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thetammyjo -> RE: E-Books take away some of the mystique? (3/3/2009 2:03:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cjan

I've been thinking about getting a Kindle. The only thing that gives me pause is this .

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/25/opinion/25blount.html?_r=1&scp=3&sq=kindle&st=cse



Yeah as an author and a person who believes in intellectual and creative property rights this concerns me as well.



BitaTruble -> RE: E-Books take away some of the mystique? (3/3/2009 2:04:35 PM)

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I am probably going to get kicked out of the Star Trek Geek Continum for this, but I do not like e-books. You can´t smell them and a new book smells incredible to me, you can crease the pages of your favorite book until it´s so dog-eared the pages actually start to fall out, you can´t mark up e-books with high-lighters or write little notes on the side so that when your kids or grandkids read it years later they will know what you were thinking and feeling when you read a certain passage. There are just certain actions with a real book you don´t get in an e-book.. like wetting your finger tip to turn the page or flip back several pages in just a few seconds to reread something that a passage reminded you of or that first time you open the book and crack the spine back so that the book will lay flat. For me, books are warm and comforting, familiar, prized and cherished. I will pass on e-books and hope that saying "print is dead" remains forever false.



thetammyjo -> RE: E-Books take away some of the mystique? (3/3/2009 2:06:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: littlesarbonn

I use kindle to sell one of my mainstream science fiction novels. The company that originally published it set the paperback book price way too high, but I had not given up electronic rights, so I was able to sell it through kindle. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people are offset by the high price of the kindle itself, so not a lot of people buy into it. But people buy the book steadily, so that's a positive thing.

I haven't put any of my bdsm novels up on kindle yet, mainly because I was testing kindle out with a vanilla title first. One of these days, when I get some free time, I'll probably put one of the bdsm ones up there just to see how it sells. The problem is that my bdsm novels are written under a different name, and amazon loves to link names together, which they tried to do with one of the bdsm novels as well, which made a lot of questions I didn't really want to answer to people who were fans of the vanilla fiction.



littlesarbonn, could you send me a note and let me know how you did this as a author?



slaveluci -> RE: E-Books take away some of the mystique? (3/3/2009 5:40:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble
I am probably going to get kicked out of the Star Trek Geek Continum for this, but I do not like e-books. You can´t smell them and a new book smells incredible to me, you can crease the pages of your favorite book until it´s so dog-eared the pages actually start to fall out, you can´t mark up e-books with high-lighters or write little notes on the side so that when your kids or grandkids read it years later they will know what you were thinking and feeling when you read a certain passage. There are just certain actions with a real book you don´t get in an e-book.. like wetting your finger tip to turn the page or flip back several pages in just a few seconds to reread something that a passage reminded you of or that first time you open the book and crack the spine back so that the book will lay flat. For me, books are warm and comforting, familiar, prized and cherished. I will pass on e-books and hope that saying "print is dead" remains forever false.

I totally agree with all the great things you've said about books here.  I feel the same way.  It's odd that I have become so "into" my Kindle because I have never liked audio books.  I like holding the books and reading them myself. 

What drew me to it so much is the fact that it can hold so many books at once.  I hate to be without a book when I have to wait any length of time anywhere.  Somehow, it is so comforting to know I can now carry 700 of the lovely little things around in my purse via my Kindle.  Whatever mood I'm in, I've got the book to fit it.  I would never want to see books go the way of the dodo - for personal and professional reasons (I'm a librarian[:)]).  I just see the Kindle as a way to enhance and supplement, not replace.................luci



variation30 -> RE: E-Books take away some of the mystique? (3/3/2009 6:03:21 PM)

meh. I listened to "The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress" on audio book. it was not cheapened.



camille65 -> RE: E-Books take away some of the mystique? (3/4/2009 12:38:57 PM)

I happened across this article today, giving an interesting glimpse of Kindle, its kin and some of what is happening within the publishing industry. As someone that worked in a bookstore for 15 years, much of what I read here disturbed me. Not the move towards ebooks but more the dwindling power of what was once a strong and influential industry.

http://tbm.thebigmoney.com/articles/saga/2009/03/04/kindle-revolution

"Theoretically, the Kindle will give writers greater access to the public. Some of contemporary publishing's biggest success stories are self-propelled sensations. The Secret and the Twilight series were self-published works that became independent industries. A publishing house played no role in their initial success."
"With enough Kindles in the hands of tastemaking, trendsetting readers, publishers won't really need many editors or marketers. They'll acquire the right to print and distribute books on the basis of already established success. Think of the Kindle as brute force focus group or a 21st-century version of opening in New Haven."


The dropping of editors, marketers and reviewers are at the crux of my disturbance. On one hand it's great that people can get published in a much easier way than ever before, the other hand holds a lessening of standards for the finished product.

Does that mean that the standards 'for a good book' will fall?
I hope not.



antipode -> RE: E-Books take away some of the mystique? (3/4/2009 1:14:37 PM)

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A friend heard this and was taken aback that I would cheapen them by reading them in this format.


I have gotten rid of my entire library, over the past three years - more than 10,000 books. Their day is done. I told Amazon what is wrong with the Kindle, though - it uses the stupid Sprint network, CDMA. If they had a GSM version, so I could use it worldwide, I'd own one by now.



feydeplume -> RE: E-Books take away some of the mystique? (3/4/2009 2:39:20 PM)

That all depends on out definition of "good". It definitely means that popular literature will be based even more firmly in the hands of the populous, if popularity means good then it will offer a larger selection of books for people to choose from and to "vote" good with their dollars.  How will it play out for Literature? Probably the same as it has for centuries. "Great" books are great books and get read and re-read and taught at schools and that is an ever evolving list of books.

What is would guess is that there will be a move to more blatant and frequent sex in the "new" books. Sex sells AND it is something that publishers tend to weed out of the final edition. Will that make a book lesser because the smut is still in it? I think not, but i do imagine that a secondary rating system will start to develop soon.



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