there are a lot of males into "sissy play" that find the idea of being sodomized (or any other kind of anal intrusion, such as butt plugs), or of having to suck the cocks of other males, to be total anathema, and consequently these are hard limits for them. There is another kink out there that is somewhat uncommon and so sissy reckons that's why he has never seen it addressed by the BDSM interests taxonomy on the CollarMe web site, and so sissy isn't sure exactly what it is called. The sub male wants the Domme to squash bugs with Her heels in front of his face. He lies on the floor and the Domme squashes the bugs up close in front of him. This kink, like some forms of breath play, might be more Asian or Middle-Eastern in its origins. IsHO, this is clearly the trampling kink but with the sub male mentally projecting himself into the bug's situation. Does anyone else reading this know any more about this kink and have anything to add ... like WTF such a kink is called? Projectionism, perhaps ? sissy maid lola
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