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Lets say you have a well-publicized rule against first-date sex.

You know, that's a really good suggestion, Noah. sissy Has that very same rule posted in all the buildings of his apartment complex, and also on the walls of the county court house. Geez, now if only lola could get a date ?!!

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This sound childish to me, on the grounds IrishMist goes on to state. I think adults should make decisions based on the facts actually presented, not ahead of time based on abstractions and arbitrary rules. But I respect your right to your personal rules and I don't conclude that you are childish person.

Well, Noah, your whole post sounds ludicrous to this sissy. But I respect your right to be ludicrous and so sissy really hasn't concluded that you are ludicrous person!

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Maybe even probing a little.

Oh boy ... sissy just loves to be probed on a first date! But dating aliens comes with a whole new set of inter-galactic risks so you have to be vewy, vewy careful ...

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Someone out there may be looking for a girl like that.

Hey, this sissy IS looking for a gal like that ... better someone with integrity and honesty than someone who really wants to be gang-banged on their first date but tells you they are a nun!

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... there is pushing and there is pushing.

And there's bull-dozing and there's charming my frilly pants off. And of course there's phucking. Don't forget the phucking. Personally, that's one of sissy's favorites ... if push ever comes to shove!

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Sometimes when a person sets a limit they very much mean "for now, and I'm not sure when, if ever, it may change--but I'd like to find a person who could help me navigate this territory."

Yes, but it doesn't mean ... "--but I'd like to find a person who could help me navigate this territory within the hour, you sweet talking mother!"

sissy maid lola





< Message edited by sissymaidlola -- 1/22/2006 5:17:34 PM >

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If i don't seem submissive to You, it may be because i'm NOT submissive to You.

(in reply to Noah)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

In talking with a Dominant friend he related to me that he often feels like submissives expect him to be a mind reader. He said that he feels as though he has to sort through their words to try to determine what they are actually meaning.

And for the Dominants....is this an issue that you encounter? Do you view submissives as being less than submissive if they are clear in their definitions of limits and boundaries....provided that they are appropriate to the time/depth of the relationship? How do you personally sort through the words to get at the meaning behind them?

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

For me my boundaries are very clear. I don't have soft limits and I don't have boundaries with movable lines. I really am trying to understand your perspective but I don't understand calling something a limit if it is really not a limit. I can see where this would cause confusion. How would the Dominant know if he pushed past the "real" limit as opposed to just pushing past the one that was negotiable?

Why not just say...that is something I have never tried....but I am open to it?

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submissives say that they are uncomfortable in defining these things for fear of being viewed as less than submissive.
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So to the submissives....are you afraid to define clear boundaries or limits for fear of being viewed as less than submissive?