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DrkJourney -> RE: Dominating someone you aren't into (3/2/2009 10:55:23 AM)

I've given it the old college try, but I just can't get into it if I'm not into them.   I just can't do what I do casually.




MissEnchanted -> RE: Dominating someone you aren't into (3/3/2009 5:51:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

Strange question for me. I have certainly dished out a beating to men I was not "into", in the sense that I had no desire to have sex with them and didn't find them particularly sexually attractive. It was more out of a sense of playful camaraderie and fun than to scratch some "itch", per se.

I don't have a generalized, non-specific need to be sadistic. The urge to inflict physical pain is extremely specific to circumstances: either I want a masochist to enjoy himself/herself, or I want an enemy to suffer. There really isn't much in between.

That's how I feel. I have also developed much more affection over time with some that had no appeal for me in the beginning.




Sylverdawn -> RE: Dominating someone you aren't into (3/3/2009 9:16:52 AM)

it depends.. I have to enjoy the person in some way.. even if its only a friend and then yes.. if I dont like you then no.




MsAlaria -> RE: Dominating someone you aren't into (3/3/2009 6:05:12 PM)

I've tried it before but it leaves me feeling empty afterwards.  I have to have some type of connection or attraction, whether its mental, physical or something else.  




littlesarbonn -> RE: Dominating someone you aren't into (3/3/2009 6:43:12 PM)

I'd rather not be dominated by someone who's not that into me just as I'd probably not serve someone I wasn't into as well.




LadyJulieAnn -> RE: Dominating someone you aren't into (3/4/2009 10:19:16 AM)

Before I met my boy, I used to attend some small local events where I would top a couple of male subs, and one female, without any physical connection.  This was very different from my typical style, because I am very sexually charged when I play with my boy.  Most of my play with them was on the SM side, because they were masochists, so I fulfilled a different side of me, but I was always left with an empty feeling and feeling that I couldn't fully complete the scene as far as the physical connection (besides the hugs directly afterwards). 




EmpressOphira -> RE: Dominating someone you aren't into (3/4/2009 11:20:03 AM)

While the ideal scenario involves attraction and chemistry (as BDSM for me is like intense, elaborate, delicious foreplay), I do still get off on being entrusted with someone else's physical/emotional vulnerability. "You may only breathe/cum/scream/x... when I allow you to." :)




Steponme73 -> RE: Dominating someone you aren't into (3/4/2009 11:30:50 AM)

I would think getting your ass whipped or being dominated by someone who isn't attracted to you, would be like getting screwed by a prostitute while she is chewing gum and looking at her watch to see if the time was up yet.




ShaktiSama -> RE: Dominating someone you aren't into (3/4/2009 12:48:48 PM)

It's more like dancing than screwing, in my experience. Dancing can always be fun, even with the guy who isn't making your panties wet. It's just much more intense when you mean something by it.




LadyPact -> RE: Dominating someone you aren't into (3/4/2009 4:38:30 PM)

I've been meaning to come back to this thread.  Even thought Aakasha qualified her meaning in her post, I didn't do a very good job of a follow up. 

I looked at this question from a topping perspective, and to Me, topping is different than dominating.  Topping can stem from a lot of places.  They don't necessarily have to be sexual or anything based in  physical attraction.  When a top and bottom can play well together, even though there isn't anything more to it, a scene can be a really beautiful thing.

There's a gal that I get to play with in Atlanta from time to time.  She is an exquisite bottom for Me.  When we dance together, we never miss a beat.  The melody and the harmony mix in just the right way.  There's a quality about it that I can't describe.  While I consider her a friend, she isn't someone that I'm "into."  She just happens to be a great play partner.




MistressXahDee -> RE: Dominating someone you aren't into (3/4/2009 6:04:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
If you are a femdom type who dominates from a place of lust, need, craving - does going through the motions still scratch the itch? Do the "juices" start flowing once you get into the spirit, and it still ends up being rewarding?  Through the process of domination, can a man become something he was not for you - you find yourself attracted all of a sudden?

Another odd thing is that I have found there are some men that do not attract me on - on any chemistry level or physical level or lust level, per se, but they have a keen insight to my mind or are very intuitive, and they get a grasp on my femdom motivations enough that they can appeal to that side of me and push the right buttons.  But that's much more rare.

So how does physical attraction - or ANY kind of attraction - factor into your pleasure/satisfaction/feeing the "need" as a femdom?

Akasha



I have tried to play and did play with a couple people I had ZERO attraction toward. It was fun and it helped scratch the itch and that was it. OTOH, if I see a hot boy or girl and we play AND they have good reactions; well, that makes it smoking hot and right as rain. I have played enough times to figure out that I want to be lustful toward and have chemistry with my sub(s). If I am feeling hot toward a sub, it leads me into thinking about all the nice things I could do to them. As of now and since I am still new, I would have to say that in the future I do not see myself playing with someone I have no attraction toward.




EmpressOphira -> RE: Dominating someone you aren't into (3/5/2009 11:34:54 AM)

Hardly. What you described would be if I were not engaged in the scene at all. Also, in this arena, being able to withstand what I put my subs through is more dependent on how attracted they are to me, not so much the other way around.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Steponme73

I would think getting your ass whipped or being dominated by someone who isn't attracted to you, would be like getting screwed by a prostitute while she is chewing gum and looking at her watch to see if the time was up yet.




DelilahDeb -> RE: Dominating someone you aren't into (3/5/2009 5:37:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
I've been meaning to come back to this thread. Even thought Aakasha qualified her meaning in her post, I didn't do a very good job of a follow up.

I looked at this question from a topping perspective, and to Me, topping is different than dominating. Topping can stem from a lot of places. They don't necessarily have to be sexual or anything based in physical attraction. When a top and bottom can play well together, even though there isn't anything more to it, a scene can be a really beautiful thing.

There's a gal that I get to play with in Atlanta from time to time. She is an exquisite bottom for Me. When we dance together, we never miss a beat. The melody and the harmony mix in just the right way. There's a quality about it that I can't describe. While I consider her a friend, she isn't someone that I'm "into." She just happens to be a great play partner.



Lady P, you describe the effect very nicely. I was going to start my response with that distinction, because I have subs that I dominate, and bottoms that I top. Friendship is a part of either type of relationship, but I generally only dominate with subs that turn my crank, at least a little.

As for Akasha's original question, there are few situations in which I'll top someone who may be a cipher to me:

  • Someone I've only recently or rarely met asks for (say) a flogging, and I'm in the mood to flog someone. This sort of thing happens on occasion, and has led to a couple of budding friendships.
  • Someone asks me to demonstrate a technique or toy; as the other week when a couple heard that I'd brought my violet wand one night—I ended up demonstrating the various electrodes, a few techniques, and pleasing them both (I let her try a few passes on her greedy electro-slut). Lots of fun.
  • On exactly one occasion, I walked into a party absolutely fuming about a tenant I was having to evict. Steam was positively coming out of my ears. And I tossed out the comment that I was in the mood to find out just how hard I could throw a flogger—any takers? A little later, I was offered the chance to top an acquaintance who was a very heavy flogging bottom; her partner acted as monitor both to the bottom and to me (because I was stretching my own limits), and used the cathartic opportunity—once she was fully warmed up and I had her measure as well as my range in the place we were playing, and then when I moved up to the heavy strokes I used my own flogger, zeroed in on distance and target locations and let my outrage and frustration flow away through those fully released muscles and tendons and joints into the weight of my few dozen strokes. And without ever having played with her before, I got this acknowledged VERY heavy bottom giggling and unsteady on her pins. And by the time I was feeling the effects of my efforts physically, I had drained away all that toxic and useless stress into her trip to endorphin space. It's not something I want to do often, but I have only ever experienced that much unbridled rage about three times in my life. And I was very grateful to her; especially when I saw her a week later and she let me know (with a big grin) that she had had tiny tip bruises show up a couple of days later, distributed all over her back.

    In general, however, if I have tried playing with someone and not made an energetic connection, then I'm not going to repeat the experiment.

    Lady Delilah Deb




MistressGirl23 -> RE: Dominating someone you aren't into (3/5/2009 6:26:30 PM)

For me, I mainly need a sexual lust or attraction to bring to that "next" higher level of satisfaction.  Normally, I have to at least be attracted to them in an animalistic/phermone sense. You know, the man who walks in the room and you smell him (in a good way) and your heart starts doing cartwheels.
And, if the man can meet me on a intellectual level, which is unusual...it is all the more better too.
If I like you=I can beat you...lol. (nodding in agreeance with LaMistressa).
Well thought out post!!!




PeonForHer -> RE: Dominating someone you aren't into (3/5/2009 6:47:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn

I'd rather not be dominated by someone who's not that into me just as I'd probably not serve someone I wasn't into as well.


Likewise, though I'd omit the "probably" . . .




littlesarbonn -> RE: Dominating someone you aren't into (3/5/2009 6:54:37 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

quote:

ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn

I'd rather not be dominated by someone who's not that into me just as I'd probably not serve someone I wasn't into as well.


Likewise, though I'd omit the "probably" . . .


Well, I didn't want to rule out the possibility that there might be an uprising of women in the world where they take over and I end up getting enslaved by some woman who wasn't really into me.




One can dream, can't one?




Vendaval -> RE: Dominating someone you aren't into (3/5/2009 7:18:50 PM)

[:D]  Ever hear of a movie called - 
 
The Surplus Male And The Amazon Women From Outer Space

www.amazon.com/Surplus-Amazon-Women-Outer-Space/dp/B0007N46UU




PeonForHer -> RE: Dominating someone you aren't into (3/5/2009 7:59:28 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn

quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

quote:

ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn

I'd rather not be dominated by someone who's not that into me just as I'd probably not serve someone I wasn't into as well.


Likewise, though I'd omit the "probably" . . .


Well, I didn't want to rule out the possibility that there might be an uprising of women in the world where they take over and I end up getting enslaved by some woman who wasn't really into me.




One can dream, can't one?



[;)]  Damnit, I wish I could arrange the scripts of my dreams. 




PeonForHer -> RE: Dominating someone you aren't into (3/5/2009 8:14:34 PM)

The Surplus Male And The Amazon Women From Outer Space
 
. . . . It's got Lt Worf from Star Trek in it.  A male Klingon being dominated by women?  Tut - what is the universe coming to? [:D]




Vendaval -> RE: Dominating someone you aren't into (3/6/2009 3:06:46 AM)

Lots of ladies here lust for Worf!  Roll on over to polls and random stupidity sometime.  [8D]




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