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xBullx -> RE: Remember when Obama said he wouldn't come after people's guns? (3/2/2009 11:38:59 AM)
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ORIGINAL: DomKen
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ORIGINAL: xBullx
<delete long winded chest thumping and personal attacks>
So when the outside forces aren't open to wiping away (censoring) your opposition, you simply resort to the dismissal of another man's creative substance as chest thumping and long winded. You are at least predictable.
I supported my position with personal substance and you seemingly found it too steep a challenge, though it is doubtful you'll admit as much. Your ego and character has been established long before our encounter here. I challenged your point, you are unable or unwilling to respond, not all that surprising though.
Your insecurities have exposed your character. But let's go over your rhetoric.
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You seem to misunderstand realism with acceptance.
You're brand of realism you mean. I rather doubt that simply because you feel your idealism to be the truth we all see it as such.
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If the US Army ever does move against the US population I won't be talking about how to resist them, I'll be out there doing it. I won't be toting a rifle to do it however.
Talk about chest thumping!!! So you plan to resist an ARMY (Armies are seldom impressed with diplomacy or political rhetoric) with nothing but your mouth? Interesting... Perhaps since I value your sense of history and your opposing perspective I might be inspired to rescue you from the gallows. But don't count on it; I'll be rather busy doing the fighting your position wouldn't man up too.
Concurrently the US Army would doubtfully ever willingly attack the US Citizenry without sufficient provocation. You know, like in a case where the Military is brought in to thwart civil unrest and the way right or way left loons actually attack them and promote angst. I assure you that if anyone actually did have a plan to "take over" they have consider this and I doubt that men speaking on a platform (I assume this is how you plan to stop the Army) are as much of an obstacle to the tyrannical plans of a corrupt CINC as the man that has quietly lived and prepared for anything.
I trust you realize what chest thumping actually is? While you dismiss my perspective I clearly have found yours comedic. And rather than ignoring your comments I have spoken to them. However since you were politically wise enough to not be overly committal in your statements I am sure you have left yourself an out. You may execute it now.
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You trot out Iraq and fail to get the salient point about the Iraqi insurgency, firearms have done those insurgents no good. It's not rifles or machine guns that are making things hard for the occupation forces. Whenever it has turned into a direct gun battle, Mosul for instance, the occupiers won and won decisively.
I made no such mention of Iraq. Come now, you're usually better with facts than this.
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What has worked is harassment and IED's. Want to bet the guys planting IED's don't carry assault rifles while doing so? They want to be as inconspicuous as possible. The various resistance movements in Europe during WWII certainly resisted without widespread possesion or use of firearms. The loudmouth waving his weapon and shooting at occupation troops makes a good distraction but is otherwise a counterproductive tactic.
Ahhh, so now you do want to discuss military strategy and tactics. But you aren't going to equip yourself as completely as possible? I suppose that you believe that this insurgent that would plant an IED wouldn't have a rifle anywhere at all, no hand grenades, no RPG's, no captured materials?
IED’s are implements of harassment / guerilla warfare (this had simply better be a designed stage of your overall strategy or you doomed in a breath), you had better have a more extensive plan than to simply harass an Army into submission, I assure you that if push came to shove my rifle is simply a means to other means that will secure my desired end result. But back to your comments on stategy, a dog will eventually scratch all his fleas if give ample opportunity. And I assure you that simple harassemnt will not lead to mutually respected diplomacy. No bargian will ever be secured from a position of weakness.
And yes diplomacy or overall capitulation is the only way to the end game.
Well good luck with your American Insurgency, I hope you don't mind if it became necessary to do so, I went out to seek a bit more accomplished strategist and tactician to lead the rebellion.
By the way, you never addressed the reason I find it most important to maintain my arms supplies, survival supplies and such. But then survival preparedness is a point that is hard to combat, even with dismissive and or contorted logic.
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