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Men in Panties...A Positive Experience... - 2/24/2009 11:07:17 AM   
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The topic of boys who want to be girls all to often gets a lot of bad press on the Mistresses forum - and often deservedly so...we all know the reasons why...

So...I thought I would post about an amazingly positive experience involving men in panties and a whole lot more!  A "girls" night out in public! 

The players were myself and my Lady, two other trans-girls, and a married couple of whom the male is also trans.  All are kinky, all the "girls" are submissive.  When I say "trans" here, I mean that those involved all more comfortable in female clothing and persona, but are males who have decided against SRS.  I will politely ask for no definition arguments please.

We all got together at Studio Lites, a really cool kinky/stripper/trans store in Denver with wigs/shoes/jewelry/clothing/etc..  They also have a Las Vegas store that is apparently huge!  We looked around, and I bought a new pair of black leather open toe 5" heels that showed off my painted toes...my Lady got a pair of fishnet gloves...   We were three of us in boy mode, one already dressed in girl mode.  It was a fun time shopping!  As the evening was to be my first time out in public "dressed", we then went to scope out the locations where we were to spend our evening - two local bars that cater mostly to the gay/lesbian/trans community, and then we were off for lunch at a local restaurant that again is friendly to people cross dressed.  

We convenened at our married friends home for wine, snacks, and transformation!  We all watched a video on makeup for trans folk, I painted my Lady's nails, and we talked a lot!  It was a really fun time getting ready!  I had my hair set in curlers for the first time, and everyone got dolled up!   It was a lot like prom actually with pictures of every couple before we left.  I have asked to share a few of the photos and will post them on my profile when I can.  My Lady dressed in her finest fetish with patent black boots to die for, and I went for a Stevie Nicks look with black and brown tiered broomstick skirts, a copper and black ribbon lace up chamise top, a shimmery shawl/jacket, and cute short brown boots!  The others looked fabu too!

Our first stop was a smallish bar that does karaoke and we were among probably 20+ t-girls.  I was nearly sick I was so nervous, but we all ended up having a great time drinking and talking.  A young lady at the bar fell in love with one of our party and was all agaga over "her" and so we had some good conversation with their party and all enjoyed the show together.  The bar was holding a fundraiser for a gay-interest charity and I was plied with dollars and had to repeatedly get up and give to the performers - not like you would do with strippers mind you, just handing the dollar over as the person did their act and giving a curtsey. 

We then went to a larger bar and were there till nearly 1:45 talking and drinking and having a great time.  My Lady got a comment on her boots and I got a "you are fabulous" comment that really made me blush!  We were among the only t-girls in the bar with several hundred gay and lesbian folk and we got some looks, but everyone was positive and courteous.

Then back home and we all ate some late (very late) dinner of chicken enchiladas and talked until sleep took us all at 3:30.  Next morning was blueberry pancakes and fruit with me in nightie and silky robe...it was really heaven.

24 hours, all in girl-mode, all positive with people who were into it, and us - dominant females and submissive males.  I know this sort of thing is not for everyone, but wanted to share it as it was just great.  Cannot wait for our next trip out! 

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RE: Men in Panties...A Positive Experience... - 2/24/2009 12:50:22 PM   
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Otters, I'm glad you and the Lady had a great time.  No one ever said that because certain kinks were not our own, that they weren't fun for the people who enjoyed them.

Now, run.  and run quickly, before the defenders of the sacred word "trans" show up and get this thread all in a tizzy, too.


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RE: Men in Panties...A Positive Experience... - 2/24/2009 12:58:43 PM   
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5" heels - you are so awesome!!  <squishyhugforthebishione>

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RE: Men in Panties...A Positive Experience... - 2/24/2009 1:04:22 PM   
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Woohoo!  Thanks for sharing Otter!  Now I am a bit sorry I didn't get out more when I was in the area!  I was sitting here wondering which bars... where everything was and why I didn't know more about such things. lol  I am so glad you all had such a great time!

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RE: Men in Panties...A Positive Experience... - 2/24/2009 1:35:06 PM   
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Woohoo!  Thanks for sharing Otter!  Now I am a bit sorry I didn't get out more when I was in the area!  I was sitting here wondering which bars... where everything was and why I didn't know more about such things. lol  I am so glad you all had such a great time!


Thanks for the positive feedback all.  Lockit, I like you, had no idea before this weekend where a cross dressed person could hang out, nor that the gay and lesbian community here in Denver was so large, so diverse, or so pleasantly accepting.  It was a life marker experience to be sure!  We are going to try to do it every few months...I am busy planning my next outfit!  Likely, I will also show up to our local BDSM club, The Enclave, dressed in the near future as well.  Maybe i'll trot out those new 5" heels... 


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RE: Men in Panties...A Positive Experience... - 2/24/2009 1:48:50 PM   
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I hear good things about the Enclave... There was one place that was having some serious legal troubles from the city, but can't remember the name of it.  Someone posted about it about a year ago.. and I wondered what happened there.

You are getting pictures right? lol

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RE: Men in Panties...A Positive Experience... - 2/24/2009 2:07:48 PM   
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The Enclave is a really wonderful club.  Spacious and tidy and a really good sponsor of the community.  They host WICK'D nights every month.  My Lady and I went to one and we played in the Domme only upstairs dungeon...was awesome.  I will post pics as I get them!  

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RE: Men in Panties...A Positive Experience... - 2/24/2009 3:54:56 PM   
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quote:

We all got together at Studio Lites, a really cool kinky/stripper/trans store in Denver with wigs/shoes/jewelry/clothing/etc..

first...please share which side of town is this located on? only stores i know of are off colo. blvd and one somewhere off evans.

second, i am glad u posted ur positive experiences...and i stated in another post on this subject, i know it is not for everyone, but for those who like to indulge do so happily.  i have a pet who expressed his desires in panties/cross dressing/feminization and is currently going through "panties training" (if u will).

thx for sharing...


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RE: Men in Panties...A Positive Experience... - 2/24/2009 4:09:43 PM   
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An ex of mine did cross dress and we went out a few times. But what I thought was very cool about him and what made me comfortable with him was that in his "femme" persona he was my sister top, not my submissive. He felt empowered to be dressed up similar to me and to hang out with me this way.



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RE: Men in Panties...A Positive Experience... - 2/24/2009 4:14:42 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

We all got together at Studio Lites, a really cool kinky/stripper/trans store in Denver with wigs/shoes/jewelry/clothing/etc..

first...please share which side of town is this located on? only stores i know of are off colo. blvd and one somewhere off evans.

second, i am glad u posted ur positive experiences...and i stated in another post on this subject, i know it is not for everyone, but for those who like to indulge do so happily.  i have a pet who expressed his desires in panties/cross dressing/feminization and is currently going through "panties training" (if u will).

thx for sharing...



You are welcome!    Studio Lites is located at 333 North Broadway.  If you take 6th east from I-25 to Broadway and turn right, you run into it in a few blocks on the right side.


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RE: Men in Panties...A Positive Experience... - 2/24/2009 8:01:33 PM   
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Hi Otter,
 
Your experience sounds lovely.  My primary slave is a CD and we very much enjoy the whole process of shaving and grooming and dressing for a night out.  He is developing a classier wardrobe since we got together and shopping is great activity to share.  There are no clubs locally where he can go dressed but we have friends that host kink parties here and everyone compliments his outfits.  Sometimes we go out in public as a couple of girlfriends for dinner and a moive and unless he speaks no one is the wiser. 

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RE: Men in Panties...A Positive Experience... - 2/25/2009 7:55:08 AM   
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Let me say that in my view there are few things in this life more precious than being able to be your whole self.   A boy who feels femme inside...who feels submissive inside...a Lady who is willing to share in his expression of all sides of himself and revel in who and what he is without judgement...that gift is the most precious thing I will ever have in my life...

Miss Vendaval, Miss TammyJo, MsDDom...and all you other Ladies that enjoy us bishi boys, I salute you...I hope your boys do too... 

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Hi Otter,
 
Your experience sounds lovely.  My primary slave is a CD and we very much enjoy the whole process of shaving and grooming and dressing for a night out.  He is developing a classier wardrobe since we got together and shopping is great activity to share.  There are no clubs locally where he can go dressed but we have friends that host kink parties here and everyone compliments his outfits.  Sometimes we go out in public as a couple of girlfriends for dinner and a moive and unless he speaks no one is the wiser. 


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RE: Men in Panties...A Positive Experience... - 2/25/2009 8:51:05 AM   
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OttersSwim,

I have enjoyed your posts from out of the gate and this is yet another that just made my heart smile.  Thank you for sharing your experiences and showing what fun all this can and should be.

All I want to add is......5 Inch Heels!!!!!!  Oh my goodness, even I can't go there! 


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RE: Men in Panties...A Positive Experience... - 2/25/2009 9:14:20 AM   
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Otter what a grreat evening:) sounds like you had a wonderful time and I wish I could partake of a similar evening, (being LD sucks a LOT sometimes) But I do see something similar being organised in the future.
Yum yum thank you for sharing
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RE: Men in Panties...A Positive Experience... - 2/26/2009 2:38:54 AM   
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so its safe to say some Mistress do like some form of panty wearing and cding ?

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RE: Men in Panties...A Positive Experience... - 2/26/2009 8:34:38 AM   
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iwearpanties wrote: so its safe to say some Mistress do like some form of panty wearing and cding ?

It's safe to say that some Dommes like almost anything.

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RE: Men in Panties...A Positive Experience... - 2/26/2009 8:51:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OttersSwim

Miss Vendaval, Miss TammyJo, MsDDom...and all you other Ladies that enjoy us bishi boys, I salute you...I hope your boys do too... 



I can't accept your praise here.

What I liked about the partner I mentioned was that he wasn't submissive when he dressed in traditionally feminine clothing. In all honesty I'm turned off by cross-dressing when it is coupled with submissiveness and the idea of sissies myself.

Doesn't mean that I will treat people poorly but I wouldn't get involved with someone who needed that in a Ds relationship.

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RE: Men in Panties...A Positive Experience... - 2/26/2009 9:31:13 AM   
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Ah you know we are talking about semantics here TammyJo.  Point is, you were accepting of a transgendered person in your life.  That you do not want a femme male submissive is fine and is your right and choice.  No worries.  

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RE: Men in Panties...A Positive Experience... - 2/26/2009 7:17:02 PM   
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Otter, I'd be fine with an outing like you describe, and there are loads of options for that kind of thing local to me. I wouldn't necessarily want crossdressing as a major/frequent component, and definitely wouldn't enjoy a humiliation-based approach to it. Going shopping together or loaning him clothes that look cute, is fun, but I'd feel pretty non-sexual/non-D/s/non-BDSM about it;, more like doing the same thing with a female friend.

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RE: Men in Panties...A Positive Experience... - 2/27/2009 4:59:01 PM   
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WOW ! That is so great ! I would love to do something like that, but I am not that great looking when I Cross, except from the neck down. It looks great in the mirror, and I am happy with it.

You are so lucky to have a Lady like you have, and I wish you many more trips out. She knows how BORING and HARD men's clothes and shoes are. YUCK !

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