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AIG: "Please, Sir, may I have some more?" - 2/24/2009 6:30:30 AM   
BoiJen


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http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/market-overview/update--aig-talks-goverment-sees--bln-loss-source/

http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1881420,00.html?xid=rss-business

AIG is about to ask for more money? Really? Oh my god, are you serious?

"The financial channel also reports that the need for capital may be so great that AIG might have to enter Chapter 11, something the government has spent over $130 billion trying to prevent."
Oh my god, are you serious? Really?

"It's like giving your crack head cousin $100 to pay his rent and you see his at the racetrack and give him another" $130 billion (at this rate) "Really, AIG, are you serious?"

I can't wait for Saturday Night Live to hit this one too....who the hell else is tired of AIG asking for your money so that they, as an insurance company, can keep robbing you and other taxpayers?
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RE: AIG: "Please, Sir, may I have some more?" - 2/24/2009 6:35:40 AM   
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Sounds like they should go the way of other poorly managed companies....bye bye. Certainly there will be massive fallout, but at some point you have to cut the cord and let it go. Throwing more good money after bad is not a cure, for what is apparently a terminal disease.

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RE: AIG: "Please, Sir, may I have some more?" - 2/24/2009 7:27:01 AM   
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What do you expect? We really do have a "fox guarding the henhouse" scene. Bernanke, Paulson, Geitner, et.al., the entire wall street establishment, are all cut from the same cloth. They went to school together, were in the same fraternities, take vacations together... Now grown, and as alleged professional, they are supposed to be regulating, and perhaps even punishing, their good and best friends.

So, of course, AIG comes with hat in hand asking for more of your money. And they'll probably get it too. You'll be left with nothing but the bill.


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RE: AIG: "Please, Sir, may I have some more?" - 2/24/2009 7:59:52 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/market-overview/update--aig-talks-goverment-sees--bln-loss-source/

http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1881420,00.html?xid=rss-business

AIG is about to ask for more money? Really? Oh my god, are you serious?

"The financial channel also reports that the need for capital may be so great that AIG might have to enter Chapter 11, something the government has spent over $130 billion trying to prevent."
Oh my god, are you serious? Really?

"It's like giving your crack head cousin $100 to pay his rent and you see his at the racetrack and give him another" $130 billion (at this rate) "Really, AIG, are you serious?"

I can't wait for Saturday Night Live to hit this one too....who the hell else is tired of AIG asking for your money so that they, as an insurance company, can keep robbing you and other taxpayers?



I think AIG is a special case. They act like we are their bitch. Not like a poor beggar. And they are so arrogant about it. I think they have some aces up their sleeve. AIG is global with tentacles reaching everywhere.They either know where the financial bodies are buried and/or they still have the shovels.

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RE: AIG: "Please, Sir, may I have some more?" - 2/24/2009 8:50:57 AM   
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You notice which bloggers are not here right ? Their absence so far may be explained by thinking we still have some variety of something but only found in their imaginations...free market/capitalism. [sic]

I have the fix for these companies...NATIONALIZE them ALL. BUT we will never see that lest somebody get hurt and I don't mean financially. That of course could only properly be consumated by firing the ENTIRE management of these paper corps.

Kinkroids, this is an entire CULTURE lived by the investor class, the capitalist. They get to be greedy leverage our billions through something called 'something' backed securities and OFF-BOOK no less (it is something to hid from investors and govt./accounting) or in AIG's case...write ridiculous insurance coverage they cannot possibly make good on, take the money and when they can't pay...run to uncle Sam.

They take collectively $billions in bonuses putting it all into their pockets. YET, they get to blow it all up and come like the richest socialist in history with their tin cups out...come begging to Wash.

With what I read, there are literally millions of people that still don't get it. To leave these companies in business and to throw more money at them means THIS will ALL happen AGAIN...and AGAIN and again.



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RE: AIG: "Please, Sir, may I have some more?" - 2/24/2009 9:45:03 AM   
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Damn, MrR, you wrecked my morning. Well at least you did it with reality, that I appreciate.

I agree totally, if there is to be a bailout, what needs to be weighed in is the impact to the economy of this country. All upper management should be gone, no exceptions. If I were running things I would say sure, cut a check right now, but you Sir, who flew in on your private jet wearing a suit that costs more than some people's cars, are now unemployed.

That's how I would do it, and probably at less than half  the cost. Sure AIG is an issue, but when I refer to the automakers, I think it quite on topic. No matter what, leaving the same people in charge is not going to work. They were born with a silver spoon where their brain should be.

Yup, we are in for some hard times. Fortunes will be made, the other day I looked at my "major" credit card bill and the minimum was almost ten percent lower than usual. I don't recall making any kind of baloon payment so I had to take a second look. Turns out they lowered my interest to 8.65%, which is very good for plastic. But then the prime is zero and it simply means that my credit is good. Almost makes me want to go out and buy something, almost.

Anyhoo, wasn't it in the past that a failing company would tend to get bought out and subsequently management changed ? That is the capitalist way, and really it would probably be better to just let the chips fall where they may. While I might be torn on that particular issue, because I know the consequences, sticking to the rules, some people lose. And if nobody loses nobody wins. Let some new, competent people in there with fresh ideas.

Look at the news media, GM gets their bailout and what's the first thing they are going to do, close plants and lay people off. What the fuck good does that do the country ?

Speaking metaphorically, I have never seen a slippery slope with so many sharp edges.

But then characteristically, it seems whatever the government does, it does wrong. This is no surprise, it has been this way all my life. Makes one wonder just who these people think they are working for. It's like after the elections they just don't even recognize the voters who put them in their position, and won't remember until the next election.

I think this thread does alot to answer the question posed in the other thread entitled "Why are Americans against raising taxes ?". First of all we have to pay them, and now we find they are used to buy some suit yet another ivory backscratcher.

Pissed ? You betcha. To the point where if I expressed how much I would not only be thrown off CM, but the whole internet. I think the ballot box is done, it really is time for the cartridge box. The rock group Rush said it pretty well. We're marching to bastrille day, the the King will kneel and let his kingdom rise, and the guillotine will claim her bloody prize.

Face it, you can't vote your way out of this mess. Therefore until people are ready to put some fear into the government by whatever means, which is lawful under the Constitution, things are not going to change. I supported Obama because he wants out of Iraq, I expected no big changes in fiscal policy or the way government does business, if they can call it that. It simply ain't going to happen.

I also was never so unrealistic to think that it would.

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